Re: [blackbelly] Corsican vs. Blackbelly name

2006-12-07 Thread Johnson, Oneta 
Wow. Now I have a question. How old can I girls go and still have
healthy babies. I have asked other sheep (non bb) people and they tell
me they get rid of their ewes when they are between 7 to 9. If they can
go that long I have some nice producing ewes I am hanging on to. They
are 6 to 9.  oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Corsican vs. Blackbelly name

Carol:
first let me say that I am not arguing with your response.  Just an 
observation.  I have some sheep that seem to have reverted to the 
Corsican gene..  What I noted was that the Corsican had a thicker head 
from the jaw to the nose bridge  The Blackbelly has a slim and very 
pretty head in my opinion.  The Corsican is not as pretty.  I have one 
ewe that has had ewe lambs that look like Corsicans since she has become

older.  ( close to 20).  This pprobably due to the rams I have had and 
not her problem... 

The pictures of Corsicans that I have seen have a larger head than 
Blackbellies. 

Just my $0.02.

Cecil in OKla

Carol Elkins wrote:
 Not a dumb question at all. Corsican is a name used to describe
sheep 
 having the American Blackbelly coloration and horns. When the Barbados

 Blackbelly was crossed with Mouflon and Rambouillet to add horns for
trophy 
 hunters (creating what we refer to now as the American Blackbelly, a
game 
 rancher by the name of Thompson Temple gave it the name Corsican and

 added it to first record book he created in 1976. He bestowed exotic
names 
 to several other color combinations such as Hawaiian Black, Texas
Dall, 
 and Painted Desert.

 You'll hear the term Corsican used primarily in Texas, but it is,
for the 
 most part, an American Blackbelly.

 Carol


 On 12/6/2006 10:30:09 AM, william bartlett ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
   Time for a dumb question that has probably been ask
   before. What in the world is the differance between a
   blackbelly and a corsican.

 Carol Elkins
 Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
 (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
 Pueblo, Colorado
 http://www.critterhaven.biz
 T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the
 Barbados Blackbelly Online Store
http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep

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Re: [blackbelly] Corsican vs. Blackbelly name

2006-12-07 Thread william bartlett 
Well, since I've got the wasp nest stirred up, I might
as well swat it again. My ram, who is of fair size,
about 90 lbs. don't think my barn door could handle a
bigger ram. (he uses it for a battering ram, punching
bag). My question now is who carries the genetics for
the size of the horn. I know that, as has been stated,
nutrition plays an important part, but the man that I
got my start from said the horn genetic comes form the
ewe. I figured that he told me this becouse he was
selling me a ram with poor horns. But I have a ewe
that had ram lambs in the spring and fall. both had
wide, beautiful horns. The oldest had a length of 18
at one year. But just to show how my luck goes, I
bought two young ewes that come from big horn
genetics, they both had ewes this year! My other
question is about the roman nose on the rams, I've
noticed that some are much more pronounced than
others. Is this genetic too? Or from ramming one
another.



 

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Re: [blackbelly] blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 213

2006-12-07 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson 
What we call corsicans are anything with a yellow belly. We have black 
bellies, frosty backed blackbellies , and yellow bellies. They could have a 
black belly mom and yellow dad or be a yellow mom  yellow dad and still 
throw a black belly baby. You never know what you will get . Just my 2 
cents. Nancy  www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch
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   3. Re: Corsican vs. Blackbelly name (Carol J. Elkins)
   4. Re: Corsican vs. Blackbelly name (Barb Lee)
   5. Re: Corsican vs. Blackbelly name (Cecil Bearden)


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 Carol:
 first let me say that I am not arguing with your response.  Just an
 observation.  I have some sheep that seem to have reverted to the
 Corsican gene..  What I noted was that the Corsican had a thicker head
 from the jaw to the nose bridge  The Blackbelly has a slim and very
 pretty head in my opinion.  The Corsican is not as pretty.  I have one
 ewe that has had ewe lambs that look like Corsicans since she has become
 older.  ( close to 20).  This pprobably due to the rams I have had and
 not her problem...

 The pictures of Corsicans that I have seen have a larger head than
 Blackbellies.

 Just my $0.02.

 Cecil in OKla

 Carol Elkins wrote:
 Not a dumb question at all. Corsican is a name used to describe sheep
 having the American Blackbelly coloration and horns. When the Barbados
 Blackbelly was crossed with Mouflon and Rambouillet to add horns for 
 trophy
 hunters (creating what we refer to now as the American Blackbelly, a 
 game
 rancher by the name of Thompson Temple gave it the name Corsican and
 added it to first record book he created in 1976. He bestowed exotic 
 names
 to several other color combinations such as Hawaiian Black, Texas 
 Dall,
 and Painted Desert.

 You'll hear the term Corsican used primarily in Texas, but it is, for 
 the
 most part, an American Blackbelly.

 Carol


 On 12/6/2006 10:30:09 AM, william bartlett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Time for a dumb question that has probably been ask
   before. What in the world is the differance between a
   blackbelly and a corsican.

 Carol Elkins
 Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
 (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
 Pueblo, Colorado
 http://www.critterhaven.biz
 T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the
 Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep

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 Wow. Now I have a question. How old can I girls go and still have
 healthy babies. I have asked other sheep (non bb) people and they tell
 me they get rid of their ewes when they are between 7 to 9. If they can
 go that long I have some nice producing ewes I am hanging on to. They
 are 6 to 9.  oj

 Oneta Johnson
 McLoud Telephone Company
 Data Entry/CSR

 Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Cecil Bearden
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:14 PM
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Corsican vs. Blackbelly name

 Carol:
 first let me say that I am not arguing with your response.  Just an
 observation.  I have some sheep that seem to have reverted to the
 Corsican gene..  What I noted was that the Corsican had a thicker head
 from the jaw to the nose bridge  The Blackbelly has a slim and very
 pretty head in my opinion.  The Corsican is not as pretty.  I have one
 ewe that has had ewe lambs