Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21:35AM +0100,
 Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote 
 a message of 88 lines which said:

 I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you
 usually get some help... isn't it ?

You're right, it's a shame. Ask immediately for a refund, both for
your registration to the mailing list and for BIND itself.

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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:35:31AM +0100,
 Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote 
 a message of 80 lines which said:

 I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall

Very bad idea, since it is forged. You do exactly what the attacker
wanted you to do.

The proper thing to do is:

https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-harmful
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Manson
Well...


  I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall

 Very bad idea, since it is forged. You do exactly what the attacker
 wanted you to do.
 The proper thing to do is:
 https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-harmful


this is kind of response I expect : an answer of someone who know the
subject to a person who doesn't...
In this case, I could do nothing (and let the attack be done) or, doing
things wrong that amplify the attack.
Is it something everyone would want? If so, just tell me, I'll setup DoS
attack myself, if it's in the general interest !


 Please go read the list achives.

this encourage to do nothing : I've a working system (my domain name are
resolved accross the internet) why care more ?
and then let the dns system get attacked... great...



On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:59, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.frwrote:

 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21:35AM +0100,
  Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote
  a message of 88 lines which said:

  I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you
  usually get some help... isn't it ?

 You're right, it's a shame. Ask immediately for a refund, both for
 your registration to the mailing list and for BIND itself.


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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread David Ford
An intelligently designed firewall rule that drops the incoming requests
isn't doing exactly what the attacker wants.  It's the opposite.  The
main effect of forged lookups is a response flood. And so it is also
intended to flood the victim with overwhelming amounts of DNS
responses.  It, like any solution, is a two edged blade.  Allowing all
the responses to flow back to the victim floods them.  Dropping the
incoming request prevents that but it also prevents them from doing
lookups on your nameserver for domains that you are authoritative for.

So if you drop all these forged queries to your authoritative
nameservers save one or two, the victim will get less traffic, and still
be able to do lookups - they'll just take a wee bit longer on average. 
If your nameserver is only getting one or two of these every several
minutes, then your impact on the victim is insignificant and you need
not take any action - assuming your BIND configuration is proper. 
However if you happen to be a fat target and you're getting dozens or
hundreds of these per second, then you're having a significant impact on
the victim and that particular server should do some filtering.

Firewalls are smart these days.  It's entirely possible to do some deep
packet inspection and drop only the . requests, and/or do rate
limiting.  The only firewalls left that can't do this are ancient beasts
that have too many layers of dust on them.

So in addition to ensuring your BIND configuration is setup properly to
refuse upward referrals, recursion, answers from cache to strangers so
forth and so on, it is also important to judiciously apply firewall rules.

There can be more than one proper thing to do.

-d

Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:35:31AM +0100,
  Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote 
  a message of 80 lines which said:

   
 I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall
 

 Very bad idea, since it is forged. You do exactly what the attacker
 wanted you to do.

 The proper thing to do is:

 https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-harmful

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RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Matthew Huff
I've been aware of this problem since it first came up on this and nanog's
list, but I'm having some configuration issues trying to make the upward
referrel be refused. I'm running bind-9.6.0P1, but I'm still seeing the NS
queries being answered in the log:

11-Feb-2009 09:34:25.489 queries: client 195.68.176.4#53715: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:35:04.525 queries: client 195.40.1.15#58313: view
external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
11-Feb-2009 09:35:28.121 queries: client 195.68.176.4#48472: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:35:44.138 queries: client 195.40.1.11#59164: view
external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
11-Feb-2009 09:36:30.755 queries: client 195.68.176.4#39942: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:37:33.388 queries: client 195.68.176.4#11158: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:38:36.022 queries: client 195.68.176.4#16095: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +

My config follows, any suggestion?

