Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-03 Thread Cecil Bearden

Tom Quinn wrote:
I worked on the ewe for a couple of hours, and got nothing.  She has no bag at 
all.  It sounded like she was letting down milk, but nothing.  That and the fact 
that she was butting the lambs away, led us to decide to get them warm and try 
to bottle feed tonight.  These little guys dont weigh much more than one pound 
each.  I will just have to see if we get them through the night, then brew up 
some colostrum replacer, and see if we can get anything from the ewe.




- Original Message 
From: Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

Tom, do everything you possibly can to milk colostrum from the ewe. Put her in a 
stanchion to hold her still. You may not get a lot, but every bit is important. 
Measure what you do get and divide it into two parts, one for each lamb. Do this 
as often as you can to get as much colostrum as you can from her. If she has any 
milk in her bag, you might try letting the lambs nurse. I stanchioned a ewe 
three times a day for 3 weeks and she finally accepted the lamb. (I bottle fed 
him to supplement what he was getting from the ewe.)


Read the article I wrote about Raising Bummer Lambs on a Bottle at 
http://critterhaven.biz/info/articles/bummer_lamb.htm It contains a recipe for a 
newborn milk formula to use if you have no colostrum. It also provides a 
schedule and a formula for feeding amounts. Cecil will caution you to not feed 
as much as the article recommends per feeding and I agree; but it is a place to 
start.


Carol

At 09:58 PM 8/2/2010, you wrote:
  

I dont have any colostrum.  All of this happened after the feed stores were
closed.
I can probably find some tomowrrow-- or is that too late?



Carol Elkins
Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
(no shear, no dock, no fuss)
Pueblo, Colorado
http://www.critterhaven.biz

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Sounds like they were premature.  You can wrap them in a towel, get a 
baby diaper and cut a hole for the tail.  Keep them next to you when you 
go to bed.  They need to hear a heartbeat nearby, they have been next to 
one for 5 months...  Find some colostrum replacer asap.  Be sparing on 
the feeding, they will tell you when they are hungry.  If they are 
peeing about every 1-2 hours they are getting enough.  The first 24 ours 
is when they hydrate and expand.  Remember they can aspirate easily so 
keep their heads up. and do not let them lay on their side.

Cecil in OKla
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Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-03 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
I agree with Cecil. I normally sleep with my new babies for the first night 
or 2. I didn't realize they were so small when I told you about the feeding 
amounts. On ones this small I feel lucky when I get a half ounce down them 
every 2 hours at first. I use a pet nurser bottle and the longest nipple but 
cut it back to about an inch long maybe shorter. It  just depends on the 
baby. Please let us know how they are dong. Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: Cecil Bearden crbear...@copper.net

To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 06:12
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding



Tom Quinn wrote:
I worked on the ewe for a couple of hours, and got nothing.  She has no 
bag at all.  It sounded like she was letting down milk, but nothing. 
That and the fact that she was butting the lambs away, led us to decide 
to get them warm and try to bottle feed tonight.  These little guys dont 
weigh much more than one pound each.  I will just have to see if we get 
them through the night, then brew up some colostrum replacer, and see if 
we can get anything from the ewe.




- Original Message 
From: Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

Tom, do everything you possibly can to milk colostrum from the ewe. Put 
her in a stanchion to hold her still. You may not get a lot, but every 
bit is important. Measure what you do get and divide it into two parts, 
one for each lamb. Do this as often as you can to get as much colostrum 
as you can from her. If she has any milk in her bag, you might try 
letting the lambs nurse. I stanchioned a ewe three times a day for 3 
weeks and she finally accepted the lamb. (I bottle fed him to supplement 
what he was getting from the ewe.)


Read the article I wrote about Raising Bummer Lambs on a Bottle at 
http://critterhaven.biz/info/articles/bummer_lamb.htm It contains a 
recipe for a newborn milk formula to use if you have no colostrum. It 
also provides a schedule and a formula for feeding amounts. Cecil will 
caution you to not feed as much as the article recommends per feeding and 
I agree; but it is a place to start.


Carol

At 09:58 PM 8/2/2010, you wrote:

I dont have any colostrum.  All of this happened after the feed stores 
were

closed.
I can probably find some tomowrrow-- or is that too late?



Carol Elkins
Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
(no shear, no dock, no fuss)
Pueblo, Colorado
http://www.critterhaven.biz

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Sounds like they were premature.  You can wrap them in a towel, get a baby 
diaper and cut a hole for the tail.  Keep them next to you when you go to 
bed.  They need to hear a heartbeat nearby, they have been next to one for 
5 months...  Find some colostrum replacer asap.  Be sparing on the 
feeding, they will tell you when they are hungry.  If they are peeing 
about every 1-2 hours they are getting enough.  The first 24 ours is when 
they hydrate and expand.  Remember they can aspirate easily so keep their 
heads up. and do not let them lay on their side.

Cecil in OKla
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[Blackbelly] Update on bottle babies Day 2

2010-08-03 Thread Tom Quinn
I want to thank everyone for the quick and helpful responses.  I was so 
shocked--went by the sheep pen at 5:30 yesterday evening and there they were!

The 2 little guys are doing great as of now.  I held them last night and fed 
them whenever they woke up.  We were able to get a little colostrum from the 
ewe 
today, so that was a good thing.  Will probably start colostrum replacer 
tomorrow.  Still no milk from the ewe.

They have gained strength all through today, and I will sleep with them again 
tonight.

I will keep the group updated, and again thanks for the help

Tom

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