Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-16 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:21:14AM +0200, Marco Davids (SIDN) wrote:
...
> Or do it 'the BIND way':
> 
>  dig  -x 2001:7b8:c05::80:1 | grep ip6.arpa | tail -1 | awk '{print $1}'
...

If things work right, this seems to give the name of the smallest
existing enclosing zone (from the SOA or NS record), not the entry in
the zone.  Wasn't the latter what was desired?  And what if you are
creating the new zone?

As 'arpaname' given the above, returns:

1.0.0.0.0.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.5.0.C.0.8.B.7.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA

then the entry

1.0.0.0.0.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 PTR sidn.bip.bit.nl.

in the 5.0.c.0.8.b.7.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. zone file
("zone.2001:07b8:0c05"?) may be the best we can do in general.

In specific, we could enter:

$ORIGIN 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0
1.0.0.0.0.8.0.0 PTR sidn.bip.bit.nl.
...
$ORIGIN 5.0.c.0.8.b.7.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
if we have multiple addresses in that subnet.

But M. de Nostredame already is aware of how to do this.

Using one of the existing IPAM (IP Address Management) appliances might
be what you need.  BT has one that looked good.


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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-15 Thread Shumon Huque
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:56:00AM -0400, John Wobus wrote:
> >pint> use Net::IP
> >pint> $foo = new Net::IP '2001:db8::42'
> >3
> >pint> $foo->reverse_ip()
> >2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.d. 
> >0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
> >pint>
> 
> Or you could just dash off the simple perl expression to do the job:
> 
> my $ptr = do {
> my($head,$tail) =
>   map { join '', map { sprintf '%04s',$_; } split /:/,$_; }
>   split /::/, $addr  . '::', 3;
> my $hex32 = '0' x 32;
> substr( $hex32, 0, length($head) ) = $head;
> substr( $hex32, 32, -length($tail) ) =  $tail;
> join '.', ( reverse split //, $hex32 ), 'ip6.arpa';
> };
> 

In case Pythonistas feel neglected, here's my contribution:

- Cut here --

#!/usr/bin/env python
#

import sys, socket

def ip6toptr(address):
"""return PTR owner name of an IPv6 address"""
try:
packed = socket.inet_pton(socket.AF_INET6, address)
except socket.error:
raise ValueError("%s isn't an IPv6 address" % address)   
hexstring = ''.join(["%02x" % ord(x) for x in packed])
ptrowner = "%s.ip6.arpa" % \
   '.'.join([x for x in hexstring[::-1]])
return ptrowner

if __name__ == '__main__':
print ip6toptr(sys.argv[1])

- Cut here --

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-15 Thread John Wobus

pint> use Net::IP
pint> $foo = new Net::IP '2001:db8::42'
3
pint> $foo->reverse_ip()
2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.d. 
0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.

pint>


Or you could just dash off the simple perl expression to do the job:

my $ptr = do {
my($head,$tail) =
  map { join '', map { sprintf '%04s',$_; } split /:/,$_; }
  split /::/, $addr  . '::', 3;
my $hex32 = '0' x 32;
substr( $hex32, 0, length($head) ) = $head;
substr( $hex32, 32, -length($tail) ) =  $tail;
join '.', ( reverse split //, $hex32 ), 'ip6.arpa';
};


John
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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-13 Thread Alan Clegg
On 4/13/2011 6:58 PM, Michel de Nostredame wrote:

> Not sure how large will be the effort to add a new directive into
> BIND, but that just a feed back, and wish, from me and my team
> members, who needs to maintain few hundreds of statically assigned IPs
> for servers and CE/PE routers.

Dynamic zones and the judicious use of "arpaname" seems like the best
bet to me (without adding extra code to BIND, that is).

AlanC



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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-13 Thread Bill Larson

On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Michel de Nostredame wrote:

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Niall O'Reilly  
 wrote:

On 12 Apr 2011, at 10:49, Michel de Nostredame wrote:

Thanks Walter and Marco. Those two tool/method do resolve short term
needs. Thanks again.
(btw, the URL form Walter should be
ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/IPv6/ipv6calc/ )

Beside them, is any potential possibility to have something build-in
in BIND config/zone file as kind of beautiful (my, and my team,
personal point of view) solution?

Anyone knows if there was any similar discussions inside BIND
developer group before?


   Not that I recall.

   I'm not sure what benefit you see in adding a feature to
   the BIND server and tools.  I should have thought that a
   suitable script, either for provisioning your zone file(s)
   or for applying a dynamic update, would both relieve any
   burden you currently have, and leave you more flexibility
   than would an extension to BIND.


If there is $REVERSE (or some similar directive) can put inside ZONE
file and named.conf file, then it would be a good help for those
people who need to manually manage PTR records. From regular people
point of view, it could be easier to read, maintain and less possible
of human errors.

Not sure how large will be the effort to add a new directive into
BIND, but that just a feed back, and wish, from me and my team
members, who needs to maintain few hundreds of statically assigned IPs
for servers and CE/PE routers.


Back in the good old days, when DNS administrators didn't have fancy  
tools, there was a common solution to this problem.


