Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, imgr8a...@comcast.net wrote:


Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 01:19:07 + (UTC)
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Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

One or two of my sheep show up limping every couple months.  I have never seen 
them hurt themselves, but I've often wondered if its something they do or if 
they got hurt running away from one of the horses or doing a fast maneuver.
They usually work it out in a couple of days and it's like nothing happened.  I 
do check to make sure there is nothing lodged in between their toes and that 
there is no heat in the leg.

As far as banamine goes, I just used it IM on one of my Finns.  She had to have 
a c-section last Friday night, she developed toxemia.  She was getting banamine 
twice a day for 3 days.  I would check with your vet to see if banamine is the 
right thing to use for what your sheep has.  When it comes to sheep, with just 
a limp, if it isn't mastitis, I would give it a couple of days and she if it 
works itself out.


Nancy L. Johnson
imgr8a...@comcast.net
cell: 301 440 4808

One of our ewes (~3 YO) often limps after the first rain. I've never seen any 
hoof problems. The sheep are on a fairly steep hillside and I think what 
happens is tha she slips in the mud after a big rain and sprains her leg. The 
limping always goes away in a couple days.


Peter Wallace

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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread R. Natasha Baronas
One of my ewes got into too much lamb text this fall.  I was worried she was 
going to bloat.  One of the symptoms associated with acidosis is limping which 
is caused by inflamed laminae (sp?).  The vet recommended that I soak her sore 
foot in ice old water.  If she continues limping maybe this will help.

Good luck,

Natasha


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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Smith
what is Lamb Text?

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:18 AM, R. Natasha Baronas
meadowskuv...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of my ewes got into too much lamb text this fall.  I was worried she was 
 going to bloat.  One of the symptoms associated with acidosis is limping 
 which is caused by inflamed laminae (sp?).  The vet recommended that I soak 
 her sore foot in ice old water.  If she continues limping maybe this will 
 help.

 Good luck,

 Natasha


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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread R. Natasha Baronas


 what is Lamb Text?

That is what they call creep feed here - at the feed store that is how you ask 
for it.  It's a mix of pellets and grains.  I think it's a bizarre way of 
naming it - but that is what it is.

Natasha
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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Cecil R Bearden
A few years ago we were having a streak of very wet weather.  My ewes 
started acting as if their feet were sore.  I fed them Vitamin H or 
Biotin as a supplement and in about 3 days it went away.  Biotin helps 
strengthen hoofs, It couls not hurt.  Clovite is a good supplement that 
has Biotin.


Cecil in oKla


On 3/7/2012 9:18 AM, R. Natasha Baronas wrote:

One of my ewes got into too much lamb text this fall.  I was worried she was 
going to bloat.  One of the symptoms associated with acidosis is limping which 
is caused by inflamed laminae (sp?).  The vet recommended that I soak her sore 
foot in ice old water.  If she continues limping maybe this will help.

Good luck,

Natasha


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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I'd never heard of this term either (thanks for asking, Michael!). I 
Googled and think it may originate from Lamb Textured Feed. See 
http://www.showmasterfeeds.com/showmaster/en/products/lamb/show-lamb-textured-feed/index.jsp


Carol

At 08:36 AM 3/7/2012, you wrote:



 what is Lamb Text?

That is what they call creep feed here - at the feed store that is 
how you ask for it.  It's a mix of pellets and grains.  I think it's 
a bizarre way of naming it - but that is what it is.


Natasha
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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread R. Natasha Baronas


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On 2012-03-07, at 8:45 AM, Carol J. Elkins celk...@awrittenword.com wrote:

 I'd never heard of this term either (thanks for asking, Michael!). I Googled 
 and think it may originate from Lamb Textured Feed. See 
 http://www.showmasterfeeds.com/showmaster/en/products/lamb/show-lamb-textured-feed/index.jsp
 
 Carol
 
 At 08:36 AM 3/7/2012, you wrote:
 
 
  what is Lamb Text?
 
 That is what they call creep feed here - at the feed store that is how you 
 ask for it.  It's a mix of pellets and grains.  I think it's a bizarre way 
 of naming it - but that is what it is.
 