options {
directory /var/named;
pid-file /var/named/named.pid;
statistics-file /var/named/named.stats;
memstatistics-file /var/named/named.memstats;
dump-file /var/adm/named.dump;
zone-statistics yes;

notify no;

transfer-format many-answers;
max-transfer-time-in 60;
interface-interval 0;

recursion no;

allow-transfer { xfer; };
allow-query { none; };
allow-recursion { none; };

additional-from-auth no;
additional-from-cache no;
};

view internal-in in {
  match-clients { trusted; };
  recursion yes;
  additional-from-auth yes;
  additional-from-cache yes;
  allow-query { trusted; };
  allow-recursion { trusted; };
  allow-query-cache { trusted; };

  zone . in {
type hint;
file db.cache;
  };

  zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa in {
type master;
file master/db.127.0.0;
allow-query {
  any;
};
allow-transfer { none; };
  };

  zone foo.com in {
type master;
file master/db.foo;
   };

...
...
...

};

view external-in in {
  match-clients { any; };
  recursion no;

  allow-transfer { xfer; };
  allow-query { none; };
  allow-recursion { none; };

  additional-from-auth no;
  additional-from-cache no;

  zone . in {
type hint;
file db.cache;
  };
 
  zone foo.com in {
type master;
file master/db.foo;
allow-query { any; };
  };

...
...
...
};


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OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
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RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread David Forrest

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Matthew Huff wrote:


I've been aware of this problem since it first came up on this and nanog's
list, but I'm having some configuration issues trying to make the upward
referrel be refused. I'm running bind-9.6.0P1, but I'm still seeing the NS
queries being answered in the log:

11-Feb-2009 09:34:25.489 queries: client 195.68.176.4#53715: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:35:04.525 queries: client 195.40.1.15#58313: view
external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
11-Feb-2009 09:35:28.121 queries: client 195.68.176.4#48472: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:35:44.138 queries: client 195.40.1.11#59164: view
external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
11-Feb-2009 09:36:30.755 queries: client 195.68.176.4#39942: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:37:33.388 queries: client 195.68.176.4#11158: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +
11-Feb-2009 09:38:36.022 queries: client 195.68.176.4#16095: view
external-in: query: . IN NS +

My config follows, any suggestion?

options {
   directory /var/named;
   pid-file /var/named/named.pid;
   statistics-file /var/named/named.stats;
   memstatistics-file /var/named/named.memstats;
   dump-file /var/adm/named.dump;
   zone-statistics yes;

   notify no;

   transfer-format many-answers;
   max-transfer-time-in 60;
   interface-interval 0;

   recursion no;

   allow-transfer { xfer; };
   allow-query { none; };
   allow-recursion { none; };

   additional-from-auth no;
   additional-from-cache no;
};

view internal-in in {
 match-clients { trusted; };
 recursion yes;
 additional-from-auth yes;
 additional-from-cache yes;
 allow-query { trusted; };
 allow-recursion { trusted; };
 allow-query-cache { trusted; };

 zone . in {
   type hint;
   file db.cache;
 };

 zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa in {
   type master;
   file master/db.127.0.0;
   allow-query {
 any;
   };
   allow-transfer { none; };
 };

 zone foo.com in {
   type master;
   file master/db.foo;
  };

...
...
...

};

view external-in in {
 match-clients { any; };
 recursion no;

 allow-transfer { xfer; };
 allow-query { none; };
 allow-recursion { none; };

 additional-from-auth no;
 additional-from-cache no;

 zone . in {
   type hint;
   file db.cache;
 };

 zone foo.com in {
   type master;
   file master/db.foo;
   allow-query { any; };
 };

...
...
...
};

Matthew, the querylog shows what was queried.  To see what is answered try 
digging your external interface.


