[Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi all, I recently asked about ways to do non-standard read counting in summarizeOverlaps, and Martin Morgan directed me toward writing a custom function to pass as the "mode" parameter. I have now written the custom modes that I require for counting my ChIP-Seq reads, and I figured I would contribute them back in case there was interest in merging them. The main three functions are "ResizeReads", "FivePrimeEnd", and "ThreePrimeEnd". The first allows you to directionally extend or shorten each read to the effective fragment length for the purpose of determining overlaps. For example, if each read represents the 5-prime end of a 150-bp fragment and you want to count these fragments using the Union mode, you could do: summarizeOverlaps(mode=ResizeReads(mode=Union, width=150, fix="start"), ...) Note that ResizeReads takes a mode argument. It returns a function (with a closure storing the passed arguments) that performs the resizing (by coercing reads to GRanges and calling "resize") and then dispatches to the provided mode. (It probably needs to add a call to "match.fun" somewhere.) The other two functions are designed to count overlaps of only the read ends. They are implemented internally using "ResizeReads" with width=1. The other three counting modes (the "*ExtraArgs" functions) are meant to be used to easily construct new counting modes. Each function takes any number of arguments and returns a counting mode that works like the standard one of the same name, except that those arguments are passed as extra args to "findOverlaps". For example, you could do Union mode with a requirement for a minimum overlap of 10: summarizeOverlaps(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), ...) Note that these can be combined or "nested". For instance, you might want a fragment length of 150 and a min overlap of 10: myCountingMode <- ResizeReads(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), width=150, fix="start") summarizeOverlaps(mode=myCountingMode, ...) Anyway, if you think any of these are worthy of inclusion for BioConductor, feel free to add them in. I'm not so sure about the "nesting" idea, though. Functions that return functions (with states saved in closures, which are then passed into another function) are confusing for people who are not programmers by trade. Maybe summarizeOverlaps should just gain an argument to pass args to findOverlaps. -Ryan Thompson ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi Ryan, These sound like great contributions. I didn't get an attachment - did you send one? Thanks. Valerie On 04/30/2014 01:06 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi all, I recently asked about ways to do non-standard read counting in summarizeOverlaps, and Martin Morgan directed me toward writing a custom function to pass as the "mode" parameter. I have now written the custom modes that I require for counting my ChIP-Seq reads, and I figured I would contribute them back in case there was interest in merging them. The main three functions are "ResizeReads", "FivePrimeEnd", and "ThreePrimeEnd". The first allows you to directionally extend or shorten each read to the effective fragment length for the purpose of determining overlaps. For example, if each read represents the 5-prime end of a 150-bp fragment and you want to count these fragments using the Union mode, you could do: summarizeOverlaps(mode=ResizeReads(mode=Union, width=150, fix="start"), ...) Note that ResizeReads takes a mode argument. It returns a function (with a closure storing the passed arguments) that performs the resizing (by coercing reads to GRanges and calling "resize") and then dispatches to the provided mode. (It probably needs to add a call to "match.fun" somewhere.) The other two functions are designed to count overlaps of only the read ends. They are implemented internally using "ResizeReads" with width=1. The other three counting modes (the "*ExtraArgs" functions) are meant to be used to easily construct new counting modes. Each function takes any number of arguments and returns a counting mode that works like the standard one of the same name, except that those arguments are passed as extra args to "findOverlaps". For example, you could do Union mode with a requirement for a minimum overlap of 10: summarizeOverlaps(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), ...) Note that these can be combined or "nested". For instance, you might want a fragment length of 150 and a min overlap of 10: myCountingMode <- ResizeReads(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), width=150, fix="start") summarizeOverlaps(mode=myCountingMode, ...) Anyway, if you think any of these are worthy of inclusion for BioConductor, feel free to add them in. I'm not so sure about the "nesting" idea, though. Functions that return functions (with states saved in closures, which are then passed into another function) are confusing for people who are not programmers by trade. Maybe summarizeOverlaps should just gain an argument to pass args to findOverlaps. -Ryan Thompson ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
