[Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)

2007-12-19 Thread Carol J. Elkins
We all have sheep who, for one reason or another, need to be 
euthanized. In most cases, it is old age or health issues such as the 
recent post about horn growth endangering the animal's quality of 
life. I've eaten blackbelly ram as old as 2.5 years, and although the 
meat tasted marvelous, the connecting tissue was very tough, making 
the overall eating experience not much fun at all. So now when I must 
euthanize an old sheep, I try to find a buyer for the meat at the 
local raw pet food Yahoo groups.

They are always eager to get any meat as long as it costs less than 
about $1.00 per pound. They are happy with 5-lb chunks and nothing 
has to resemble a professional cut. I butcher on farm, which allows 
me to keep most of that $1.00/lb, but it would still be worth these 
people's time if they wanted the meat cut and wrapped at the butcher 
shop. I just wouldn't get much profit. But if it is a choice between 
almost giving a carcass away versus having to dig a really big hole 
to bury it in, I opt for selling the meat at whatever cost. I also 
target the raw pet food market for cull sheep and (unfortunately) ram 
lambs that I simply do not have enough pasture to raise to butchering weight.

To find raw pet food Yahoo groups in your vicinity, go to 
http://groups.yahoo.com and search for carnivore+food or 
carnivore+raw or similar terms. Add your state name to the search 
string to narrow the results to your region.

One of these days, I hope to be able to switch my own pets to a 
totally raw diet, but it would need to include more than just lamb; 
I'd need to mix in chicken and whatever other meats I could get for 
cheap. Right now, I don't have time to scavenge for pet food. But 
there sure are a lot of people out there who are willing to find the time.

Carol

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Re: [Blackbelly] Anti-NAIS article in The Nation magazine

2007-12-19 Thread Terry
excellent-- and considering, that  when I met karin
Bergener in person, she was real vague herself, not
understanding the real way viruses mutate Her reply to a
question asked at that meeting_ If someone told me my
flock had AI, I would not hesitate to depopulate it
 terry W


--- Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excellent article in The Nation about NAIS. Provides a
 thoughtful, 
 unemotional summary of its costs and consequences.
 
 http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071231/pentland_gumpert
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)

2007-12-19 Thread Terry
CArol, 
 I actually belong to a couple Raw feeder lists in my
area-- On one, they 'take orders' and everybody gathers at
a specific location for the delivery/pickup.  One of my
'rabbit neighbors' from PA actually has a business making
raw food-- called 'Hare Today'--and yes, the raw feeders
want to pay less per pound, but they can be a reliable
source of income.

 terry W


--- Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We all have sheep who, for one reason or another, need to
 be 
 euthanized. In most cases, it is old age or health issues
 such as the 
 recent post about horn growth endangering the animal's
 quality of 
 life. I've eaten blackbelly ram as old as 2.5 years, and
 although the 
 meat tasted marvelous, the connecting tissue was very
 tough, making 
 the overall eating experience not much fun at all. So now
 when I must 
 euthanize an old sheep, I try to find a buyer for the
 meat at the 
 local raw pet food Yahoo groups.
 
 They are always eager to get any meat as long as it costs
 less than 
 about $1.00 per pound. They are happy with 5-lb chunks
 and nothing 
 has to resemble a professional cut. I butcher on farm,
 which allows 
 me to keep most of that $1.00/lb, but it would still be
 worth these 
 people's time if they wanted the meat cut and wrapped at
 the butcher 
 shop. I just wouldn't get much profit. But if it is a
 choice between 
 almost giving a carcass away versus having to dig a
 really big hole 
 to bury it in, I opt for selling the meat at whatever
 cost. I also 
 target the raw pet food market for cull sheep and
 (unfortunately) ram 
 lambs that I simply do not have enough pasture to raise
 to butchering weight.
 
 To find raw pet food Yahoo groups in your vicinity, go to
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com and search for carnivore+food or 
 carnivore+raw or similar terms. Add your state name to
 the search 
 string to narrow the results to your region.
 
 One of these days, I hope to be able to switch my own
 pets to a 
 totally raw diet, but it would need to include more than
 just lamb; 
 I'd need to mix in chicken and whatever other meats I
 could get for 
 cheap. Right now, I don't have time to scavenge for pet
 food. But 
 there sure are a lot of people out there who are willing
 to find the time.
 
 Carol
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)

2007-12-19 Thread Barb Lee
Here in Oregon, you're required to have a pet food seller's license to 
sell direct to the customer.

Barb L.

