Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 01/20/2014 11:21 AM, Jim Pazarena wrote:

Thank you for this. I am familiar with the setup; I suppose that my
question was unclear.

Can the SAME named.conf handle BOTH the /24 cname assignments AND
the /25 in-addr.arpa records.

Which sounds like a dumb question, but I thought named may not like it.
But I'll set it up and see if named complains (if at all).


On 20.01.14 14:47, Doug Barton wrote:
There's no reason named cannot do it, but the question is why would 
you want to? It would make sense to split the zone into /25s if you 
were going to delegate them to your customers, but if you're going to 
host it all on the same server you get a lot of extra complexity for 
no real benefit.


he apparently wants to be a slave for those /25's so they work when any of
primaries fail.

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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread Doug Barton

On 01/20/2014 11:21 AM, Jim Pazarena wrote:

Thank you for this. I am familiar with the setup; I suppose that my
question was unclear.

Can the SAME named.conf handle BOTH the /24 cname assignments AND
the /25 in-addr.arpa records.

Which sounds like a dumb question, but I thought named may not like it.
But I'll set it up and see if named complains (if at all).


There's no reason named cannot do it, but the question is why would you 
want to? It would make sense to split the zone into /25s if you were 
going to delegate them to your customers, but if you're going to host it 
all on the same server you get a lot of extra complexity for no real 
benefit.


You may get some useful information at 
https://dougbarton.us/DNS/2317.html in any case.


Doug
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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread Barry Margolin
In article ,
 Jim Pazarena  wrote:

> Thank you for this. I am familiar with the setup; I suppose that my 
> question was unclear.
> 
> Can the SAME named.conf handle BOTH the /24 cname assignments AND
> the /25 in-addr.arpa records.
> 
> Which sounds like a dumb question, but I thought named may not like it.
> But I'll set it up and see if named complains (if at all).

Of course it should work. It's just a subdomain delegation and a CNAME.  
There's no reason a subzone can't be hosted on the same server as the 
parent zone. There's nothing special about reverse zones as far as BIND 
is concerned.

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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread johnh
Let us know how that goes - never tried it, but it seems like it would 
work - it's just going to trigger a lookup to itself for the other zone 
I'd say.

-John




From:   Jim Pazarena 
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Date:   01/20/2014 02:21 PM
Subject:    Re: classless ptr setup
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Thank you for this. I am familiar with the setup; I suppose that my 
question was unclear.

Can the SAME named.conf handle BOTH the /24 cname assignments AND
the /25 in-addr.arpa records.

Which sounds like a dumb question, but I thought named may not like it.
But I'll set it up and see if named complains (if at all).

Thanks again.


On 2014-01-20 11:00 AM, jo...@primebuchholz.com wrote:
> In your zone file for the class c (x.y.z), you'd create a delegation 
like
> this in the zone file:
>
> ; For 0-127
> 0/25 NS   some.server.
> 0/25 NS   some.other.server.
> 1   CNAME   1.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
> 2   CNAME   2.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
> ...
> ; For 128 on...
> 128/25   NS  some.server.
> 128/25   NS   some.other.server.
> 129   CNAME   129.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
> 130   CNAME   130.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
> ...
>
> ...then the servers you delegated to have this:
>
> named.conf:
>
> zone "0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa" {
> ...
> ...
> }
>
> ...and in the zone file:
>
> 1   PTR   some.host.
> ...
>
> as normal.
>
> HTH,
>
> -John
>
>
>
>
> From:   Jim Pazarena 
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Date:   01/20/2014 01:43 PM
> Subject:classless ptr setup
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>
>
>
> I have a full /24, which I would like to separate into two /25's, and
> assign each half to two of my customers. The snag is that *I* maintain
> the DNS for each of these customers.
>
> Is it possible to create the classless setup within my system so that it
> starts with the /24 but can assign the two classless /25's ?
>
> If so, I am stumped on the setup. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread Jim Pazarena
Thank you for this. I am familiar with the setup; I suppose that my 
question was unclear.


Can the SAME named.conf handle BOTH the /24 cname assignments AND
the /25 in-addr.arpa records.

Which sounds like a dumb question, but I thought named may not like it.
But I'll set it up and see if named complains (if at all).

Thanks again.


On 2014-01-20 11:00 AM, jo...@primebuchholz.com wrote:

In your zone file for the class c (x.y.z), you'd create a delegation like
this in the zone file:

; For 0-127
0/25 NS   some.server.
0/25 NS   some.other.server.
1   CNAME   1.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
2   CNAME   2.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
...
; For 128 on...
128/25   NS  some.server.
128/25   NS   some.other.server.
129   CNAME   129.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
130   CNAME   130.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
...

...then the servers you delegated to have this:

named.conf:

zone "0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa" {
...
...
}

...and in the zone file:

1   PTR   some.host.
...

as normal.

HTH,

-John




From:   Jim Pazarena 
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Date:   01/20/2014 01:43 PM
Subject:    classless ptr setup
Sent by:bind-users-bounces+johnh=primebuchholz@lists.isc.org



I have a full /24, which I would like to separate into two /25's, and
assign each half to two of my customers. The snag is that *I* maintain
the DNS for each of these customers.

Is it possible to create the classless setup within my system so that it
starts with the /24 but can assign the two classless /25's ?

If so, I am stumped on the setup. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread johnh
In your zone file for the class c (x.y.z), you'd create a delegation like 
this in the zone file:

; For 0-127
0/25 NS   some.server.
0/25 NS   some.other.server.
1   CNAME   1.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
2   CNAME   2.0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
...
; For 128 on...
128/25   NS  some.server.
128/25   NS   some.other.server.
129   CNAME   129.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
130   CNAME   130.128/25.z.x.y.in-addr.arpa.
...

...then the servers you delegated to have this:

named.conf:

zone "0/25.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa" {
...
...
}

...and in the zone file:

1   PTR   some.host.
...

as normal.

HTH,

-John




From:   Jim Pazarena 
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Date:   01/20/2014 01:43 PM
Subject:        classless ptr setup
Sent by:bind-users-bounces+johnh=primebuchholz@lists.isc.org



I have a full /24, which I would like to separate into two /25's, and
assign each half to two of my customers. The snag is that *I* maintain
the DNS for each of these customers.

Is it possible to create the classless setup within my system so that it
starts with the /24 but can assign the two classless /25's ?

If so, I am stumped on the setup. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi--

On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Jim Pazarena  wrote:
> I have a full /24, which I would like to separate into two /25's, and
> assign each half to two of my customers. The snag is that *I* maintain
> the DNS for each of these customers.
> 
> Is it possible to create the classless setup within my system so that it
> starts with the /24 but can assign the two classless /25's ?

Start by reading:

  http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt

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classless ptr setup

2014-01-20 Thread Jim Pazarena

I have a full /24, which I would like to separate into two /25's, and
assign each half to two of my customers. The snag is that *I* maintain
the DNS for each of these customers.

Is it possible to create the classless setup within my system so that it
starts with the /24 but can assign the two classless /25's ?

If so, I am stumped on the setup. Any help would be appreciated.
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