No, I forgot to attach the file. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qghtksl3mbvlsl/counting-modes.R On Wed 30 Apr 2014 02:18:28 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, These sound like great contributions. I didn't get an attachment - did you send one? Thanks. Valerie On 04/30/2014 01:06 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi all, I recently asked about ways to do non-standard read counting in summarizeOverlaps, and Martin Morgan directed me toward writing a custom function to pass as the "mode" parameter. I have now written the custom modes that I require for counting my ChIP-Seq reads, and I figured I would contribute them back in case there was interest in merging them. The main three functions are "ResizeReads", "FivePrimeEnd", and "ThreePrimeEnd". The first allows you to directionally extend or shorten each read to the effective fragment length for the purpose of determining overlaps. For example, if each read represents the 5-prime end of a 150-bp fragment and you want to count these fragments using the Union mode, you could do: summarizeOverlaps(mode=ResizeReads(mode=Union, width=150, fix="start"), ...) Note that ResizeReads takes a mode argument. It returns a function (with a closure storing the passed arguments) that performs the resizing (by coercing reads to GRanges and calling "resize") and then dispatches to the provided mode. (It probably needs to add a call to "match.fun" somewhere.) The other two functions are designed to count overlaps of only the read ends. They are implemented internally using "ResizeReads" with width=1. The other three counting modes (the "*ExtraArgs" functions) are meant to be used to easily construct new counting modes. Each function takes any number of arguments and returns a counting mode that works like the standard one of the same name, except that those arguments are passed as extra args to "findOverlaps". For example, you could do Union mode with a requirement for a minimum overlap of 10: summarizeOverlaps(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), ...) Note that these can be combined or "nested". For instance, you might want a fragment length of 150 and a min overlap of 10: myCountingMode <- ResizeReads(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), width=150, fix="start") summarizeOverlaps(mode=myCountingMode, ...) Anyway, if you think any of these are worthy of inclusion for BioConductor, feel free to add them in. I'm not so sure about the "nesting" idea, though. Functions that return functions (with states saved in closures, which are then passed into another function) are confusing for people who are not programmers by trade. Maybe summarizeOverlaps should just gain an argument to pass args to findOverlaps. -Ryan Thompson ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Thanks. I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. A couple of questions: - Do you want to handle paired-end reads? You coerce to a GRanges to resize but don't coerce back. - Do you want to require strand info for all reads? Is this because of how resize() anchors "*" to 'start'? chipseq <- function(features, reads, ignore.strand=FALSE, inter.feature=TRUE, type="any", maxgap=0L, minoverlap=1L, width=NULL, fix="start", use.names=TRUE) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") if (any(strand(reads) == "*")) stop("all reads must have strand") if (!is.null(width)) reads <- do.call(resize(reads, width, fix=fix, use.names=use.names, ignore.strand=ignore.strand)) ov <- findOverlaps(features, reads, type=type, ignore.strand=ignore.strand, maxgap=maxgap, minoverlap=minoverlap) if (inter.feature) { ## Remove reads that overlap multiple features. reads_to_keep <- which(countSubjectHits(ov) == 1L) ov <- ov[subjectHits(ov) %in% reads_to_keep] } countQueryHits(ov) } To count the overlaps of 5' and 3' ends: summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="start", width=1) summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="end", width=1) Valerie On 04/30/2014 02:41 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: No, I forgot to attach the file. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qghtksl3mbvlsl/counting-modes.R On Wed 30 Apr 2014 02:18:28 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, These sound like great contributions. I didn't get an attachment - did you send one? Thanks. Valerie On 04/30/2014 01:06 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi all, I recently asked about ways to do non-standard read counting in summarizeOverlaps, and Martin Morgan directed me toward writing a custom function to pass as the "mode" parameter. I have now written the custom modes that I require for counting my ChIP-Seq reads, and I figured I would contribute them back in case there was interest in merging them. The main three functions are "ResizeReads", "FivePrimeEnd", and "ThreePrimeEnd". The first allows you to directionally extend or shorten each read to the effective fragment length for the purpose of determining overlaps. For example, if each read represents the 5-prime end of a 150-bp fragment and you want to count these fragments using the Union mode, you could do: summarizeOverlaps(mode=ResizeReads(mode=Union, width=150, fix="start"), ...) Note that ResizeReads takes a mode argument. It returns a function (with a closure storing the passed arguments) that performs the resizing (by coercing reads to GRanges and calling "resize") and then dispatches to the provided mode. (It probably needs to add a call to "match.fun" somewhere.) The other two functions are designed to count overlaps of only the read ends. They are implemented internally using "ResizeReads" with width=1. The other three counting modes (the "*ExtraArgs" functions) are