Re: [blackbelly] Lamb replacer for Goat Kids

2007-03-03 Thread Paul & Renee Bailey
Hi Nancy,

I've fed lamb replacer to my kids before with no problems. I've heard that 
goats tend to get scours easier so I just made sure to add a little more 
water to the formula. I've included a few links below that I used in the 
past. I no longer have goats but when I had both I would just make sure to 
separate them once in a while to feed their  appropriate minerals, since the 
goat minerals have lots of copper. Good luck and have fun!

Here's an snip from a Sheep and Goat article (link below):

When artificially rearing lambs, it is recommended that they be fed milk 
replacer that has been specifically formulated for lambs. Calf milk replacer 
is generally unacceptable. Ewe's milk contains more fat, protein and 
minerals than cow's milk. In addition, the fat globules in lamb's milk are 
homogenized, and cow's milk contains excessive amounts of lactose that may 
cause bloat or digestive upset in lambs. Kids will also do better if they 
are fed milk replacer that has been specifically formulated for them. Goat 
milk contains more fat soluble vitamins and vitamin C than either ewe or cow 
milk. On the other hand, it is acceptable to rear lambs on fresh goat's 
milk.

Renee Bailey

http://www.sheepandgoat.com/articles/artificialfeeding.html

http://www.goatworld.com/





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Date:  Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:08:09 -0600
>Hello, I may have a baby goat kid that I have to bottle can anyone tell me
>if I can use lamb milk replacer or do I need special milk?I have never
>raised a goat before.

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Re: [blackbelly] blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 33

2007-03-03 Thread Nancy & Tom Richardson
Hello, I may have a baby goat kid that I have to bottle can anyone tell me 
if I can use lamb milk replacer or do I need special milk?I have never 
raised a goat before.  Thanks Nancy
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> Here is an update I received today from Cindy Stamer, sister to one
> of the two vets who were called in to help treat the Craig County
> blackbellies that were found starving. If you can help, this would be
> a good thing to do. There are contact numbers at the end of the
> article, and you can call the Kelley family (the folks who are caring
> for the sheep) at 918-244-5888, or write them at 26644 South 4360
> Road, Vinita, OK 74301. There also is a good article at
> http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=070225_Ne_A1_Anima30146
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> The following is a rough update based on notes from discussions I had
> recently with folks in Vinita.  I understand the Oklahoma Supreme
> Court is scheduled to hear the appeal later this month.  By then, I
> am told the county expects that it will have been required to expend
> more than $100,000 to care for and maintain the neglected animals, as
> the court ordered the county would keep the animals in its custody,
> but refused to enforce the provision of the new Oklahoma animal
> cruelty law that would have required Mr.  Bell to post bond to cover
> the costs of maintaining the animals pending the appeal as a
> condition of his appeal.  See the following:
>
> Craig County, Oklahoma officials need donations to pay costs of
> caring for 1250 Barbado sheep, 300 cows and 12 horses seized by the
> Craig County Sheriff's Department in connection with the largest
> criminal animal abuse investigation in U.S.  history.  Craig County
> Sheriff Jimmy Sooter says there is no money in the county's budget to
> pay the more than $50,000 of expenses the county has incurred for
> care of the animals since his department seized the animals last
> month, or additional costs that will be required to maintain them
> while the Oklahoma courts decide the animals' fate.
>
> "Our biggest problem right now is money.  There is no money budgeted
> for a situation like this.  We are in need of donations for food and
> grain and hay to feed these animals," says Sooter.
>
> Craig County officials seized the animals between January 17 and
> January 23 after sheriff deputies found the animals among 800 other
> dead or dying sheep on four separate properties of owner David
> Bradley Bell. Bell and his wife Tanya, presently are facing multiple
> animal neglect and cruelty charges, according to Craig County
> Assistant District Attorney Jim Ely.  Deputies discovered hundreds of
> dead, dying and starving animals while investigating reports of
> neglected animals on Bell properties.  Craig County Sheriff Deputy
> Robin Livingston says graphic pictures posted on the websites of the
> U.S.  Humane Society at
> http://multimedia.hsus.org/images/oklahoma-cruelty.html and at
> www.tulsaworld.com/deadsheep provide only a limited glimpse into the
> horrible conditions sheriff department deputies found.  Livingston
> said they could see clearly see hundreds of dead and dying animals as
> they drove onto the property.  Deputies discovered stacks of dead and
> dying sheep strewn across the pastures, on a porch, stacked on top of
> each other in feed troughs and in a barn.  "It looked like a
> battlefield.  There were dead animals everywhere," she said.  Human
> society officials and local veterinarians called in to help
> investigate the case and care for the animals say that although cold
> may have hastened the death of many of these animals, but that the
> advanced decomposition of many of the carcasses establishes that
> neglect and abuse as the primary cause.  According to Livingston, it
> was immediately apparent to sheriff deputies that the animals that
> weren't already dead needed help.  "A