- Original Message - 
From: Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)


 CArol,
 I actually belong to a couple Raw feeder lists in my
 area-- On one, they 'take orders' and everybody gathers at
 a specific location for the delivery/pickup.  One of my
 'rabbit neighbors' from PA actually has a business making
 raw food-- called 'Hare Today'--and yes, the raw feeders
 want to pay less per pound, but they can be a reliable
 source of income.

 terry W


 --- Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We all have sheep who, for one reason or another, need to
 be
 euthanized. In most cases, it is old age or health issues
 such as the
 recent post about horn growth endangering the animal's
 quality of
 life. I've eaten blackbelly ram as old as 2.5 years, and
 although the
 meat tasted marvelous, the connecting tissue was very
 tough, making
 the overall eating experience not much fun at all. So now
 when I must
 euthanize an old sheep, I try to find a buyer for the
 meat at the
 local raw pet food Yahoo groups.

 They are always eager to get any meat as long as it costs
 less than
 about $1.00 per pound. They are happy with 5-lb chunks
 and nothing
 has to resemble a professional cut. I butcher on farm,
 which allows
 me to keep most of that $1.00/lb, but it would still be
 worth these
 people's time if they wanted the meat cut and wrapped at
 the butcher
 shop. I just wouldn't get much profit. But if it is a
 choice between
 almost giving a carcass away versus having to dig a
 really big hole
 to bury it in, I opt for selling the meat at whatever
 cost. I also
 target the raw pet food market for cull sheep and
 (unfortunately) ram
 lambs that I simply do not have enough pasture to raise
 to butchering weight.

 To find raw pet food Yahoo groups in your vicinity, go to

 http://groups.yahoo.com and search for carnivore+food or
 carnivore+raw or similar terms. Add your state name to
 the search
 string to narrow the results to your region.

 One of these days, I hope to be able to switch my own
 pets to a
 totally raw diet, but it would need to include more than
 just lamb;
 I'd need to mix in chicken and whatever other meats I
 could get for
 cheap. Right now, I don't have time to scavenge for pet
 food. But
 there sure are a lot of people out there who are willing
 to find the time.

 Carol

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2007-12-19 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
Sorry I put the link to our site wrong. www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch 
Thanks for looking Nancy 

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Re: [Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)

2007-12-19 Thread Cecil Bearden
Carol wrote about using raw meat for domestic animals.  Since I have a 
veterinarian close, I mentioned this to him.  He said that under no 
circumstances would he feed raw meat to any of his animals.  Cooked is 
fine, but raw has just too many  problems that can be cured by cooking. 

Tha analogy he used is How many 15 year old coyotes have you seen?

Cecil in OKla

Barb Lee wrote:
 Here in Oregon, you're required to have a pet food seller's license to 
 sell direct to the customer.

 Barb L.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Euthanizing (was: problem with ram horns)


   
 CArol,
 I actually belong to a couple Raw feeder lists in my
 area-- On one, they 'take orders' and everybody gathers at
 a specific location for the delivery/pickup.  One of my
 'rabbit neighbors' from PA actually has a business making
 raw food-- called 'Hare Today'--and yes, the raw feeders
 want to pay less per pound, but they can be a reliable
 source of income.

 terry W


 --- Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 We all have sheep who, for one reason or another, need to
 be
 euthanized. In most cases, it is old age or health issues
 such as the
 recent post about horn growth endangering the animal's
 quality of
 life. I've eaten blackbelly ram as old as 2.5 years, and
 although the
 meat tasted marvelous, the connecting tissue was very
 tough, making
 the overall eating experience not much fun at all. So now
 when I must
 euthanize an old sheep, I try to find a buyer for the
 meat at the
 local raw pet food Yahoo groups.

 They are always eager to get any meat as long as it costs
 less than
 about $1.00 per pound. They are happy with 5-lb chunks
 and nothing
 has to resemble a professional cut. I butcher on farm,
 which allows
 me to keep most of that $1.00/lb, but it would still be
 worth these
 people's time if they wanted the meat cut and wrapped at
 the butcher
 shop. I just wouldn't get much profit. But if it is a
 choice between
 almost giving a carcass away versus having to dig a
 really big hole
 to bury it in, I opt for selling the meat at whatever
 cost. I also
 target the raw pet food market for cull sheep and
 (unfortunately) ram
 lambs that I simply do not have enough pasture to raise
 to butchering weight.

 To find raw pet food Yahoo groups in your vicinity, go to

 http://groups.yahoo.com and search for carnivore+food or
 carnivore+raw or similar terms. Add your state name to
 the search
 string to narrow the results to your region.

 One of these days, I hope to be able to switch my own
 pets to a
 totally raw diet, but it would need to include more than
 just lamb;
 I'd need to mix in chicken and whatever other meats I
 could get for
 cheap. Right now, I don't have time to scavenge for pet
 food. But
 there sure are a lot of people out there who are willing
 to find the time.

 Carol

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