 Natasha
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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Carol J. Elkins
It is helpful to everyone to learn the various regional lingo so that 
we have a broader understanding of the sheep community. When I first 
started, here in Colorado they refer to sweet feed and COB and I 
didn't have a clue. Now we know that lamb text isn't literature for 
baby sheeps.


Carol

At 10:18 AM 3/7/2012, you wrote:
I believe you are correct with the name textured feed.  Sorry, I'm 
new to all this and don't have the lingo figured out.


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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Mark Wintermute


 
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe


-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

Hi Michael,

When I have a ewe come up limping I set them on their butt and totally clean
up their hooves with my knife.  I have some common scenarios:

The hoof has separated from the pad and hurts.  This can be very deceptive
to the eye.  Take your knife and really clean out ALL dirt where the pad
meets the hoof.  I have found dirt gets compacted up into the wound to the
point everything looks 100% normal.  You will know when you have found the
wound when the ewe jumps with pain and goes beserk!!!  Of course if you find
the wound you still have to clean it out very well.  I usually cut loose the
separated hoof section since it is essentially dead and will have to be
regrown anyway.  By removing the hoof section that is separated the dirt
will no longer compact into the area.

Or the hoof has a slight tear into the pad (think torn fingernail).  Again I
cut loose the torn portion so it quits snagging which gives the ewe relief.
They will still limp but for fewer days.

And finally thorns.  My property is loaded with Osage Orange (Hedge) trees
that have thorns capable of penetrating any tire or shoe.  These are very
hard thorns and are best pulled out with needle nose pliers.  I rather doubt
you have a thorn issue but maybe your ewe has something (splinter) in her
pad.  Again, I take my knife and scrape everything off the pad.  If you hit
the sore spot you will know it!


Any ewe I grab for limping gets every hoof put into perfect trimmed
condition.  I pretty much know that the minute I release this tortured ewe I
will not be catching her again anytime soon!  It is amazing how all four
legs work just fine when I release them when they could only walk on three
when I caught them.

Hope this helps.

Mark Wintermute

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Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Smith
Thanks everyone. This morning was frosty outside, and she looked worse
and more tender than ever. This evening, the temps in California are
about 65F and sunny, she was moving fairly well. I have not had time
to treat her, and plan to go get some hoof drench and some Penn, just
in case. I'll pen her up and take a look tonight or tomorrow.

_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Wintermute
winterm...@earthlink.net wrote:


 
 Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe


 -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

 Hi Michael,

 When I have a ewe come up limping I set them on their butt and totally clean
 up their hooves with my knife.  I have some common scenarios:

 The hoof has separated from the pad and hurts.  This can be very deceptive
 to the eye.  Take your knife and really clean out ALL dirt where the pad
 meets the hoof.  I have found dirt gets compacted up into the wound to the
 point everything looks 100% normal.  You will know when you have found the
 wound when the ewe jumps with pain and goes beserk!!!  Of course if you find
 the wound you still have to clean it out very well.  I usually cut loose the
 separated hoof section since it is essentially dead and will have to be
 regrown anyway.  By removing the hoof section that is separated the dirt
 will no longer compact into the area.

 Or the hoof has a slight tear into the pad (think torn fingernail).  Again I
 cut loose the torn portion so it quits snagging which gives the ewe relief.
 They will still limp but for fewer days.

 And finally thorns.  My property is loaded with Osage Orange (Hedge) trees
 that have thorns capable of penetrating any tire or shoe.  These are very
 hard thorns and are best pulled out with needle nose pliers.  I rather doubt
 you have a thorn issue but maybe your ewe has something (splinter) in her
 pad.  Again, I take my knife and scrape everything off the pad.  If you hit
 the sore spot you will know it!


 Any ewe I grab for limping gets every hoof put into perfect trimmed
 condition.  I pretty much know that the minute I release this tortured ewe I
 will not be catching her again anytime soon!  It is amazing how all four
 legs work just fine when I release them when they could only walk on three
 when I caught them.

 Hope this helps.

 Mark Wintermute

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