I wrote a little script which took a host name and an IP address  
(IPv4, but the idea would be the same for IPv6) and generated the  
forward DNS "A" record for this and append it, or insert it, into the  
forward zone file.  Then, this same script would then take this same  
information and add the appropriate "PTR" into the appropriate reverse  
zone file.  The "h2n" script was another tool commonly used to manage  
DNS information from the contents of the /etc/hosts file.


The problem with introducing some new directive into BIND is that your  
idea of what would be the appropriate zones files to work with may not  
be the same as someone else.  For example, in the forward zone, would  
assigning MX records be the "correct" result also?  There are too many  
possibilities to allow solving everyone's needs.  This is something  
that needs to be done by the DNS administrator who understands the  
needs of the zone.  (At least in my very humble opinion).


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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-13 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Niall O'Reilly  wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2011, at 10:49, Michel de Nostredame wrote:
>> Thanks Walter and Marco. Those two tool/method do resolve short term
>> needs. Thanks again.
>> (btw, the URL form Walter should be
>> ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/IPv6/ipv6calc/ )
>>
>> Beside them, is any potential possibility to have something build-in
>> in BIND config/zone file as kind of beautiful (my, and my team,
>> personal point of view) solution?
>>
>> Anyone knows if there was any similar discussions inside BIND
>> developer group before?
>
>        Not that I recall.
>
>        I'm not sure what benefit you see in adding a feature to
>        the BIND server and tools.  I should have thought that a
>        suitable script, either for provisioning your zone file(s)
>        or for applying a dynamic update, would both relieve any
>        burden you currently have, and leave you more flexibility
>        than would an extension to BIND.

If there is $REVERSE (or some similar directive) can put inside ZONE
file and named.conf file, then it would be a good help for those
people who need to manually manage PTR records. From regular people
point of view, it could be easier to read, maintain and less possible
of human errors.

Not sure how large will be the effort to add a new directive into
BIND, but that just a feed back, and wish, from me and my team
members, who needs to maintain few hundreds of statically assigned IPs
for servers and CE/PE routers.

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Chris Thompson

On Apr 12 2011, Marco Davids (SIDN) wrote:


On 04/12/11 10:50, walter.jontofs...@t-systems.com wrote:


you could use ipv6calc (ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/ipv6/ipv6calc) to 
calculate the reverse strings.


Yes.

Or do it 'the BIND way':

dig  -x 2001:7b8:c05::80:1 | grep ip6.arpa | tail -1 | awk '{print $1}'


Oh, yuck. There is a perfectly good program shipped with BIND to do this:

$ type arpaname
arpaname is /usr/local/sbin/arpaname

$ arpaname 2001:7b8:c05::80:1
1.0.0.0.0.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.5.0.C.0.8.B.7.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Niall O'Reilly

On 12 Apr 2011, at 10:49, Michel de Nostredame wrote:

> Thanks Walter and Marco. Those two tool/method do resolve short term
> needs. Thanks again.
> (btw, the URL form Walter should be
> ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/IPv6/ipv6calc/ )
> 
> Beside them, is any potential possibility to have something build-in
> in BIND config/zone file as kind of beautiful (my, and my team,
> personal point of view) solution?
> 
> Anyone knows if there was any similar discussions inside BIND
> developer group before?

Not that I recall.

I'm not sure what benefit you see in adding a feature to
the BIND server and tools.  I should have thought that a
suitable script, either for provisioning your zone file(s)
or for applying a dynamic update, would both relieve any
burden you currently have, and leave you more flexibility
than would an extension to BIND.

FWIW, here's yet another way, grabbed from a shell (bash)
session.

dhcp-c101a88b(niall)4: alias pint
alias pint='perl -ne '\''sub BEGIN {print "pint> "} sub END {print "\n"} printf 
"%s\npint> ",eval'\'''
dhcp-c101a88b(niall)5: pint
pint> use Net::IP

pint> $foo = new Net::IP '2001:db8::42'
3
pint> $foo->reverse_ip()
2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.d.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
pint> ^D
dhcp-c101a88b(niall)6: 

Best regards,
Niall O'Reilly

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Marco Davids (SIDN)
On 04/12/11 11:49, Michel de Nostredame wrote:

>>> you could use ipv6calc (ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/ipv6/ipv6calc) to 
>>> calculate the reverse strings.
>> Yes.
>> Or do it 'the BIND way':
>>  dig  -x 2001:7b8:c05::80:1 | grep ip6.arpa | tail -1 | awk '{print $1}'

> Beside them, is any potential possibility to have something build-in
> in BIND config/zone file as kind of beautiful (my, and my team,
> personal point of view) solution?

I wonder if the $GENERATE directive could work for you.

