[bitcoin-dev] BIP68: Relative lock-time through consensus-enforced sequence numbers (update)

2015-11-21 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
As I am sure you are aware, for the last 5 months work has been on-going to
create a relative lock-time proposal using sequence numbers. The
implementation can be found at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6312.
The current implementation is "mempool-only" and the soft-fork would be
deployed at a later stage.

Over these months there has been various discussion back and forth to
refine the details.

I have updated the BIP text now according to the details that were
discussed in mid-October[1][2] and have extensively clarified the text.

To recap, the overall picture for relative lock-time is that BIP68
introduces consensus rules using some of the nSequence field, while BIP112
creates a new opcode OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY (PR #6564) so relative
lock-time can be verified from the Bitcoin scripting language. Ideally we
would soft-fork BIP68, BIP112 (CSV) and 113 (MTP) together. BIP113 has been
deployed in 0.11.2 as mempool policy so miners should be applying this
policy as they deploy version 4 blocks for the ongoing CLTV soft-fork
(currently at 42% at the time of writing).

I am writing this mail to draw your attention to the BIP68 pull-requests
and to request final review at:

BIP68 text - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/245
BIP68 implementation - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6312

Discussion references:
[1]
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-October/011357.html
[2] http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/10/15#l1444928045.0
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamic Hierarchical Deterministic Key Trees

2015-11-21 Thread Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev

Tamas,

You could use a key for both signing and for derivation of a deeper 
level (and perhaps there are some applications for this, if you think of 
any please let me know), but the use cases being considered involve 
generation of signing key sequences from seeds that are easy to backup 
and easy to share with others to simplify multidevice synchronization, 
key management, account structures, etc... while also allowing for 
privacy by making it nontrivial to associate transactions for an account 
without knowing the seed/chain code.


As such, we generally refer to such sequences by a path to the immediate 
parent node in the tree and reserve the children themselves for the 
signing keys.



- Eric



-- Original Message --
From: "Tamas Blummer" 
To: "Eric Lombrozo" ; "Eric Lombrozo via 
bitcoin-dev" 

Sent: 11/17/2015 5:10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamic Hierarchical Deterministic Key Trees


Hi Eric,

Would you please enumerate, or point to, arguments that discourage the 
use of a key both for signing and for derivation of a deeper level of 
the hierarchy ?


Tamas Blummer

 On Nov 17, 2015, at 12:40, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev 
 wrote:


 I've submitted a BIP proposal that solves the issue of needing to 
predefine HD wallet structures and not being able to arbitrarily nest 
deeper levels. Comments appreciated.


 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/242


 - Eric
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