[Blackbelly] USDA restrictive working dog transport regulations

2010-08-12 Thread Ron Keener

hello everyone!

here is the footer that I am attaching to all email sent from my
location - it is self explanatory - with enough grass roots pressure
maybe we can get the government zombies to recognize that their airline
pet transport Animal Welfare 'bible' does not cover the topic of working 
livestock dogs - these are unique animals that have one goal in life - 
to live with and protect their herd - so let's try to force the USDA to 
recognize that these special animals deserve special attention


since I have been forced to stop transport of LGDs I have had to turn
down a dozen requests to transport LGDs - that is a dozen herds that
don't have the protection from predators that they need and deserve!

please feel free to crosspost this information to any group that you 
think will have members who are uncomfortable with the USDA interfering 
with our private lives - in other words crosspost to EVERY group that 
you belong to - also make sure that your local USDA inspector gets at 
least a dozen copies of your and your friends comments about government 
intervention into areas where experienced animal handlers are more 
knowledgable about animal care than any 'politician' law writer who put 
a few paragraphs into a congressional bill


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Thanks to restrictive USDA regulations I no longer transport dogs!
Please let your local USDA inspector know how stupid it is to apply
'pet' transport regulations to climate acclimated working dogs!
With enough pressure maybe we can get the government morons to
recognize the difference between lap pets and working livestock dogs
and that working dogs transport best in the trailer with the livestock
we expect them to protect with their lives!

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questions?

Ask about TravelWithRonK PremierLimo service

Ron and Corgi co-pilots Tina and Jeremy (AKC)
operating from a base near Austin TX

private email at rkee...@realtime.net
web site at http://TravelWithRonK.com
group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TravelWithRonK

all animals crossing a state line must have vet inspection
papers before they can legally be transported

TravelWithRonK is dedicated to coast to coast transport of
small quantities of small livestock with 3000 animals
transported in 10 years of service

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/animal_import/animal_imports_states.shtml
for animal IMPORT information


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[Blackbelly] clarification - USDA restrictive working dog transport regulations

2010-08-12 Thread Ron Keener
these regulations come from the Animal Welfare Act - this act was 
intended to provide guidelines for the airline industry in the transport 
of fragile pets - the act basically specifies that pets must be 
transported in carriers at temperatures between 45 and 85 degrees


in my case the USDA is extending these regulations to include single 
digit acclimated adult Kangal (Anatolian) LGDs being transported with 
their goat herd in my specially designed trailer - during the winter 
trip (DEC 2009) the goats and dogs were transported from Michigan to 
Oregon across an intense arctic cold air bubble in Montana - the goats 
and dogs traveled fine and arrived in Oregon fine with no effects from 
the cold temperatures


during the meetings with USDA inspectors I specifically asked about vet 
issued 'acclimation exemptions' as part of the interstate vet inspection 
forms - I was told that those exemptions do not modify the law and have 
absolutely no bearing on compliance with the law - in other words they 
are meaningless!



hello everyone!

here is the footer that I am attaching to all email sent from my
location - it is self explanatory - with enough grass roots pressure
maybe we can get the government zombies to recognize that their airline
pet transport Animal Welfare 'bible' does not cover the topic of working
livestock dogs - these are unique animals that have one goal in life -
to live with and protect their herd - so let's try to force the USDA to
recognize that these special animals deserve special attention

since I have been forced to stop transport of LGDs I have had to turn
down a dozen requests to transport LGDs - that is a dozen herds that
don't have the protection from predators that they need and deserve!

please feel free to crosspost this information to any group that you
think will have members who are uncomfortable with the USDA interfering
with our private lives - in other words crosspost to EVERY group that
you belong to - also make sure that your local USDA inspector gets at
least a dozen copies of your and your friends comments about government
intervention into areas where experienced animal handlers are more
knowledgable about animal care than any 'politician' law writer who put
a few paragraphs into a congressional bill

--
Thanks to restrictive USDA regulations I no longer transport dogs!
Please let your local USDA inspector know how stupid it is to apply
'pet' transport regulations to climate acclimated working dogs!
With enough pressure maybe we can get the government morons to
recognize the difference between lap pets and working livestock dogs
and that working dogs transport best in the trailer with the livestock
we expect them to protect with their lives!

---

questions?

