Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium

2007-12-15 Thread Asylum Farm
Barb- if I remember correctly, to supplement sulfur you should ideally add 
methionine.  And the requirements were that 0.4mg was an acceptable level.

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Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium

2007-12-15 Thread Barb Lee
Thanks Shel!

This sounds like a keen interest for you too!

Our sulphur levels in the feed are averaging around 0.11 mg.  I am going 
to be adding a horse product called Gen-A-Horse to the sheeps' feed 
which is biotin, another sulphur bearing compound, and zinc methionine. 
I may have the sulphur dilemma nailed!

Reading more, I guess that sulphur isn't a common supplement because a 
lot of drinking water contains sulphates and some byproduct type feeds 
are also high in sulphur, so apparently excess is more of a problem than 
deficiency.

Barb

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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Barb- if I remember correctly, to supplement sulfur you should ideally 
 add methionine.  And the requirements were that 0.4mg was an 
 acceptable level.

 Shel







 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium

2007-12-15 Thread blueberryfarm
I have enjoyed reading all these posts on nutrition, but they make me 
feel very inadequate.  Am I not treating my blackbellies well?  I simply 
put them out to pasture, fertilize once in the summer and again in the 
late fall when I put out my winter rye.  They get granulated mineral ad 
lib and nothing else.  I monitor their droppings for eggs and their load 
is light so I do not worm them and they lamb every 7 or 8 months, but I 
have not yet had any twins.  I  have trained them to a feed bucket and a 
vocal call, but they get a taste of the feed bucket only maybe once a 
month.  They are a joy to have and to watch but require very little 
maintenance in my part of the country, if one is satisfied with single 
births.

Jerry
Picayune, Mississippi

- Original Message - 
From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Thanks Shel!

 This sounds like a keen interest for you too!

 Our sulphur levels in the feed are averaging around 0.11 mg.  I am 
 going
 to be adding a horse product called Gen-A-Horse to the sheeps' feed
 which is biotin, another sulphur bearing compound, and zinc 
 methionine.
 I may have the sulphur dilemma nailed!

 Reading more, I guess that sulphur isn't a common supplement because a
 lot of drinking water contains sulphates and some byproduct type feeds
 are also high in sulphur, so apparently excess is more of a problem 
 than
 deficiency.

 Barb

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 From: Asylum Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Barb- if I remember correctly, to supplement sulfur you should 
 ideally
 add methionine.  And the requirements were that 0.4mg was an
 acceptable level.

 Shel








 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium

2007-12-15 Thread Barb Lee
Jerry,
You are not inadequate, you are fortunate.  I am sorry if my carrying-on 
has made you feel bad, because I am only compelled to share my 
discoveries for the pleasure of sharing them.  Winter rye is 
exceptionally high energy grass and they say that when the energy 
requirements are met, usually the protein falls into place.  What you 
are enjoying with your sheep is as it should be!!  All requirements 
generously provided by Mother Nature and a good shepherd!

Believe me, if anyone feels inadequate, it is me, for not being able to 
share this kind of good fortune.  I feel like a BAD shepherd because I 
have been constantly challenged.  I have nearly given up many many 
times.   Hey, I live on the side of a volcanic vent!  Not prime real 
estate for agriculture!  :o)

The only reason I blabber on so much is in the hope that some mysterious 
something will click with another person and they may see in my 
discoveries a possible solution to their own problem.  I promise I'll 
give it a rest.  I've been making my own self crazy lately anyway.

Kindest regards,
Barb
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From: blueberryfarm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


I have enjoyed reading all these posts on nutrition, but they make me
 feel very inadequate.  Am I not treating my blackbellies well?  I 
 simply
 put them out to pasture, fertilize once in the summer and again in the
 late fall when I put out my winter rye.  They get granulated mineral 
 ad
 lib and nothing else.  I monitor their droppings for eggs and their 
 load
 is light so I do not worm them and they lamb every 7 or 8 months, but 
 I
 have not yet had any twins.  I  have trained them to a feed bucket and 
 a
 vocal call, but they get a taste of the feed bucket only maybe once a
 month.  They are a joy to have and to watch but require very little
 maintenance in my part of the country, if one is satisfied with single
 births.

 Jerry
 Picayune, Mississippi

 - Original Message - 
 From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Thanks Shel!

 This sounds like a keen interest for you too!

 Our sulphur levels in the feed are averaging around 0.11 mg.  I am
 going
 to be adding a horse product called Gen-A-Horse to the sheeps' feed
 which is biotin, another sulphur bearing compound, and zinc
 methionine.
 I may have the sulphur dilemma nailed!

 Reading more, I guess that sulphur isn't a common supplement because 
 a
 lot of drinking water contains sulphates and some byproduct type 
 feeds
 are also high in sulphur, so apparently excess is more of a problem
 than
 deficiency.

 Barb

 - Original Message - 
 From: Asylum Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Barb- if I remember correctly, to supplement sulfur you should
 ideally
 add methionine.  And the requirements were that 0.4mg was an
 acceptable level.

 Shel








 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium

2007-12-15 Thread Stephanie Parrish
Jerry,

To what do you attribute your sheeps' low fecal egg counts?  Are the  
sheep grazed with other species?   Do you rotate their pastures?  Are  
there just a few animals on a lot of pasture?  I'd love to know how you  
manage this, as most people in the SE tend to have more problems with  
parasites in their sheep.  I know that we have had a few more problems  
with parasites here in SC than we did further north in MD.

Stephanie Parrish
Westminster, SC

On Dec 15, 2007, at 8:34 PM, blueberryfarm wrote:

 I have enjoyed reading all these posts on nutrition, but they make me
 feel very inadequate.  Am I not treating my blackbellies well?  I  
 simply
 put them out to pasture, fertilize once in the summer and again in the
 late fall when I put out my winter rye.  They get granulated mineral ad
 lib and nothing else.  I monitor their droppings for eggs and their  
 load
 is light so I do not worm them and they lamb every 7 or 8 months, but I
 have not yet had any twins.  I  have trained them to a feed bucket and  
 a
 vocal call, but they get a taste of the feed bucket only maybe once a
 month.  They are a joy to have and to watch but require very little
 maintenance in my part of the country, if one is satisfied with single
 births.

 Jerry
 Picayune, Mississippi

 - Original Message -
 From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Thanks Shel!

 This sounds like a keen interest for you too!

 Our sulphur levels in the feed are averaging around 0.11 mg.  I am
 going
 to be adding a horse product called Gen-A-Horse to the sheeps' feed
 which is biotin, another sulphur bearing compound, and zinc
 methionine.
 I may have the sulphur dilemma nailed!

 Reading more, I guess that sulphur isn't a common supplement because a
 lot of drinking water contains sulphates and some byproduct type feeds
 are also high in sulphur, so apparently excess is more of a problem
 than
 deficiency.

 Barb

 - Original Message -
 From: Asylum Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Selenium


 Barb- if I remember correctly, to supplement sulfur you should
 ideally
 add methionine.  And the requirements were that 0.4mg was an
 acceptable level.

 Shel








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