Re: SERVFAIL from validating nameservers for advocaat.pro advocaten.pro

2009-02-07 Thread Chris Thompson

On Feb 6 2009, Mark Andrews wrote:

In message prayer.1.3.1.0902051754210.4...@hermes-2.csi.cam.ac.uk, 
Chris Thompson writes:

[...]

More info about the not consistently bit. With nothing about
them in the cache (rndc flushname advocaat.pro) looking up SOA or
NS records for them gives SERVFAIL. But looking up A records does
not, and after that SOA and NS lookups work OK as well.

Hmmm...


The TLD lies.  DNSSEC is doing exactly what it is
supposed to do and is blocking ibad answers.

Mark

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1  advocaat.pro soa @c.gtld.pro +dnssec
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29667
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;advocaat.pro.  IN  SOA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pro.			14400	IN	SOA	a.gtld.pro. 
hostmaster.registrypro.pro. 2009020518 28800 7200 604800 300


Ah, yes -- many thanks for the elucidation.

Indeed, looking up SOA for advocaat.pro via a non-validating nameserver
(without it having already discovered the NS records for it) believes
this crap and reports it back to the caller.

The nameservers for pro seem to have some very odd bugs:

* asked about the SOA for a sub-zone, they authoritatively deny its 
   existence, as above.

* asked about NS records for a sub-zone, they return the delegation
   set as the _answer_. That's also true of the *.gtld-servers.net lot,
   but these are worse, because unlike them they claim the answer is
   authoritative.
* even when they do give a referral, it is marked authoritative.

One hardly dares to ask how they achieve all this ...

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Re: SERVFAIL from validating nameservers for advocaat.pro advocaten.pro

2009-02-05 Thread Chris Thompson

On Feb 5 2009, I wrote:


DLV records for advocaat.pro  advocaten.pro are among the recent
additions to dlv.isc.org. Using validating recursive nameservers
running BIND 9.5.1-P1 (configured to trust dlv.isc.org), I get SERVFAILs
looking things up in them, although not consistently. This doesn't
happen with non-validating nameservers.

I can't work out what is wrong with them. Does anyone else see the
same effect?


More info about the not consistently bit. With nothing about
them in the cache (rndc flushname advocaat.pro) looking up SOA or
NS records for them gives SERVFAIL. But looking up A records does
not, and after that SOA and NS lookups work OK as well.

Hmmm...

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Re: SERVFAIL from validating nameservers for advocaat.pro advocaten.pro

2009-02-05 Thread Mark Andrews

In message prayer.1.3.1.0902051754210.4...@hermes-2.csi.cam.ac.uk, Chris 
Thompson writes:
 On Feb 5 2009, I wrote:
 
 DLV records for advocaat.pro  advocaten.pro are among the recent
additions to dlv.isc.org. Using validating recursive nameservers
 running BIND 9.5.1-P1 (configured to trust dlv.isc.org), I get SERVFAILs
 looking things up in them, although not consistently. This doesn't
 happen with non-validating nameservers.
 
 I can't work out what is wrong with them. Does anyone else see the
 same effect?
 
 More info about the not consistently bit. With nothing about
 them in the cache (rndc flushname advocaat.pro) looking up SOA or
 NS records for them gives SERVFAIL. But looking up A records does
 not, and after that SOA and NS lookups work OK as well.
 
 Hmmm...

The TLD lies.  DNSSEC is doing exactly what it is
supposed to do and is blocking ibad answers.

Mark

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1  advocaat.pro soa @c.gtld.pro +dnssec
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29667
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;advocaat.pro.  IN  SOA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pro.14400   IN  SOA a.gtld.pro. 
hostmaster.registrypro.pro. 2009020518 28800 7200 604800 300

;; Query time: 186 msec
;; SERVER: 192.149.64.10#53(192.149.64.10)
;; WHEN: Fri Feb  6 11:45:31 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 96

 
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