re: .prod issues

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Vixie
> I have a subdomain prod.mydomain.com today all of our internal
> resources that use this prod subdomain stopped being able to reach
> eachother.  I believe the issue is related to the release of .prod as
> a TLD.  Is there a way I can block this TLD or point it back to my
> environment?
>
> Currently, I have added mdots:2 to resolv.conf as a workaround.

i think you probably mean ndots not mdots. that's a fine workaround as
long as you control all your stub resolvers (which is where the ndots
logic runs) and they are all running the BIND stub resolver (for which
ndots is a unique feature; see RFC 1535 for the history).

a likely better workaround is to use DNS RPZ (so, you'll need BIND 9.9
or later on your recursive servers) and put in a local rule like "*.PROD
CNAME ." to cause all of the search-path logic of all your stub
resolvers (whether they have ndots logic, or not) to never see the PROD
TLD, and thus, fall through to your local PROD.EXAMPLE.COM names.

sadly, i think a lot of people in a lot of places are going to do this
to a lot of the new GTLD's. but the new GTLD's have been on greased
rails since inception, and no amount of warnings about this kind of
damage did more than slow things down briefly. so, the hounds of DNS
hell are now loose. good thing we have RPZ i guess.

vixie
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Re: .prod issues

2014-09-05 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 
, Reade 
Taylor writes:
>  I have a subdomain prod.mydomain.com today all of our internal resources
> that use this prod subdomain stopped being able to reach eachother.  I
> believe the issue is related to the release of .prod as a TLD.  Is there a
> way I can block this TLD or point it back to my environment?
> 
> Currently, I have added mdots:2 to resolv.conf as a workaround.
> 
> Reade

You need to stop using partially qualified names to refer to local
machines, e.g. host.prod.  The DNS was not designed to be used that
way even if resolvers let you get away with it until the introduction
of prod.

Your machine names are host.prod.mydomain.com not host.prod.

Stick to unqualified + search list and fully qualified.
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
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Re: .prod issues

2014-09-05 Thread Billy Glynn
On 5 Sep 2014, at 14:04, Reade Taylor  wrote:

> I have a subdomain prod.mydomain.com today all of our internal resources that 
> use this prod subdomain stopped being able to reach eachother.  I believe the 
> issue is related to the release of .prod as a TLD.  Is there a way I can 
> block this TLD or point it back to my environment?
> 
> Currently, I have added mdots:2 to resolv.conf as a workaround.

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/name-collision-mitigation-01aug14-en.pdf


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Re: .prod issues

2014-09-05 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 08:04:05AM -0500, Reade Taylor wrote:
>  I have a subdomain prod.mydomain.com today all of our internal resources
> that use this prod subdomain stopped being able to reach eachother.  I
> believe the issue is related to the release of .prod as a TLD.  Is there a
> way I can block this TLD or point it back to my environment?
> 
> Currently, I have added mdots:2 to resolv.conf as a workaround.
> 
> Reade

Are you using FQDNs everywhere?
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