meant to be used to easily construct new counting modes. Each function takes any number of arguments and returns a counting mode that works like the standard one of the same name, except that those arguments are passed as extra args to "findOverlaps". For example, you could do Union mode with a requirement for a minimum overlap of 10: summarizeOverlaps(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), ...) Note that these can be combined or "nested". For instance, you might want a fragment length of 150 and a min overlap of 10: myCountingMode <- ResizeReads(mode=UnionExtraArgs(minoverlap=10), width=150, fix="start") summarizeOverlaps(mode=myCountingMode, ...) Anyway, if you think any of these are worthy of inclusion for BioConductor, feel free to add them in. I'm not so sure about the "nesting" idea, though. Functions that return functions (with states saved in closures, which are then passed into another function) are confusing for people who are not programmers by trade. Maybe summarizeOverlaps should just gain an argument to pass args to findOverlaps. -Ryan Thompson ___ Bioc-devel@r-project.org mailing list https
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. This sounds nice, but if I use the 'chipseq' mode, how do I specify whether I want Union, IntersectionNotEmpty, or IntersectionStrict? It looks like it just does Union? IntersectionStrict would be useful for specifying that the read has to occur entirely within the bounds of a called peak, for example. This is why I implemented it as a "wrapper" that takes another mode as an argument, so that the resizing logic and the counting logic were independent. Maybe summarizeOverlaps could accept an optional "read modification function", and if this is provided, it will pass the reads through this before passing them to the counting function. The read modification function would have to take any valid reads argument and return another valid reads argument. It could be used for modifying the reads as well as filtering them. This would allow resizing without the awkward nesting method that I've used. A couple of questions: - Do you want to handle paired-end reads? You coerce to a GRanges to resize but don't coerce back. For paired end reads, there is no need to estimate the fragment length, because the pair gives you both ends of the fragment. So if I had paired-end ChIP-Seq data, I would use it as is with no resizing. I can't personally think of a reason to resize a paired-end fragment, but I don't know if others might need that. I corece to GRanges because I know how GRanges work, but I'm not as familiar with GAlignments so I don't know how the resize function works on GAlignments and other classes. I'm sure you know better than I do how these work. If the coercion is superfluous, feel free to eliminate it. - Do you want to require strand info for all reads? Is this because of how resize() anchors "*" to 'start'? Yes, I require strand info for all reads because the reads must be directionally extended, which requires strand info. Ditto for counting the 5-prime and 3-prime ends. -Ryan chipseq <- function(features, reads, ignore.strand=FALSE, inter.feature=TRUE, type="any", maxgap=0L, minoverlap=1L, width=NULL, fix="start", use.names=TRUE) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") if (any(strand(reads) == "*")) stop("all reads must have strand") if (!is.null(width)) reads <- do.call(resize(reads, width, fix=fix, use.names=use.names, ignore.strand=ignore.strand)) ov <- findOverlaps(features, reads, type=type, ignore.strand=ignore.strand, maxgap=maxgap, minoverlap=minoverlap) if (inter.feature) { ## Remove reads that overlap multiple features. reads_to_keep <- which(countSubjectHits(ov) == 1L) ov <- ov[subjectHits(ov) %in% reads_to_keep] } countQueryHits(ov) } To count the overlaps of 5' and 3' ends: summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="start", width=1) summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="end", width=1) Valerie On 04/30/2014 02:41 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: No, I forgot to attach the file. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qghtksl3mbvlsl/counting-modes.R On Wed 30 Apr 2014 02:18:28 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, These sound like great contributions. I didn't get an attachment - did you send one? Thanks. Valerie On 04/30/2014 01:06 PM, Ry
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. This sounds nice, but if I use the 'chipseq' mode, how do I specify whether I want Union, IntersectionNotEmpty, or IntersectionStrict? It looks like it just does Union? IntersectionStrict would be useful for specifying that the read has to occur entirely within the bounds of a called peak, for example. This is why I implemented it as a "wrapper" that takes another mode as an argument, so that the resizing logic and the counting logic were independent. 