Re: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article ,
 "Spain, Dr. Jeffry A."  wrote:

> Rather than running multiple bind instances on one server, is virtualization 
> an option for you? Thus you could build multiple virtual machines each 
> running a single bind instance.

Seems like overkill if BIND is the only thing you're running on one of 
the instances, since each VM will have to run the full OS and background 
processes.

But if you want to have a general testbed, it seems like a good fit.

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Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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RE: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-25 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
>> I need to understand the difference between configuring bind views and 
>> having multiple instances of bind. I have 5 network interfaces on my 
>> server and I want to have 2 instances of DNS server (just for testing) 
>> and I don't know which one to do ?

> BIND views are powerful, but configuring them can become complex.

> If your machine has the resources for doing so, I'd recommend running 
> multiple instances of BIND, which will enable you to stop/start your 
> test-instances at will.  Furthermore you'll probably find configuration of 
> individual BIND name servers easier to create and manage. On the down-side 
> you'll need monitoring for the N instances, you'll probably have N logs, etc.

> Knowing what I do from your description, I would chose the N instances.

Rather than running multiple bind instances on one server, is virtualization an 
option for you? Thus you could build multiple virtual machines each running a 
single bind instance.

Jeffry A. Spain
Network Administrator
Cincinnati Country Day School

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Re: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-24 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
> I need to understand the difference between configuring bind views and
> having multiple instances of bind. I have 5 network interfaces on my server
> and I want to have 2 instances of DNS server (just for testing) and I don't
> know which one to do ?

BIND views are powerful, but configuring them can become complex.

If your machine has the resources for doing so, I'd recommend running
multiple instances of BIND, which will enable you to stop/start your
test-instances at will.  Furthermore you'll probably find configuration
of individual BIND name servers easier to create and manage. On the
down-side you'll need monitoring for the N instances, you'll probably
have N logs, etc.

Knowing what I do from your description, I would chose the N instances.

-JP
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Re: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-24 Thread Barry Margolin
In article ,
 Mike Hoskins  wrote:

> the other thing is if your testing needs to stop/start named for some
> reason, it might be less impactful to run separate instances.  however, if
> you run 'rndc' you will see that many of the commands can be ran in a
> manner that only affects specified views.

Even if you don't have to stop the server, you might want to run 
separate instances so that there's less danger of breaking the 
named.conf used by the production server during testing.

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Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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Re: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-24 Thread Mike Hoskins
-Original Message-
From: Amira Othman 
Date: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:04 AM
To: 
Subject: different between views and having multiple instances

>Hi all
>
>I need to understand the difference between configuring bind views and
>having multiple instances of bind. I have 5 network interfaces on my
>server
>and I want to have 2 instances of DNS server (just for testing) and I
>don't
>know which one to do ?

i'm sure others will chime in with additional detail, but i think it's
largely a matter of your needs and level of paranoia.  if you are
separating authoritative and caching functions, do you trust software to
institute that policy or do you want to have physical segregation?

i use views extensively now, and haven't had any issues...  but have gone
the physical route in the past (particularly before views existed).
however, when i did that i actually had entirely different servers on
disparate networks hosting the internal and external instances of bind.

the other thing is if your testing needs to stop/start named for some
reason, it might be less impactful to run separate instances.  however, if
you run 'rndc' you will see that many of the commands can be ran in a
manner that only affects specified views.

historically there were also performance considerations, but i think those
are mostly moot with all the tuning in recent releases.

if it's all on one server, views probably make sense...


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Re: different between views and having multiple instances

2012-05-24 Thread John Williams
In theory, you would use views to serve up different data to subnets.  For 
example, you may want to show your internal clients one set of IP addresses 
while the external world see's a subset of that data.  That is a perfect 
utilization of views.

You may want to setup different instances of BIND if you have different 
configuration requirements, or if you want different zones to be served on 
different IP addresses.

Hope that helps.




 From: Amira Othman 
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: different between views and having multiple instances
 
Hi all

I need to understand the difference between configuring bind views and
having multiple instances of bind. I have 5 network interfaces on my server
and I want to have 2 instances of DNS server (just for testing) and I don't
know which one to do ?

thanks

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