Ask about TravelWithRonK PremierLimo service

Ron and Corgi co-pilots Tina and Jeremy (AKC)
operating from a base near Austin TX

private email at rkee...@realtime.net
web site at http://TravelWithRonK.com
group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TravelWithRonK

all animals crossing a state line must have vet inspection
papers before they can legally be transported

TravelWithRonK is dedicated to coast to coast transport of
small quantities of small livestock with 3000 animals
transported in 10 years of service

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/animal_import/animal_imports_states.shtml 



for animal IMPORT information



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Re: [Blackbelly] Ewe with running nose You ain't gonna believe this!!!

2010-08-12 Thread Cecil Bearden
Last night my vet friend  I knocked out my ewe with the coated face and 
found the problem.  We suspected anything from a tumor to nasal bots.   What 
we found was bermuda grass seeds that had started to sprout.


We bale a lot of Bermuda Grass hay for horse owners.  Bermuda has to be 
baled dry or it will mildew.  This causes a lot of fines accumulating in the 
baler and this causes problems with sensors, net wrap, etc etc.  I blow out 
the accumulation of fines with a large (150 cfm) air compressor every day . 
These fines have a lot of seeds or grain, depending on what I am baling, in 
them and the sheep just love to eat the fines.   She must have snorted some 
of the seeds into her nose and didn't get them blown out.  There were many 
that had taken root in that warm moist environment.  Needless to say it was 
an irritation.  She came to before we could give her a shot of Ivomec to 
take care of possible nasal bots that may have been started due to the 
immense amount of drainage from her nose.
This morning she appeared to have dried up at her nose.  I just need to 
catch her again and wash her face.


This is another new one!!

Cecil in OKla




On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Cecil Bearden crbear...@copper.net wrote:

I have a ewe that has had a dirty face for several weeks. Did not think a
lot of it intil a few days ago when I caught her and discovered that it is
from her nose running. I gave her a shot of Baytril, and I thought it
cleared up, but now it is worse than ever. We are going to try to look up
there with a speculum. I think it may be a thistle seed, but I have no 
real

good idea. She seems to be OK just in misery with a runny nose. She is
nursing/weaning 2 lambs also. Anyone with any similar experience? Her
eyes seem fine.
Cecil in OKla
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Re: [Blackbelly] Ewe with running nose You ain't gonna believethis!!!

2010-08-12 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
wow! what a find! I would have never of thought it. It seems like they are 
always snorting some grain when feed ground corn to worm with pellets etc 
but wouldn't have thought of grass seed! Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: Cecil Bearden crbear...@copper.net

To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 22:11
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Ewe with running nose You ain't gonna 
believethis!!!



Last night my vet friend  I knocked out my ewe with the coated face and 
found the problem.  We suspected anything from a tumor to nasal bots. 
What we found was bermuda grass seeds that had started to sprout.


We bale a lot of Bermuda Grass hay for horse owners.  Bermuda has to be 
baled dry or it will mildew.  This causes a lot of fines accumulating in 
the baler and this causes problems with sensors, net wrap, etc etc.  I 
blow out the accumulation of fines with a large (150 cfm) air compressor 
every day . These fines have a lot of seeds or grain, depending on what I 
am baling, in them and the sheep just love to eat the fines.   She must 
have snorted some of the seeds into her nose and didn't get them blown 
out.  There were many that had taken root in that warm moist environment. 
Needless to say it was an irritation.  She came to before we could give 
her a shot of Ivomec to take care of possible nasal bots that may have 
been started due to the immense amount of drainage from her nose.
This morning she appeared to have dried up at her nose.  I just need to 
catch her again and wash her face.


This is another new one!!

Cecil in OKla




On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Cecil Bearden crbear...@copper.net 
wrote:

I have a ewe that has had a dirty face for several weeks. Did not think a
lot of it intil a few days ago when I caught her and discovered that it 
is

from her nose running. I gave her a shot of Baytril, and I thought it
cleared up, but now it is worse than ever. We are going to try to look up
there with a speculum. I think it may be a thistle seed, but I have no 
real

good idea. She seems to be OK just in misery with a runny nose. She is
nursing/weaning 2 lambs also. Anyone with any similar experience? Her
eyes seem fine.
Cecil in OKla
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[Blackbelly] A question about grain

2010-08-12 Thread Tom Quinn
Before I get to the question ewe 2 just had a nice healthy little ewe lamb.
That helps counter the 2 that we lost.  So--for live lambs, we now have two
ewes and 1 ram.

Now to my question.  I have been feeding exclusively hay.  Would anyone
recommend grain for the lactating ewes? If so, what?

Tom quinn

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