'chipseq' didn't implement the standard modes b/c I wanted to avoid the clash of passing unconventional findOverlaps() args to those modes. The assumption was that if the user specified a mode they would expect a certain behavior ... Maybe summarizeOverlaps could accept an optional "read modification function", and if this is provided, it will pass the reads through this before passing them to the counting function. The read modification function would have to take any valid reads argument and return another valid reads argument. It could be used for modifying the reads as well as filtering them. This would allow resizing without the awkward nesting method that I've used. Good idea. Maybe a 'preprocess' or 'prefilter' arg to allow massaging before counting. I'll post back when it's done. Valerie A couple of questions: - Do you want to handle paired-end reads? You coerce to a GRanges to resize but don't coerce back. For paired end reads, there is no need to estimate the fragment length, because the pair gives you both ends of the fragment. So if I had paired-end ChIP-Seq data, I would use it as is with no resizing. I can't personally think of a reason to resize a paired-end fragment, but I don't know if others might need that. I corece to GRanges because I know how GRanges work, but I'm not as familiar with GAlignments so I don't know how the resize function works on GAlignments and other classes. I'm sure you know better than I do how these work. If the coercion is superfluous, feel free to eliminate it. - Do you want to require strand info for all reads? Is this because of how resize() anchors "*" to 'start'? Yes, I require strand info for all reads because the reads must be directionally extended, which requires strand info. Ditto for counting the 5-prime and 3-prime ends. -Ryan chipseq <- function(features, reads, ignore.strand=FALSE, inter.feature=TRUE, type="any", maxgap=0L, minoverlap=1L, width=NULL, fix="start", use.names=TRUE) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") if (any(strand(reads) == "*")) stop("all reads must have strand") if (!is.null(width)) reads <- do.call(resize(reads, width, fix=fix, use.names=use.names, ignore.strand=ignore.strand)) ov <- findOverlaps(features, reads, type=type, ignore.strand=ignore.strand, maxgap=maxgap, minoverlap=minoverlap) if (inter.feature) { ## Remove reads that overlap multiple features. reads_to_keep <- which(countSubjectHits(ov) == 1L) ov <- ov[subjectHits(ov) %in% reads_to_keep] } countQueryHits(ov) } To count the overlaps of 5' and 3' ends: summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="start", width=1) summarizeOverlaps(reads, features, chipseq, fix="end", width=
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. This sounds nice, but if I use the 'chipseq' mode, how do I specify whether I want Union, IntersectionNotEmpty, or IntersectionStrict? It looks like it just does Union? IntersectionStrict would be useful for specifying that the read has to occur entirely within the bounds of a called peak, for example. This is why I implemented it as a "wrapper" that takes another mode as an argument, so that the resizing logic and the counting logic were independent. 'chipseq' didn't implement the standard modes b/c I wanted to avoid the clash of passing unconventional findOverlaps() args to those modes. The assumption was that if the user specified a mode they would expect a certain behavior ... Maybe summarizeOverlaps could accept an optional "read modification function", and if this is provided, it will pass the reads through this before passing them to the counting function. The read modification function would have to take any valid reads argument and return another valid reads argument. It could be used for modifying the reads as well as filtering them. This would allow resizing without the awkward nesting method that I've used. Good idea. Maybe a 'preprocess' or 'prefilter' arg to allow massaging before counting. I'll post back when it's done. Valerie A couple of questions: - Do you want to handle paired-end reads? You coerce to a GRanges to resize but don't coerce back. For paired end reads, there is no need to estimate the fragment length, because the pair gives you both ends of the fragment. So if I had paired-end ChIP-Seq data, I would use it as is with no resizing. I can't personally think of a reason to resize a paired-end fragment, but I don't know if others might need that. I corece to GRanges because I know how GRanges work, but I'm not as familiar with GAlignments so I don't know how the resize function works on GAlignments and other classes. I'm sure you know better than I do how these work. If the coercion is superfluous, feel free to eliminate it. - Do you want to require strand info for all reads? Is this because of how resize() anchors "*" to 'start'? Yes, I require strand info for all reads because the reads must be directionally extended, which requires strand info. Ditto for counting the 5-prime and 3-prime ends. -Ryan chipseq <- function(features, reads, ignore.strand=FALSE, inter.feature=TRUE, type="any", maxgap=0L, minoverlap=1L, width=NULL, fix="start", use.names=TRUE) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") if (any(strand(reads) == "*")) stop("all reads must have strand") if (!is.null(width)) reads <- do.call(resize(reads, width, fix=fix, use.names=use.names, ignore.strand=ignore.strand)) ov <- findOverlaps(features, reads, type=type, i
