Re: [Blackbelly] Marley's Horn Growth

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Hummel
Yea I  don't get the thrill of shooting something that really can't get 
away or can't fight back.  All you need to get our guys is rattle a 
coffee can with a bit of corn in it.  They'll come running from an acre 
away.  But if that is how they get their thrills I'll supply their 
game if it helps to make the farm payment.  I'm getting $100.00 for 
weaned ram lambs, the buyer raises them on his grass and then runs them 
through his preserve.  When they are harvested I get paid.



On 10/8/2013 9:45 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

I agree, Mike. Those pictures show a good example of the same configuration of horns. 
Interesting.  Is it just me, or does the guy with the revolver and iron sights look like 
he might have hunted his ram from maybe, what?... 30 yards? Hardly seems 
sporting.

Question: how does one measure horns? from the side: tip to tip? or do they 
start a tape measure at the forehoead and follow the length around the outside 
of the curl for overall length?


-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

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On Oct 8, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com wrote:


I
http://www.texashuntlodge.com/black_hawaiian_sheep_hunt_package.asp

cid:part1.07060102.06090205@soggytopfarm.com
On 10/8/2013 10:54 AM, Michael Smith wrote:

well, what is pure ABB, anyway?

but I agree, he'd make a great trophy. As for his heritage, his markings are 
more troublesome to me than his horns.  There's no pictures of it, but when he 
sheds, he has almost no black necktie. Only gets that marking when his ruff 
grows out. also has very small eyebrows. And his coat is not that red, more 
tan. Other than that he has a fine black belly, and no white sock markings or 
white blotches anywhere.

I've thought about calling the Texas hunting ranches to get some Mouflon, but 
they are pricey.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

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On Oct 8, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com wrote:


What a set of horns, makes me wonder if he is pure ABB.  If you want to find 
out what is worth, contact one of the many game preserves.  They will pay you 
big bucks to let some city slicker shoot him.

On 10/7/2013 9:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

(trying this again in plain text format)

Anyone else got any recent pictures?

My ABB Marley, the freebie ram who started it all for me. He came from
a goat breeder who got him from a vet as a bottle baby, and had no
idea what to do with him, so I got him for free.  Born Feb 2008.

  He does not have the best markings of any of my 5 intact rams, but
man, he has the horns!  Every time I take my eye off him, those horns
seem to have grown more. I've had one intact son and one grandson from
him and their horn spread is not nearly as wide as his. They might
have a good amount of total curl, but not a wide spread rack like his.
He has two other grandsons who had weak ABB markings that are
weathers.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/rams2013/32364864_kz9mSW#!i=2817598743k=2zCmvtG

enjoy

normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
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Re: [Blackbelly] The noble Marley

2013-10-09 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Thank you Michael.  I was afraid you were going to succumb to the mighty 
dollar.  When my first ram Blackie, was not usuable for service, I 
wethered him and he turned out to be a great pet and would lead the 
flock in to the pen or wherever I needed them.  He later had an injury 
to his feet, he was over 20 years old, and was not in good health.  
After 2 weeks of trying to get his feet to heal, we decided to put him 
out of his misery.  He now hangs over the fake fireplace mantel where he 
can watch over us and we can watch him.   When I picked him up at the 
taxidermist, it was like finding a lost friend.


Cecil in OKla


On 10/8/2013 8:35 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

I was talking about when he dies. That part was not clear--now that I re-read 
it. He's my pet and will live his life out naturally on my ranch.

-MWS

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On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Erik Christy echri...@peak.org wrote:


I'm surprised and saddened the hear talk of executing this noble creature 
rather than continuing to admire and respect him for what he has given and the 
beautiful stature he presents to all who see him.  Is this how we repay 
elegance?



normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.


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Re: [Blackbelly] Loose Mineral Feeder

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Hummel

Thanks to both Carol and Curtis, our mineral bill will be going down.