Not sure...

http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/generate.html

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Marco Davids (SIDN)
 wrote:
> On 04/12/11 10:50, walter.jontofs...@t-systems.com wrote:
>> you could use ipv6calc (ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/ipv6/ipv6calc) to 
>> calculate the reverse strings.
> Yes.
> Or do it 'the BIND way':
>  dig  -x 2001:7b8:c05::80:1 | grep ip6.arpa | tail -1 | awk '{print $1}'

Thanks Walter and Marco. Those two tool/method do resolve short term
needs. Thanks again.
(btw, the URL form Walter should be
ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/IPv6/ipv6calc/ )

Beside them, is any potential possibility to have something build-in
in BIND config/zone file as kind of beautiful (my, and my team,
personal point of view) solution?

Anyone knows if there was any similar discussions inside BIND
developer group before?

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Re: AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Marco Davids (SIDN)
On 04/12/11 10:50, walter.jontofs...@t-systems.com wrote:

> you could use ipv6calc (ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/ipv6/ipv6calc) to 
> calculate the reverse strings.

Yes.

Or do it 'the BIND way':

 dig  -x 2001:7b8:c05::80:1 | grep ip6.arpa | tail -1 | awk '{print $1}'

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> Im Auftrag von Michel de Nostredame
>> Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 20:44
>> An: bind-users
>> Betreff: ipv6 PTR in zone file
>>
>> Hi BIND Users,
>>
>> I am not sure if my post here is proper or not. If not please 
>> kindly guide me to a correct list.
>>
>> I have lot of "static" IPv6 address needs to add into DNS PTR record.
>> Most of them are server IP addresses and addresses on router 
>> interfaces.
>> Compose proper PTR records, without human errors, is highly 
>> difficult (compares to IPv4 PTR records), as we encode some 
>> customer information into the address.
>>
>> I tried to look into bit-string and soon realized it is 
>> already removed from recent BIND versions. Then tried to 
>> search "$REVERSE" and "$INVERSE" on Google but got no much 
>> luck; seems not much development / discussion recently.
>>
>> For example, today we probably do PTR list this,
>>
>> $ORIGIN 0.0.0.0.0.0.d.4.1.a.1.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
>> 1.0.1.a.0.0.0.5.6.0.c.1.0.0.5.6 PTR
>> xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.
>>
>>
>> What I am think about is if there is any potential possibility 
>> to compose IPv6 PTR records in ZONE files in a little easier method?
>> something like
>>
>> $ORIGIN $REVERSE(2001:01a1:4d00:).ip6.arpa.
>> $REVERSE(6500:1c06:5000:a101)  PTR
>> xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.
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AW: ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-12 Thread Walter.Jontofsohn

Hello,

you could use ipv6calc (ftp://ftp.bieringer.de/pub/linux/ipv6/ipv6calc) to 
calculate the reverse strings.
Then you can put them into the zone file.

With Best regards,

Walter


Im Auftrag von Michel de Nostredame
>Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 20:44
>An: bind-users
>Betreff: ipv6 PTR in zone file
>
>Hi BIND Users,
>
>I am not sure if my post here is proper or not. If not please 
>kindly guide me to a correct list.
>
>I have lot of "static" IPv6 address needs to add into DNS PTR record.
>Most of them are server IP addresses and addresses on router 
>interfaces.
>Compose proper PTR records, without human errors, is highly 
>difficult (compares to IPv4 PTR records), as we encode some 
>customer information into the address.
>
>I tried to look into bit-string and soon realized it is 
>already removed from recent BIND versions. Then tried to 
>search "$REVERSE" and "$INVERSE" on Google but got no much 
>luck; seems not much development / discussion recently.
>
>For example, today we probably do PTR list this,
>
>$ORIGIN 0.0.0.0.0.0.d.4.1.a.1.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
>1.0.1.a.0.0.0.5.6.0.c.1.0.0.5.6 PTR
>xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.
>
>
>What I am think about is if there is any potential possibility 
>to compose IPv6 PTR records in ZONE files in a little easier method?
>something like
>
>$ORIGIN $REVERSE(2001:01a1:4d00:).ip6.arpa.
>$REVERSE(6500:1c06:5000:a101)  PTR
>xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.
>
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ipv6 PTR in zone file

2011-04-11 Thread Michel de Nostredame
Hi BIND Users,

I am not sure if my post here is proper or not. If not please kindly
guide me to a correct list.

I have lot of "static" IPv6 address needs to add into DNS PTR record.
Most of them are server IP addresses and addresses on router
interfaces.
Compose proper PTR records, without human errors, is highly difficult
(compares to IPv4 PTR records), as we encode some customer information
into the address.

I tried to look into bit-string and soon realized it is already
removed from recent BIND versions. Then tried to search "$REVERSE" and
"$INVERSE" on Google but got no much luck; seems not much development
/ discussion recently.

For example, today we probably do PTR list this,

$ORIGIN 0.0.0.0.0.0.d.4.1.a.1.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa.
1.0.1.a.0.0.0.5.6.0.c.1.0.0.5.6 PTR
xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.


What I am think about is if there is any potential possibility to
compose IPv6 PTR records in ZONE files in a little easier method?
something like

$ORIGIN $REVERSE(2001:01a1:4d00:).ip6.arpa.
$REVERSE(6500:1c06:5000:a101)  PTR
xe-3-0-3-101.ar.par1.fr.netname.net.


Thanks,
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