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. This sounds nice, but if I use the 'chipseq' mode, how do I specify whether I want Union, IntersectionNotEmpty, or IntersectionStrict? It looks like it just does Union? IntersectionStrict would be useful for specifying that the read has to occur entirely within the bounds of a called peak, for example. This is why I implemented it as a "wrapper" that takes another mode as an argument, so that the resizing logic and the counting logic were independent. 'chipseq' didn't implement the standard modes b/c I wanted to avoid the clash of passing unconventional findOverlaps() args to those modes. The assumption was that if the user specified a mode they would expect a certain behavior ... Maybe summarizeOverlaps could accept an optional "read modification function", and if this is provided, it will pass the reads through this before passing them to the counting function. The read modification function would have to take any valid reads argument and return another valid reads argument. It could be used for modifying the reads as well as filtering them. This would allow resizing without the awkward nesting method that I've used. Good idea. Maybe a 'preprocess' or 'prefilter' arg to allow massaging before counting. I'll post back when it's done. Valerie A couple of questions: - Do you want to handle paired-end reads? You coerce to a GRanges to resize but don't coerce back. For paired end reads, there is no need to estimate the fragment length, because the pair gives you both ends of the fragment. So if I had paired-end ChIP-Seq data, I would use it as is with no resizing. I can't personally think of a reason to resize a paired-end fragment, but I don't know if others might need that. I corece to GRanges because I know how GRanges work, but I'm not as familiar with GAlignments so I don't know how the resize function works on GAlignments and other classes. I'm sure you know better than I do how these work. If the coercion is superfluous, feel free to eliminate it. - Do you want to require strand info for all reads? Is this because of how resize() anchors "*" to 'start'? Yes, I require strand info for all reads because the reads must be directionally extended, which requires strand info. Ditto for counting the 5-prime and 3-prime ends. -Ryan chipseq <- function(features, reads, ignore.strand=FALSE, inter.feature=TRUE, type="any", maxgap=0L, minoverlap=1L, width=NULL, fix="start", use.names=TRUE) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") if (any(strand(reads) == "*"))
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi again, I'm looking at the examples in the summarizeOverlaps help page here: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/devel/bioc/manuals/GenomicAlignments/man/GenomicAlignments.pdf And the examples fod preprocess.reads are a little confusing. One of the examples passes some additional "..." options to summarizeOverlaps, and implies that these will be passed along as the "..." arguments to the proprocess.reads function: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads, width=1, fix="end") The width and fix arguments are implied to be passed through to ResizeReads, but I don't see it documented anywhere how this would be done. The summarizeOverlaps documentation for "..." says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such as singleEnd, fragments or param that apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." I don't see anything about passing through to preprocess.reads. Incidentally, this is why my original example used a function that constructed a closure with these arguments already bound. I would write the example like this to ensure no ambiguity in argument passing (pay attention to parens): ResizeReads <- function(mode, ...) { resize.args <- list(...) function(reads) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") ## Need strandedness stopifnot(all(strand(reads) != "*")) do.call(resize, c(list(x=reads), resize.args)) } } ## By default ResizeReads() counts reads that overlap on the 5 end: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads()) ## Count reads that overlap on the 3 end by passing new values ## for width and fix: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads(width=1, fix="end")) Anyway, I don't have the devel version of R handy to test this out, so I don't know if what I've described is a problem in practice. But I think that either the preprocess.reads function should be required to only take one argument, or else the method of passing through additional arguments to it should be documented. -Ryan On Tue 05 Aug 2014 05:12:41 PM PDT, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I like the added ability to resize. I've created a 'chipseq' mode that combines these ideas and gives what ResizeReads() was doing but now in 'mode' form. If this implementation gives you the flexibility you were looking for I'll check it into devel. This sounds nice, but if I use the 'chipseq' mode, how do I specify whether I want Union, IntersectionNotEmpty, or IntersectionStrict? It looks like it just does Union? IntersectionStrict would be useful for specifying that the read has to occur entirely within the bounds of a called peak, for example. This is why
