Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
Ray and the group. I figured out you have to be signed in to FaceBook as yourself, to see the pictures. If you don't have a FaceBook account, you won't see the pictures. _MWS On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:15 PM, RAY DE SA wrote: > Hi Natasha, Couldn't open the link, any chance you could send some pics? > I'm always curious and usually pretty good about determining the genetics in > Blackbellies and Barbados and their crosses. > Thanks, > Ray > --- On Sun, 9/25/11, Natasha Lovell wrote: > > > From: Natasha Lovell > Subject: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011, 1:16 PM > > > I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the > local petting zoo goat supplier & livestock expert). I went to visit the > animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a > search online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with > suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or > Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks > like she's at least 1/2 Barbados. > > Pictures: > > http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420 > > She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a > wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown > back to ~1-2"). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn > stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very > dainty face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, > with white patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm > pretty sure she's a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth. > > She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds > well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in > July from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only > tag is from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor > breed or cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her > breed(s), approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be > delighted to know. I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests > are Neg, in Oct. > > If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request. > > Thanks! > Natasha Lovell > Rubystar Nubian & Guernsey dairy goats > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
first off: hair sheep. so only a few breeds could be in the mix. Definitely Barbado or American Blackbelly- mix with something else. My AB girls mostly have horn scurs, I would think a true barbado would not. On the west coast, the most popular hair-sheep mixes with ABs are Painted Desert, and then plenty of ABs show up with some wool, and are mixed with wool sheep as well. here's an example of some lambs I believe are both mixed with Painted Desert "and" a bit of wool. The two white lambs are what I am talking about here, but you can see the parents, who are probably half and half. https://picasaweb.google.com/105444895914121009228/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM The Painted Desert can be responsible for the white splotches in places they would not belong on a normal AB. I bought the female lamb, and she grows an extra- thick layer of very white and curly hair for winter. All my other more "barbie" looking sheep have thinner, and more cream-colored winter wool. these are three of my most "barbie"-looking ABs I got from one ranch, Great markings. https://picasaweb.google.com/105444895914121009228/New_Barbados10308857PM#5284927325580751586 -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies Sent from my iPad On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Natasha Lovell wrote: > I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the > local petting zoo goat supplier & livestock expert). I went to visit the > animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a > search online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with > suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or > Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks > like she's at least 1/2 Barbados. > > Pictures: > > http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420 > > She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a > wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown > back to ~1-2"). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn > stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very > dainty face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, > with white patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm > pretty sure she's a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth. > > She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds > well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in > July from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only > tag is from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor > breed or cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her > breed(s), approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be > delighted to know. I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests > are Neg, in Oct. > > If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request. > > Thanks! > Natasha Lovell > Rubystar Nubian & Guernsey dairy goats > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
Hi Natasha, Couldn't open the link, any chance you could send some pics? I'm always curious and usually pretty good about determining the genetics in Blackbellies and Barbados and their crosses. Thanks, Ray --- On Sun, 9/25/11, Natasha Lovell wrote: From: Natasha Lovell Subject: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011, 1:16 PM I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the local petting zoo goat supplier & livestock expert). I went to visit the animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a search online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks like she's at least 1/2 Barbados. Pictures: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420 She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown back to ~1-2"). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very dainty face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, with white patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm pretty sure she's a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth. She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in July from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only tag is from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor breed or cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her breed(s), approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be delighted to know. I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests are Neg, in Oct. If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request. Thanks! Natasha Lovell Rubystar Nubian & Guernsey dairy goats ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the local petting zoo goat supplier & livestock expert). I went to visit the animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a search online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks like she's at least 1/2 Barbados. Pictures: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420 She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown back to ~1-2"). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very dainty face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, with white patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm pretty sure she's a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth. She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in July from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only tag is from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor breed or cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her breed(s), approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be delighted to know. I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests are Neg, in Oct. If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request. Thanks! Natasha Lovell Rubystar Nubian & Guernsey dairy goats ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Pricing
Depends on your area and the general demand. I'm in central California and they vary quite a bit. I have bought some nice young rams (that are now beautiful) for as little as $50.00 each and sold some nice young ones for $150.00. I do see them nice older rams listed from around $80.00 to $250.00 around here. I guess you just have to check your area and see if you can get what you think they're worth. If you are happy with what you get for them, you priced them right. Ray --- On Sun, 9/25/11, Curtis wrote: From: Curtis Subject: [Blackbelly] Pricing To: "blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info" Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011, 8:31 AM I tried this before and am unsure if it went through I was wondering how y'all priced you rams for sale, especially those that have really nice horns. Any and all help would be much appreciated Thanks, Curtis ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Pricing
I tried this before and am unsure if it went through I was wondering how y'all priced you rams for sale, especially those that have really nice horns. Any and all help would be much appreciated Thanks, Curtis ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
