Re: [Blackbelly] Growth Rate for American Blackbelly Sheep

2009-12-10 Thread Julian Hale
At 06:44 PM 12/9/2009, blueberryfarm wrote:
Fellow Shepherds,

I have 5 ABB wethers that were born in February.  Their weights now range 
between 34 and 53 pounds.  They have always been pasture fed,
except for some occasional sweet feed  to keep them trained to the bucket.

Do you'll experience similar variation in growth weights?  Are these weights 
in the normal range for 9-10 month wethers?

I appreciate your comments.

Jerry Kirby
Windmill Farms LLC
Picayune, MS 

In general, yes.  There is a lot of variation in growth rate and maximum size 
in ABBs.  A few breeders have taken on the task of weeding out the smaller and 
slower growing animals(and parents) from their gene pools, and have been 
rewarded with larger, faster growing animals.  It takes time, but the rewards 
are there.  Just don't overlook the overall quality and structure of the animal 
while focusing on growth and size.

Julian 

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Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 170

2009-12-10 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
As some of you know we also have a 1/2 racka ram that we just started using 
and have about a dozen babies on the ground now . If you look at our website 
you will see him and a few of the recent babies. 
www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch  We started breeding for the open horns 
before knowing that we could get racka here in this country via the AI 
program. But it does take several years to do any breeding. But with our 
open horns we are hoping to get the upright horns at some point. Nancy
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:34 -0800
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:20:26 -0600
From: Nancy  Tom Richardson cjarr...@centurytel.net

We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. 
We

started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
Junior and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his
sisters and then the young ones. We did this twice and then used a son of
his Zaggy a couple of times. We have pretty well acheived our horn look.
Every so often we get tight horns but for the most part all are open some
more than others. The widest we keep for trophy stock. Hopefully at 3  to 
4

years we will be able to sell them for hunting/breeding stock. Nancy




Nancy, your Ram's interesting horn growth reminds me of Racka sheep.

http://www.sheep101.info/Images/Racka.jpg

Do you know if you have any Racka in your sheep? (sorry if it's been
answered before)

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:21:43 -0800
From: Rick Krach rickkr...@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] pictures
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Thanks, Michael. ?I really love to see pictures like that of other 
people's ranches!You had frost, we had snow and I got 700 hundred of 
pictures of it. When I get them limited down to a decent size I'll put 
that posting here, too.




Rick Krach
 Auburn, CA 95602






So, if anyone else has more pictures of their places, add them to the 
list, too. ?Thanks,


Rick Krach
 Auburn, CA 95602




Rick, I we had a nice-looking frost yesterday and still some Autumn
colors, so here's the small posting.

http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/2009_bottle_lambs/Autumn_2009.html

all shot with my old Casio Exilm pocket camera.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies




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Fellow Shepherds,

I have 5 ABB wethers that were born in February.  Their weights now range
between 34 and 53 pounds.  They have always been pasture fed, except for
some occasional sweet feed  to keep them trained to the bucket.

Do you'll experience similar variation in growth weights?  Are these 
weights

in the normal range for 9-10 month wethers?

I appreciate your comments.

Jerry Kirby
Windmill Farms LLC
Picayune, MS



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:40:36 -0800
From: Julian Hale jbh...@comcast.net
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[Blackbelly] racka blackbelly

2009-12-10 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
I also forgot to mention that we have the open long horn but this has got to 
go Up and also sprial tightly to look like the racka pictured. Some Rackas 
also go more out like our Brewsky which I show on our site. This is going 
to take saving alot of  ewe lambs and rams since we don't know exactly what 
they will do until older as far as the curl. Plus ewes have to be at least 2 
and have had a set of lambs before they can be AI'd. So we want to make sure 
what traits they can through before the expense of this proceedure. Thanks 
for looking at our sheep. Nancy
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  2. Re: pictures (Rick Krach)
  3. Growth Rate for American Blackbelly Sheep (blueberryfarm)
  4. Re: Growth Rate for American Blackbelly Sheep (Julian Hale)


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:34 -0800
From: Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] line breeding
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:20:26 -0600
From: Nancy  Tom Richardson cjarr...@centurytel.net

We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. 
We

started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
Junior and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his
sisters and then the young ones. We did this twice and then used a son of
his Zaggy a couple of times. We have pretty well acheived our horn look.
Every so often we get tight horns but for the most part all are open some
more than others. The widest we keep for trophy stock. Hopefully at 3  to 
4

years we will be able to sell them for hunting/breeding stock. Nancy




Nancy, your Ram's interesting horn growth reminds me of Racka sheep.

http://www.sheep101.info/Images/Racka.jpg

Do you know if you have any Racka in your sheep? (sorry if it's been
answered before)

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.





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