Re: [Blackbelly] Alfalfa

2009-10-26 Thread Cecil Bearden
Bloat will be the first problem.  Grazing when the dew is still on the 
plant is reportedly a cause of bloat  I would use this as hay and 
not graze it green.  Every time I have tried to give my girls some lush 
growth, it proved detrimental.  I would make sure that my 
tetanus/overeating vaccinations were up to date, as this will be a major 
problem.  I lost 2 last month by putting out protein tubs.  It rained 
and they got the supplement and the new lush growth of grass and 2 died 
from tetanus/overeating.


Save your alfalfa hay for your new mamas...

Cecil in OKla

Michael Smith wrote:

I'm going to plant one of my fenced pens with alfalfa. In northern
California, it should grow like mad thru the winter and be 18 tall by
spring.  I have a sickle mower and can harvest it, but was wondering
what the group's experience with grazing sheep on live alfalfa, under
controlled conditions.

I could, for instance, give them, say, an hour a day on it. It will be
about 10 animals on 1/2 acre, so I doubt they could do much to eat the
plants to the ground in 1 hour a day, for instance.

Our place is green with new grass already, and I have dry hay from the
summer to feed them as well, but right now, they are mostly eating
green grass and green ground-cover.

I know alfalfa can be detrimental if they eat too much of it when it's
green. Looking to see if anyone has any experience with this.

_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
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Re: [Blackbelly] Alfalfa

2009-10-26 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:38 PM 10/25/2009, you wrote:
I'm going to plant one of my fenced pens with alfalfa. In northern
California, it should grow like mad thru the winter and be 18 tall by
spring.  I have a sickle mower and can harvest it, but was wondering
what the group's experience with grazing sheep on live alfalfa, under
controlled conditions.

I could, for instance, give them, say, an hour a day on it. It will be
about 10 animals on 1/2 acre, so I doubt they could do much to eat the
plants to the ground in 1 hour a day, for instance.

Our place is green with new grass already, and I have dry hay from the
summer to feed them as well, but right now, they are mostly eating
green grass and green ground-cover.

I know alfalfa can be detrimental if they eat too much of it when it's
green. Looking to see if anyone has any experience with this.

The main problem with grazing a pure legume stand is bloat.  Some ruminant 
raisers get around this with ant-bloat drugs, and some don't seem to have a 
problem.  I had the idea of filling a stock tank with water treated with plenty 
of Basic H, that should prevent bloat.  But when grazing in the winter they 
probably won't drink from the tank much at all.  If you can get some grass to 
grow(winter rye?) with the alfalfa, that should also prevent bloat.

I envy you the winter grazing opportunity... last year we had 4ft of packed 
snow on the ground, and had enough trouble just putting hay out(let alone 
keeping the hay shelter standing!).  I have no idea what will happen this 
winter!

Julian  

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