[Blackbelly] Cocci Control
Well, I looked in a lot of places, and asked questions in a few more The Cocci that sheep and goats deal with are pretty much resistant, and the only good, natural way to keep them under control is to manage pastures and herds in such a manner that the natural immunity that developes by being exposed to low numbers is permitted to develope within the animal. A strict MIG program is of use, as it helps reduce the number of infective larvae that have access to the animals by killing them off with cold, feeding by other animals ( chickens, cows, horses) and changes in the vegetative makeup of the paddocks. So, rotational grazing, intensive grazing, alternationg the use of the paddock between vegetative crop and pasture, etc, help keep things under control. one article did stress that one should not confuse one type of parasite egg with the oocysts of the cocci protozoans. basic H may very well be the way to go-- at least you can mess up the protective coating on the parasite.. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control
Hi Terry, Great stuff. The biggest problem with cocci for me at the moment is right inside the barn. Add to that, the need to keep the sheep off the pasture and in sacrifice areas for just the part of the year that favors cocci (in my particular program). Even though the paddock the lambs were in was rested all summer(UV rays are lethal), there are certain areas that just can't be adequately de-contaminated. I have had good success knocking the numbers down with Corid, but all the drugs are detrimental. Corid suppresses Thiamin, which I think is the same thing poisonous bracken fern does. Nobody is clinical yet, so when the Basic H comes, I'll see whether it does any good. Ah! here's a good bit of info...Immunity (resistance) occurs 3-4 weeks after exposure. So I'll keep an eye on things, and try the Basic H when it comes, if I don't need urgently to treat beforehand. Identifying cocci oocysts is extremely easy when you know what you're looking for. They are about 1/4 the size of an H. Contortus egg or less, and they look like a hard boiled egg sliced lengthwise, with a tiny little polar cap at the narrow end. They are the hardest of all the parasites to identify when one is first learning. Barb - Original Message - From: Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control Well, I looked in a lot of places, and asked questions in a few more The Cocci that sheep and goats deal with are pretty much resistant, and the only good, natural way to keep them under control is to manage pastures and herds in such a manner that the natural immunity that developes by being exposed to low numbers is permitted to develope within the animal. A strict MIG program is of use, as it helps reduce the number of infective larvae that have access to the animals by killing them off with cold, feeding by other animals ( chickens, cows, horses) and changes in the vegetative makeup of the paddocks. So, rotational grazing, intensive grazing, alternationg the use of the paddock between vegetative crop and pasture, etc, help keep things under control. one article did stress that one should not confuse one type of parasite egg with the oocysts of the cocci protozoans. basic H may very well be the way to go-- at least you can mess up the protective coating on the parasite.. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth
Thanks Dayna, Hopefully something a little less expensive is available. I am holding off until the Basic H comes...the lambs are not clinical and may be getting enough nutrition to be able to deal with the cocci without treatment, since they should be developing an immunity by this time. Barb - Original Message - From: Dayna Denmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] More on Diatomaceous Earth Barb, Check out the website wolfcreekranch.net to read about a holistic approach to cocci. I have not personally tried any of their products but since I am leaning towards raising sheep without chemicals I may try some. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] some interesting articles on parasite control
Thank you for those links, Terry, especially the second one. Barb - Original Message - From: Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: [Blackbelly] some interesting articles on parasite control www.abdn.ac.uk/organic/organic_14a.php www.abdn.ac.uk/organic/organic_34.php I was looking for Cocci in particular, but found these to be nice reads-- the research methods check out to have been done in a reliable manner, though the numbers of subjects used was small. Sometimes that cannot be helped. Terry W Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