On 10/6/2013 6:32 PM, Carol Elkins wrote:
Curtis has sent me photos of his mineral feeder and I've uploaded them 
to the Blackbelly Listserv's Scrapebook page at 
http://www.blackbellysheep.info/scrapbook.html  Choose the Gates, 
Pens, Chutes and Feeders group and you'll see Curtis' photos of his 
mineral feeder.


Thanks Curtis!

Carol

At 05:12 PM 10/5/2013, you wrote:

Could you post a picture of your mineral feeder?


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Re: [Blackbelly] Loose Mineral Feeder

2013-10-09 Thread Betsy
Yes, thank you for the pictures of the PVC mineral feeder!
Betsy

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 On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com wrote:
 
 Thanks to both Carol and Curtis, our mineral bill will be going down.
 
 On 10/6/2013 6:32 PM, Carol Elkins wrote:
 Curtis has sent me photos of his mineral feeder and I've uploaded them to 
 the Blackbelly Listserv's Scrapebook page at 
 http://www.blackbellysheep.info/scrapbook.html  Choose the Gates, Pens, 
 Chutes and Feeders group and you'll see Curtis' photos of his mineral 
 feeder.
 
 Thanks Curtis!
 
 Carol
 
 At 05:12 PM 10/5/2013, you wrote:
 Could you post a picture of your mineral feeder?
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48

2013-10-09 Thread Ellen Brouillette
One of the resons I got into ABB sheep is that I understood they  have a 
natural ability to resist parisites and dasieses,  In the arcives I read  how 
some are worming there sheep, Can we get by whithout worming and vaccinating?



On Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:22 PM, Betsy bwildcatl...@aol.com wrote:
  
Yes please, I would like to see a picture of your mineral feeder as well.

Betsy

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 On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Donna Marie dm...@wlake.com wrote:
 
 Could you post a picture of your mineral feeder?
 
 Thanx,
 Donna-Marie
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Deworming sheep (was previously Blackbelly Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48)

2013-10-09 Thread Carol Elkins

Hi Ellen,

Great question, and you will probably receive several different 
viewpoints. In almost 16 years of raising Barbados Blackbelly, I have 
never dewormed or vaccinated my sheep. Although I haven't had any 
sheep losses from worm overload, I was prepared to lose some in order 
to cull any that were not genetically worm resistant. I am of the 
school that believes that keeping sheep alive chemically just enables 
them to breed more lambs that are genetically not resistant to worms. 
That doesn't help the overall breed. I live in a climate that has 
cold winters which helps keep the worm load down, but several BB 
breeders live in humid, warmer areas and have not found it necessary to deworm.


Also, by rotating my sheep through smaller paddocks during summer 
grazing, I help break the worm cycle. I allow them to graze a paddock 
for one week and I don't put them back in that paddock for a month.


If you do decide to deworm, I urge you to only deworm the sheep that 
show signs of being debilitated by worms. Deworming sheep that don't 
require it just increases the worm tolerance to dewormers and 
minimizes the effectiveness of dewormers when you really need them.


BTW, when you respond to an email, don't forget to change the subject 
line. Replace the Digest subject line by copying and pasting the 
subject line of the email you are replying to. If you are starting a 
new subject, create a new subject line. That helps the messages 
archive correctly and enables people to search for them.


Carol

At 07:57 PM 10/8/2013, you wrote:
One of the resons I got into ABB sheep is that I understood 
they  have a natural ability to resist parisites and dasieses,  In 
the arcives I read  how some are worming there sheep, Can we get by 
whithout worming and vaccinating?


Carol Elkins
Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
(no shear, no dock, no fuss)
Pueblo, Colorado
http://www.critterhaven.biz

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[Blackbelly] Mineral feeders

2013-10-09 Thread Curtis
Glad I could be of help. I got the idea from someone else but wanted the clean 
out plugs instead of an end cap so that I could clean them out when needed. 

Curtis
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