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Hi Ryan, On 08/05/2014 05:47 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi again, I'm looking at the examples in the summarizeOverlaps help page here: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/devel/bioc/manuals/GenomicAlignments/man/GenomicAlignments.pdf And the examples fod preprocess.reads are a little confusing. One of the examples passes some additional "..." options to summarizeOverlaps, and implies that these will be passed along as the "..." arguments to the proprocess.reads function: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads, width=1, fix="end") The width and fix arguments are implied to be passed through to ResizeReads, but I don't see it documented anywhere how this would be done. This is standard use of '...'. See the ?'...' and ?dotsMethods man pages. I've added a sentence in \arguments clarifying that '...' can encompass arguments called by any subsequent function/method. The summarizeOverlaps documentation for "..." says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such as singleEnd, fragments or param that apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." I don't see anything about passing through to preprocess.reads. Incidentally, this is why my original example used a function that constructed a closure with these arguments already bound. I would write the example like this to ensure no ambiguity in argument passing (pay attention to parens): The 'resize.args' variable below captures all variables that exist in the .dispatchOverlaps() helper, many of which don't need to be passed to resize(). The 'preprocess.reads' function can be written this way or it can have default values in the signature as I've done in the man page example. Valerie ResizeReads <- function(mode, ...) { resize.args <- list(...) function(reads) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") ## Need strandedness stopifnot(all(strand(reads) != "*")) do.call(resize, c(list(x=reads), resize.args)) } } ## By default ResizeReads() counts reads that overlap on the 5 end: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads()) ## Count reads that overlap on the 3 end by passing new values ## for width and fix: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads(width=1, fix="end")) Anyway, I don't have the devel version of R handy to test this out, so I don't know if what I've described is a problem in practice. But I think that either the preprocess.reads function should be required to only take one argument, or else the method of passing through additional arguments to it should be documented. -Ryan On Tue 05 Aug 2014 05:12:41 PM PDT, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered the interaction between the counting mode and maxgap/minoverlap, but I believe that it would be roughly equivalent to extending/shrinking the features/reads by the specified amount (with some differences for e.g. a feature/read smaller than 2*minoverlap). For example, with a read length of 100 and a minoverlap of 10 in Union counting mode, this would be the same as truncating the first and last 10 (or mabe 9?) bases and operating in normal Union mode. As I said, though, there may be edge cases that I haven't thought of where unexpected things happen. I agree that controlling the overlap args is appealing and I
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Ok, I had a look at the code, and I think understand now. The help text for the "..." argument says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such assingleEnd,fragmentsorparamthat apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." But this is actually referring to the fixed set of individual arguments listed below the dots. It doesn't apply to the arguments that actually get matched by "..." in a call to summarizeOverlaps. These actually get passed straight to preprocess.reads. Perhaps the documentaion for "..." should be updated to reflect this? On Wed Aug 6 11:21:20 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, On 08/05/2014 05:47 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi again, I'm looking at the examples in the summarizeOverlaps help page here: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/devel/bioc/manuals/GenomicAlignments/man/GenomicAlignments.pdf And the examples fod preprocess.reads are a little confusing. One of the examples passes some additional "..." options to summarizeOverlaps, and implies that these will be passed along as the "..." arguments to the proprocess.reads function: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads, width=1, fix="end") The width and fix arguments are implied to be passed through to ResizeReads, but I don't see it documented anywhere how this would be done. This is standard use of '...'. See the ?'...' and ?dotsMethods man pages. I've added a sentence in \arguments clarifying that '...' can encompass arguments called by any subsequent function/method. The summarizeOverlaps documentation for "..." says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such as singleEnd, fragments or param that apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." I don't see anything about passing through to preprocess.reads. Incidentally, this is why my original example used a function that constructed a closure with these arguments already bound. I would write the example like this to ensure no ambiguity in argument passing (pay attention to parens): The 'resize.args' variable below captures all variables that exist in the .dispatchOverlaps() helper, many of which don't need to be passed to resize(). The 'preprocess.reads' function can be written this way or it can have default values in the signature as I've done in the man page example. Valerie ResizeReads <- function(mode, ...) { resize.args <- list(...) function(reads) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") ## Need strandedness stopifnot(all(strand(reads) != "*")) do.call(resize, c(list(x=reads), resize.args)) } } ## By default ResizeReads() counts reads that overlap on the 5 end: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads()) ## Count reads that overlap on the 3 end by passing new values ## for width and