Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPs - notarization protocol and decentralized storage

2021-04-25 Thread Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev
On Wednesday 21 April 2021 04:26:26 Prayank via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Also since this involves LN, maybe it can just be a LN project instead of
> BIP? Not the best person to comment on what can be a BIP.

Anything that Bitcoin software would benefit in collaboration with other 
projects on qualifies.

Lightning itself really should be a series of BIPs.

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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPs - notarization protocol and decentralized storage

2021-04-21 Thread Christopher Gilliard via bitcoin-dev
Thanks Prayank. I think the next step for both of these proposals is to
define an API. I thought about including that in the BIPs and decided it
wasn't necessary yet to get the ideas across initially. Maybe when the APIs
are defined they could go into the BIP, but it's probably better to have in
a different document. I also agree with you on Tor.

As far as whether this should be a BIP or not, I wondered that same
question. I think the BIP format is well defined and understood so I used
it for this and the other BIPs that I'm currently working on like the
incentivized moderation protocol which is mentioned in this BIP. There are
a number of "Application" BIPs, which is why I decided it made sense.
However, if it's decided there's a better format for these BIPs I'm open to
it.

Regards,
Chris



On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:26 PM Prayank  wrote:

> Hello Christopher,
>
> Decentralized storage as an idea looks interesting. I am researching about
> similar things for one of my Bitcoin project. Although an implementation or
> proof of concept code in the BIP would have been better. Also since this
> involves LN, maybe it can just be a LN project instead of BIP? Not the best
> person to comment on what can be a BIP.
>
> Few links that you may find interesting:
>
> https://github.com/bkiac/tarnhelm
>
> https://github.com/ElementsProject/filebazaar
>
> The kind of decentralized storage that I think can be helpful for Bitcoin
> projects:
>
> 1.Uses torrents for files and communication required (with Tor)
>
> 2.Easy to use API to save, read, edit etc. something in a Bitcoin project
> using torrents. Only involve lightning network and payments when spamming
> can be an issue. For example: If a developer wants users to pay for every
> P2P offer they create using a DEX protocol.
>
> Projects that are exploring such options:
> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/415
>
> --
> Prayank
>
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPs - notarization protocol and decentralized storage

2021-04-21 Thread Prayank via bitcoin-dev
Hello Christopher,

Decentralized storage as an idea looks interesting. I am researching about 
similar things for one of my Bitcoin project. Although an implementation or 
proof of concept code in the BIP would have been better. Also since this 
involves LN, maybe it can just be a LN project instead of BIP? Not the best 
person to comment on what can be a BIP.

Few links that you may find interesting:

https://github.com/bkiac/tarnhelm

https://github.com/ElementsProject/filebazaar

The kind of decentralized storage that I think can be helpful for Bitcoin 
projects:

1.Uses torrents for files and communication required (with Tor)

2.Easy to use API to save, read, edit etc. something in a Bitcoin project using 
torrents. Only involve lightning network and payments when spamming can be an 
issue. For example: If a developer wants users to pay for every P2P offer they 
create using a DEX protocol.

Projects that are exploring such options: 
https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/415

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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPs - notarization protocol and decentralized storage protocol

2021-04-20 Thread Robert Spigler via bitcoin-dev
Hi Chris,

Very interested in this!

Never understood why a Storj/Sia couldn't just use Bitcoin/LN instead of an alt.

Robert Spigler

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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 1:07 PM, Christopher Gilliard via bitcoin-dev 
 wrote:

> I have created two additional BIPs that are associated with the BIP that I 
> sent to the mailing list last week. They can be found here:
>
> 1.) storage: https://github.com/cgilliard/bips/blob/storage/bip-.mediawiki
>
> 2.) notarization: 
> https://github.com/cgilliard/bips/blob/notarization-l2/bip-.mediawiki
>
> Let me know if there is any feedback or comments.
>
> Regards,
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[bitcoin-dev] BIPs - notarization protocol and decentralized storage protocol

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Gilliard via bitcoin-dev
I have created two additional BIPs that are associated with the BIP that I
sent to the mailing list last week. They can be found here:

1.) storage:
https://github.com/cgilliard/bips/blob/storage/bip-.mediawiki

2.) notarization:
https://github.com/cgilliard/bips/blob/notarization-l2/bip-.mediawiki

Let me know if there is any feedback or comments.

Regards,
Chris
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