We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. We started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son "Junior" and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his sisters and then the young ones. We did this twice and then used a son of his "Zaggy" a couple of times. We have pretty well acheived our horn look. Every so often we get tight horns but for the most part all are open some more than others. The widest we keep for trophy stock. Hopefully at 3 to 4 years we will be able to sell them for hunting/breeding stock. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
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  1. Subject:  "Line" breeding (Michael Smith)


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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:24:57 -0800
From: Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com>
To: blackbelly <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Subject: [Blackbelly] Subject:  "Line" breeding
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Interesting subject, especially using Mouflons to get horns in ABBs
(which I have heard before). No one out here in California appears to
have Mouflons. I'd love to buy some, if I could find them local.

Here in California, the breeders I've been getting ABBs from tend to
talk about "Painted Desert" sheep being bred in, to get horns. The
undesirable traits you get from them, tend to be the white-ish, patchy
coats, like this ewe I bought, not so much for breeding, just as a
pet:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM#5242312330560955538

her parents have the traits, of course, and you can see "Barbado
sheep" (as they always call them) like this all around California.

http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM#5239254141459622306

http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM#5239254148708487762

but you will still hear people call them "Barbado", even though they
don't always look it.

In California, I think there's very little interest in actually
breeding polled Barbado (Which I have never found, here) or horned
American Blackbellies, for any kind of breed/looks consistency. Aside
from myself, I am the only one I know who is working on it in the
North Bay Area. Everyone else does it to train their dogs, for market
or for lawnmowing, but I haven't met anyone interested in breeding for
any looks or traits.

her brother was actually an interesting outcome, with his Painted
Desert patches on his face and legs, but otherwise black belly and
brown socks. He was unfortunately, weathered, and then, ended up at
market.  I thought he was an interesting specimen, even though he did
not look ABB.

http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM#5242312383096529250



_Michael


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