fix: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads(width=1, fix="end")) Anyway, I don't have the devel version of R handy to test this out, so I don't know if what I've described is a problem in practice. But I think that either the preprocess.reads function should be required to only take one argument, or else the method of passing through additional arguments to it should be documented. -Ryan On Tue 05 Aug 2014 05:12:41 PM PDT, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specific overlap situations pertaining to gene features which are graphically depicted in the vignette. Changing 'maxgap' or 'minoverlap' will produce a variety of results inconsistent with past behavior and difficult to document (e.g., under what circumstances will IntersectionNotEmpty now register a hit). Well, I wasn't so sure about those functions either. Obviously you can pass arguments that break things. They were mostly designed to be constructors for specific counting modes involving the minoverlap/maxgap arguments, but I decided I didn't need those modes after all. They're certainly not designed to be exposed to the user. I haven't carefully considered th
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
The man page '...' section was updated in GenomicAlignments 1.1.24 in devel. I've now also updated it in 1.0.5 in release. The '...' does not refer only to the fixed set of args listed below the dots. The '...' encompasses any argument(s) provided to summarizeOverlaps() not explicitly stated in the function signature. For example, if you passed FOO=3, then FOO would end up in '...'. Any function/method called inside summarizeOverlaps() with a '...' will pass the arguments down; they continue to be passed down until they are explicitly stated in a function signature (e.g., 'width' and 'fix' in ResizeReads()). Valerie On 08/06/2014 11:35 AM, Ryan wrote: Ok, I had a look at the code, and I think understand now. The help text for the "..." argument says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such assingleEnd,fragmentsorparamthat apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." But this is actually referring to the fixed set of individual arguments listed below the dots. It doesn't apply to the arguments that actually get matched by "..." in a call to summarizeOverlaps. These actually get passed straight to preprocess.reads. Perhaps the documentaion for "..." should be updated to reflect this? On Wed Aug 6 11:21:20 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, On 08/05/2014 05:47 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi again, I'm looking at the examples in the summarizeOverlaps help page here: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/devel/bioc/manuals/GenomicAlignments/man/GenomicAlignments.pdf And the examples fod preprocess.reads are a little confusing. One of the examples passes some additional "..." options to summarizeOverlaps, and implies that these will be passed along as the "..." arguments to the proprocess.reads function: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads, width=1, fix="end") The width and fix arguments are implied to be passed through to ResizeReads, but I don't see it documented anywhere how this would be done. This is standard use of '...'. See the ?'...' and ?dotsMethods man pages. I've added a sentence in \arguments clarifying that '...' can encompass arguments called by any subsequent function/method. The summarizeOverlaps documentation for "..." says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such as singleEnd, fragments or param that apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." I don't see anything about passing through to preprocess.reads. Incidentally, this is why my original example used a function that constructed a closure with these arguments already bound. I would write the example like this to ensure no ambiguity in argument passing (pay attention to parens): The 'resize.args' variable below captures all variables that exist in the .dispatchOverlaps() helper, many of which don't need to be passed to resize(). The 'preprocess.reads' function can be written this way or it can have default values in the signature as I've done in the man page example. Valerie ResizeReads <- function(mode, ...) { resize.args <- list(...) function(reads) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") ## Need strandedness stopifnot(all(strand(reads) != "*")) do.call(resize, c(list(x=reads), resize.args)) } } ## By default ResizeReads() counts reads that overlap on the 5 end: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads()) ## Count reads that overlap on the 3 end by passing new values ## for width and fix: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads(width=1, fix="end")) Anyway, I don't have the devel version of R handy to test this out, so I don't know if what I've described is a problem in practice. But I think that either the preprocess.reads function should be required to only take one argument, or else the method of passing through additional arguments to it should be documented. -Ryan On Tue 05 Aug 2014 05:12:41 PM PDT, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wrote: GenomicAlignments 1.1.8 has a 'preprocess.reads' argument. This should be a function where the first argument is 'reads' and the return value is compatible with 'reads' in the pre-defined count modes. I've used your ResizeReads() as an example in the man page. I think the ability to pre-filter and used a pre-defined mode will be useful. Thanks for the suggestion. Valerie On 05/01/2014 02:29 PM, Valerie Obenchain wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:05 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi Valerie, On Thu May 1 13:27:16 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: I have some concerns about the *ExtraArgs() functions. Passing flexible args to findOverlaps in the existing mode functions fundamentally changes the documented behavior. The modes were created to capture specif