Here is my external view:

view external { // Primary nameserver for maplepark.com.
match-clients { any; };
recursion no;
additional-from-cache no;
// https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-harmful

zone maplepark.com{
type master;
notify yes;
allow-transfer { slave-name-servers; };
file /var/named/drf/external/maplepark.com.external.;
};

zone . { type hint; file named.ca; };  // Update this hint by: 
/usr/local/sbin/update-root-cache
};

And the result of the external query:

[...@maplepark ~]$ dig +bufsize=4096  @64.216.205.121 . NS

;  DiG 9.6.0-P1  +bufsize=4096 @64.216.205.121 . NS
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 24703
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;.  IN  NS

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 64.216.205.121#53(64.216.205.121)
;; WHEN: Wed Feb 11 08:53:04 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 28

[...@maplepark ~]$

Note that the status is REFUSED and MSG SIZE is 28 bytes

And the querylog has this:
11-Feb-2009 08:53:04.195 queries: info: client 64.216.205.121#58714: view 
external: query: . IN NS +E

Try digging. AFAICT your conf should return REFUSED

Dave

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RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Matthew Huff
Thanks to David Forest, I realize now that the query IS being refused,
however nothing in the bind log shows the refusal. Is there anyway to see
that in the log?


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 -Original Message-
 From: David Forrest [mailto:d...@maplepark.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:11 AM
 To: Matthew Huff
 Cc: 'bind-users@lists.isc.org'
 Subject: RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a
 misconfiguration ?
 
 On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Matthew Huff wrote:
 
  I've been aware of this problem since it first came up on this and
 nanog's
  list, but I'm having some configuration issues trying to make the
 upward
  referrel be refused. I'm running bind-9.6.0P1, but I'm still seeing
 the NS
  queries being answered in the log:
 
  11-Feb-2009 09:34:25.489 queries: client 195.68.176.4#53715: view
  external-in: query: . IN NS +
  11-Feb-2009 09:35:04.525 queries: client 195.40.1.15#58313: view
  external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
  11-Feb-2009 09:35:28.121 queries: client 195.68.176.4#48472: view
  external-in: query: . IN NS +
  11-Feb-2009 09:35:44.138 queries: client 195.40.1.11#59164: view
  external-in: query: ox.com IN NS -EDC
  11-Feb-2009 09:36:30.755 queries: client 195.68.176.4#39942: view
  external-in: query: . IN NS +
  11-Feb-2009 09:37:33.388 queries: client 195.68.176.4#11158: view
  external-in: query: . IN NS +
  11-Feb-2009 09:38:36.022 queries: client 195.68.176.4#16095: view
  external-in: query: . IN NS +
 
  My config follows, any suggestion?
 
  options {
 directory /var/named;
 pid-file /var/named/named.pid;
 statistics-file /var/named/named.stats;
 memstatistics-file /var/named/named.memstats;
 dump-file /var/adm/named.dump;
 zone-statistics yes;
 
 notify no;
 
 transfer-format many-answers;
 max-transfer-time-in 60;
 interface-interval 0;
 
 recursion no;
 
 allow-transfer { xfer; };
 allow-query { none; };
 allow-recursion { none; };
 
 additional-from-auth no;
 additional-from-cache no;
  };
 
  view internal-in in {
   match-clients { trusted; };
   recursion yes;
   additional-from-auth yes;
   additional-from-cache yes;
   allow-query { trusted; };
   allow-recursion { trusted; };
   allow-query-cache { trusted; };
 
   zone . in {
 type hint;
 file db.cache;
   };
 
   zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa in {
 type master;
 file master/db.127.0.0;
 allow-query {
   any;
 };
 allow-transfer { none; };
   };
 
   zone foo.com in {
 type master;
 file master/db.foo;
};
 
  ...
  ...
  ...
 
  };
 
  view external-in in {
   match-clients { any; };
   recursion no;
 
   allow-transfer { xfer; };
   allow-query { none; };
   allow-recursion { none; };
 
   additional-from-auth no;
   additional-from-cache no;
 
   zone . in {
 type hint;
 file db.cache;
   };
 
   zone foo.com in {
 type master;
 file master/db.foo;
 allow-query { any; };
   };
 
  ...
  ...
  ...
  };
 
 Matthew, the querylog shows what was queried.  To see what is answered
 try
 digging your external interface.
 
