Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

2010-06-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Michael Smith wrote:


Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:24:41 -0700
From: Michael Smith 
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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

Peter, you made the below comment, and I finally took the time to post
some pics I took last week, which show the same amount of peeling
coats, for Northern California.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/sheep/12558854_cvPzu#901314437_2Vu65

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Peter C. Wallace  wrote:






Wondering when our ~1.5 year old Am Blackbelly sheep will lose their wool
they've lost it around their necks and part of their backs and so look
fairly ridiculous (it hasn't been very warm yet in the Bay Area so I still
have hope)

Peter Wallace


Our girls are decidely more ratty looking, maybe because of the thistles and 
bedstraw that get into their wool. I'll try and put some pictures up later 
this week. The little bit of hot weather we've had over the weekend started 
some more peeling so some look like they have dreadlocks, with a new sheep 
coming out from the mess. Their new unfaded dark colors look especially vivid 
compared to the ratty grey-beige wool.



Peter & Kathy
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Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Smith
Peter, you made the below comment, and I finally took the time to post
some pics I took last week, which show the same amount of peeling
coats, for Northern California.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/sheep/12558854_cvPzu#901314437_2Vu65

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Peter C. Wallace  wrote:
>

>
> Wondering when our ~1.5 year old Am Blackbelly sheep will lose their wool
> they've lost it around their necks and part of their backs and so look
> fairly ridiculous (it hasn't been very warm yet in the Bay Area so I still
> have hope)
>
> Peter Wallace
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Re: [Blackbelly] Copper

2010-06-14 Thread RBMuller
To all of you that worried about copper.  I have always put out a dry goat 
mineral for my hair sheep.  They also had access to a cattle mineral block 
which they did use at times.

I have not had any toxicity problems.
TX may be one of those states that doesn't have copper naturally, I don't 
know.
You have to remember that hair sheep have different requirements than wool 
sheep.

Thank you,
Rhonda
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Swindell" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Copper


Several years ago my friend and blackbelly sheep breeder Barb Lee posted 
quite a bit of correspondence to this e-mail list regarding some 
nutritional problems she was seeing in her sheep.  She concluded that her 
sheep were actually suffering from a copper deficiency, and she had quite 
a bit of data to back up that conclusion.  Her sheep began to improve once 
she added an appropriate level of copper as a supplement to their diet. 
It was very interesting because like Carla's note below, Barb said 
essentially that because copper-free sheep diets have been promoted so 
heavily, many sheep breeders overlook the fact that their flocks can 
sometimes actually be suffering from too LITTLE copper.  I do not know if 
Barb is still subscribed to this e-mail list, but if you are Barb, it 
would be very helpful if you could give us the basics of this information 
again!


Thanks in advance,
Mary Swindell



At 05:00 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:



Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:41:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carla Amonson 
To: "blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info"

Subject: [Blackbelly] Copper
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Intetesting that copper came up yesterday as I was talking to a livestock 
nutritioust on Friday about copper. Did you know that sheep can very 
safely conusume up to 7ppm of Cooper daily? Our industry has chosen to 
promote copper free when in reality our sheep do need some copper and 
there are startig to be some issues our there with copper deficiencies. We 
cam get custom mineral mixes here according to feed and soil samples, but 
a minimum of 400 lbs. That is a lot of mineral, even with 210 head!  I 
generally mix in some cattle mineral with my sheep mineral.
There are many vegetarian dog treats out there-even a tiny bit if meat is 
a concern. That is supposedly what caused BSE if you recall and has made a 
8 year nightmare of the cattle industry in Canada.  I am a little more 
inclinded to believe the story about pour on wieners causing BSE myself, 
but still herbavors should not eat animal products of any sort.


Carla Amonson


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