Re: [Bioc-devel] Additional summarizeOverlaps counting modes for ChIP-Seq
Yes, I understand that the "..." doesn't only refer to the fixed set of arguments listed below. I was saying that the *documentation* for the dots argument in summarizeOverlaps was actually talking about the below arguments instead. I don't see it documented anywhere that the dots arguments passed to summarizeOverlaps are passed through to preprocess.reads. You'd have to read the code to figure that out. I guess my issue is that there are a number of internal functions that could conceivably receive the dots arguments that are passed to summarizeOverlaps, and it's not obvious to me that they will ultimately be passed down to preprocess.reads and not some other function or functions. On Wed Aug 6 11:57:10 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: The man page '...' section was updated in GenomicAlignments 1.1.24 in devel. I've now also updated it in 1.0.5 in release. The '...' does not refer only to the fixed set of args listed below the dots. The '...' encompasses any argument(s) provided to summarizeOverlaps() not explicitly stated in the function signature. For example, if you passed FOO=3, then FOO would end up in '...'. Any function/method called inside summarizeOverlaps() with a '...' will pass the arguments down; they continue to be passed down until they are explicitly stated in a function signature (e.g., 'width' and 'fix' in ResizeReads()). Valerie On 08/06/2014 11:35 AM, Ryan wrote: Ok, I had a look at the code, and I think understand now. The help text for the "..." argument says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such assingleEnd,fragmentsorparamthat apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." But this is actually referring to the fixed set of individual arguments listed below the dots. It doesn't apply to the arguments that actually get matched by "..." in a call to summarizeOverlaps. These actually get passed straight to preprocess.reads. Perhaps the documentaion for "..." should be updated to reflect this? On Wed Aug 6 11:21:20 2014, Valerie Obenchain wrote: Hi Ryan, On 08/05/2014 05:47 PM, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi again, I'm looking at the examples in the summarizeOverlaps help page here: http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/devel/bioc/manuals/GenomicAlignments/man/GenomicAlignments.pdf And the examples fod preprocess.reads are a little confusing. One of the examples passes some additional "..." options to summarizeOverlaps, and implies that these will be passed along as the "..." arguments to the proprocess.reads function: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads, width=1, fix="end") The width and fix arguments are implied to be passed through to ResizeReads, but I don't see it documented anywhere how this would be done. This is standard use of '...'. See the ?'...' and ?dotsMethods man pages. I've added a sentence in \arguments clarifying that '...' can encompass arguments called by any subsequent function/method. The summarizeOverlaps documentation for "..." says "Additional arguments for BAM file methods such as singleEnd, fragments or param that apply to the reading of records from a file (see below)." I don't see anything about passing through to preprocess.reads. Incidentally, this is why my original example used a function that constructed a closure with these arguments already bound. I would write the example like this to ensure no ambiguity in argument passing (pay attention to parens): The 'resize.args' variable below captures all variables that exist in the .dispatchOverlaps() helper, many of which don't need to be passed to resize(). The 'preprocess.reads' function can be written this way or it can have default values in the signature as I've done in the man page example. Valerie ResizeReads <- function(mode, ...) { resize.args <- list(...) function(reads) { reads <- as(reads, "GRanges") ## Need strandedness stopifnot(all(strand(reads) != "*")) do.call(resize, c(list(x=reads), resize.args)) } } ## By default ResizeReads() counts reads that overlap on the 5 end: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads()) ## Count reads that overlap on the 3 end by passing new values ## for width and fix: summarizeOverlaps(grl, reads, mode=Union, preprocess.reads=ResizeReads(width=1, fix="end")) Anyway, I don't have the devel version of R handy to test this out, so I don't know if what I've described is a problem in practice. But I think that either the preprocess.reads function should be required to only take one argument, or else the method of passing through additional arguments to it should be documented. -Ryan On Tue 05 Aug 2014 05:12:41 PM PDT, Ryan C. Thompson wrote: Hi Valerie, I got really busy around May and never got a chance to thank you for adding this option to summarizeOverlaps! So thank you! -Ryan On Thu 01 May 2014 04:25:33 PM PDT, Valerie Obenchain wr