Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags
I know I am 100% against what they are planning. They can LAW you to death and make sure people get out of the animal business. I keep good records on all my animals and pay enough for it now. I do not think I can afford anymore. oj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RBMuller Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:00 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags I really don't know about other states but when the NAIS is implemented the scrapies tags probably won't be used. We will all have to buy a $2 tag per animal that has a chip in it so it can be read by a scanner. Apparently there will another system for flocks of birds and swine. My understanding on the horses is that they will have a rice size implant next to the mane. This will cost around $25.00 for each horse, mule, donkey. The vet here used to pay 25 cents for each animal health certificate. Texas Animal Health now charges $5 per certificate. There will always be more laws enacted by the suits that only know an office and have no idea where the food that they eat comes from!!! Extremely frustrating and just downright scary. Rhonda - Original Message - From: helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags I use the small brass ear tags I get from Jeffers and have never had any problem with them yet. As Carol says, they are small and fit the delicate little ears of our sheep just perfectly. Helen You wrote; I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 or plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which would be better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] Tags
Here goes with my second attempt at posting--got the first one back. Turning off HTML was a new concept to me. We have been reading the letters and learning a lot. It is good to know there is support available since we know only one hair sheep person and one wooly raiser here. We've been on our hobby farm for two and a half years. We got started in hair sheep because we had been researching things to do with our new farm. At the time, our place was overrun with weeds and we had read that hairsheep were good foragers. We bought locally one Blackbelly (owner didn't know for sure but called her Barbado) and two other solid black, one with horns hair sheep (still aren't sure what breed or mix they are). Only one of the three bred ewes was. We sold one black ewe and our one black lamb. We soon decided we wanted to raise the Barbados Blackbelly and finally purchased three bred ewes in December from Carol Elkins after asking lots of questions by phone and e-mail and doing more internet research. We registered with BBSAI. All three girls are showing signs of soon coming lambs. Exciting! While placing our first order with Premier for our lambing kit, I accidentally found the brass lamb ear tags and applicator on the website. They are not listed in the 2006 printed catalog where I really expected to find them. Now that I think about it, Carol provided a link to the tags during the recent discussions--one mouse click and you're there. It was Issue 49 on 03/15/06. Eldon Cynthia Andersen Wild Rose Farm Hershey NE ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
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I have raised 28 bottle babies this year all starting in the house for the first couple months I still have 6 to go!. There is no gag and if you find one let me know! Every once in a while I get one who just wants attention and will cry till she's horse or looses her voice almost completely. If you feed some grain it seems to make them more thirsty as does mineral if it is out. I guess the salt and the corn/oats mix does this. Hope this works for you it has for us. Nancy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50
Questions: What is Scarpie? How do I get my flock tested? Does each animal need testing or just one? Please advise Thanks Jim fallis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:08 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 Send blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Julian Hale) 2. David in Oregon (Brad and Aimee Andrews) 3. How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? (Julian Hale) 4. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Cecil Bearden) 5. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (RBMuller) 6. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Johnson, Oneta) 7. Re: New Web site (Johnson, Oneta) 8. Tags (Eldon Andersen) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:12:38 -0800 From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 08:00 AM 3/15/2006, Carol J. Elkins wrote: (I suppose we should be glad our sheep have any ears at all. The folks raising La Mancha goats (which are earless) have an interesting dilemma. I believe they tattoo, which is REALLY a pain--literally.) Yes... I bought a La Mancha last year, and her tattoo is in the sensitive hairless area of the *underside of the tail*! That *had* to hurt! I don't plan on raising any myself, for that very reason. Julian -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brad and Aimee Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [blackbelly] David in Oregon To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow David you must live on the wet side of Oregon. We over here in the east have to pray and water like crazy to get something to grow in the summer. Brad -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:35:30 -0800 From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got two bottle lambs, almost 10 weeks old now. They're eating hay just fine, but they have not figured out the whole water thing, yet, so they still get bottles. I'd like to wean them, and get them acclimated to colder temperatures, but first they need to know how to drink water. Does anybody have any tips for me? Speaking of weaning, does anybody make a lamb sized gag? The little girl is driving me nuts... Thanks, Julian -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:18:30 -0600 From: Cecil Bearden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The sale barn I use uses a thin metal tag. so far it has stayed in my Blackbellies ears better than anything else. Including the new OK state tag.. I never removed the metal ones and they are in there going on 3 years.. Cecil in OKla - Original Message - From: Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags The only ear tag that works, in my opinion, is Premier's 2X tag. It has been approved for most states' mandatory tags. I think it is the plastic tag-wide style that you are referring to. Please check, however. Even so, these tags are not suitable for lamb ears because our sheep have very tiny and fragile ears at birth. Wait as long as possible before applying the tag, preferably until the lamb is 5-6 months old. To enable easy identification of lambs, use the small brass tags sold by Premier and apply shortly after birth. I have never lost one of these tags yet. Carol At 10:25 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 or plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which would be better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? Thanks in advance for your help! Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no
Re: [blackbelly] (no subject)
WOW 28 Bottle Babies! Just curious, are you raising lambs for a pet market, or pulling the moms for dairy purposes? Or do you pull the lambs so you can breed back the ewes faster? We had four bottle babies from our December lambing and now four from our February lambing. We have had 134 lambs born between the two lambings and they are still coming. Our bottle babies came from ewes that couldn't or wouldn't feed their lambs. Our favorite is called Precious since her mom and her triplet brothers died. The mom was a first timer and the babies were born premature. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Richardson Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:26 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] (no subject) I have raised 28 bottle babies this year all starting in the house for the first couple months I still have 6 to go!. There is no gag and if you find one let me know! Every once in a while I get one who just wants attention and will cry till she's horse or looses her voice almost completely. If you feed some grain it seems to make them more thirsty as does mineral if it is out. I guess the salt and the corn/oats mix does this. Hope this works for you it has for us. Nancy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink?
I had only one bottle lamb this year. I know I looked like an idiot out in the pasture on my hands and knees trying to look like I was grazing to teach the lamb how to graze. I know I looked like an idiot crouched down by the water trough with my nose hanging right above the water to teach the lamb how to drink. Did it work? Kinda. Did my husband accuse me of losing my mind? You bet. The easiest way is to put your bottle lamb with the other sheep.THEY will be your best teachers. It's kind of monkey see monkey do with these guys. From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:35:30 -0800 I've got two bottle lambs, almost 10 weeks old now. They're eating hay just fine, but they have not figured out the whole water thing, yet, so they still get bottles. I'd like to wean them, and get them acclimated to colder temperatures, but first they need to know how to drink water. Does anybody have any tips for me? Speaking of weaning, does anybody make a lamb sized gag? The little girl is driving me nuts... Thanks, Julian ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] New Photo Album
great pics Barb, nice rams. I might have to put a tire swing in with my ram. Dave Ohio - Original Message - From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: [blackbelly] New Photo Album I've started a PictureTrail album online for the sheep, and I have uploaded a couple of funny ones that might amuse folks. They can be seen at http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6650228 Regards, Barb Lee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