 Here is my external view:
 
 view external { // Primary nameserver for maplepark.com.
  match-clients { any; };
  recursion no;
  additional-from-cache no;
 // https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-
 harmful
 
 zone maplepark.com{
  type master;
  notify yes;
  allow-transfer { slave-name-servers; };
  file /var/named/drf/external/maplepark.com.external.;
  };
 
 zone . { type hint; file named.ca; };  // Update this hint by:
 /usr/local/sbin/update-root-cache
 };
 
 And the result of the external query:
 
 [...@maplepark ~]$ dig +bufsize=4096  @64.216.205.121 . NS
 
 ;  DiG 9.6.0-P1  +bufsize=4096 @64.216.205.121 . NS
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 24703
 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
 
 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
 ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;.IN  NS
 
 ;; Query time: 0 msec
 ;; SERVER: 64.216.205.121#53(64.216.205.121)
 ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 11 08:53:04 2009
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 28
 
 [...@maplepark ~]$
 
 Note that the status is REFUSED and MSG SIZE is 28 bytes
 
 And the querylog has this:
 11-Feb-2009 08:53:04.195 queries: info: client 64.216.205.121#58714:
 view external: query: . IN NS +E
 
 Try digging. AFAICT your conf should return REFUSED
 
 Dave
 
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 Maple Park Development Corporation  http://www.maplepark.com
 St. Louis, Missouri


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loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
Hi,

I can see in my secondary DNS server a lot of logs with query(cache) denied
from the same ip.
I've traceroute one of them which seems to be a russian computer.


 * *
17  ns1.orlan-net.ru (195.68.176.4)  136.563 ms * *


Feb 11 00:21:49 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#59934: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:49 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#23591: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:53 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#54430: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:53 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#46875: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:55 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#43603: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:56 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#27124: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#14844: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#11936: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#5777: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#64647: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#41115: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#6712: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:59 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#38402: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:59 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#59205: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:01 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#36863: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:02 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#51511: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#50013: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#43818: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#10674: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:05 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#61345: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:05 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#5707: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#53811: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#53504: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#24805: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:07 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#50225: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:08 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#27039: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:08 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#47331: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#53740: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#53988: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#1995: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN' denied


Is it a misconfiguration of my dns Server (which passes french nic test
so...) or an attack or something else ?

Is there anything I should do ?

Regards,
Thomas.
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

Please go read the list achives.

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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

In message f43eb7e60902101552l524787b1t72fcc821437af...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma
s Manson writes:
 

The subject matter has been discussed in lots of detail
over the last month.  Go read the archives of the mailing
list.

Mark
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?)

equivalent : google is your friend, search the RFCs

Then... read the list archives... I guess I can spend the next ten years if
I read it from the beginning

Could you give any clue of what to look for ?

I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you usually
get some help... isn't it ?

Thomas.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:52, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.comwrote:

 


 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:51, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:


Please go read the list achives.

Mark
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

In message f43eb7e60902101621y66133c17lc46a1df451f1b...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma
s Manson writes:
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 That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?)
 
 equivalent : google is your friend, search the RFCs

Feeding the error message into Google would have given you
lots of relevent information.

query (cache) './NS/IN' denied

I didn't want to start yet another debate about what is the
right thing to do.

Mark

 Then... read the list archives... I guess I can spend the next ten years if
 I read it from the beginning
 
 Could you give any clue of what to look for ?
 
 I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you usually
 get some help... isn't it ?
 
 Thomas.
 
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:52, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.comwrot
 e:
 
  
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:51, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
 
 
 Please go read the list achives.
 
 Mark
  --
  Mark Andrews, ISC
  1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
  PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org
 
 
 
 
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
someone answers me,

you could just have say search reflector DoS attack in the archive list,
this would have narrow down a lot my research.

I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:


 In message f43eb7e60902101552l524787b1t72fcc821437af...@mail.gmail.com,
 Thoma
 s Manson writes:
  

The subject matter has been discussed in lots of detail
over the last month.  Go read the archives of the mailing
list.

Mark
 --
 Mark Andrews, ISC
 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
 PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org

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