Re: [Blackbelly] Breeding young RAMS

2013-10-20 Thread Ellen Brouillette
From what I read ABBs can possibly lamb out every 7 mouths. We had 3 ewes lamb 
out in Sept. when we bought them and lamb out again in April. So we know it is 
possible, How consistently have your ABBs done this? Our ewes are in good 
shape and all lambed out this spring,  We are still wondering about this young 
ram because as I said before we have not had any lambs this fall.   Arnold 

On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:35 PM, Ellen Brouillette ellenlyn...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
I got rid of my old ram last winter. I have a young ram that was a year old 
this spring. The first I saw him breed was in August. By the looks of our 
spring lambs I thought he had breed some last fall. We have no lambs yet this 
fall. Am looking for feedback in this aria. Thanks, Arnold
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[Blackbelly] Breeding young RAMS

2013-10-15 Thread Ellen Brouillette
I got rid of my old ram last winter. I have a young ram that was a year old 
this spring. The first I saw him breed was in August. By the looks of our 
spring lambs I thought he had breed some last fall. We have no lambs yet this 
fall. Am looking for feedback in this aria. Thanks, Arnold
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Re: [Blackbelly] The noble Marley

2013-10-15 Thread Ellen Brouillette
Keeping a sheep as a pet and letting them live out their life is good if that 
is what they want. We name some of our farm animals but do not make pets out of 
any of them. We really enjoy them but as we raised our family everyone 
understood we raised them for food, even rabbits. To consider hunting farm 
raised animals as execution seems not right. It seems they do it as humanly as 
possible.    Arnold   



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:52 AM, Erik Christy echri...@peak.org wrote:
  
I'm surprised and saddened the hear talk of executing this noble 
creature rather than continuing to admire and respect him for what he 
has given and the beautiful stature he presents to all who see him.  Is 
this how we repay elegance?

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     1. Marley's Horn Growth (Michael Smith)
     2. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Mike Hummel)
     3. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Michael Smith)
     4. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Mike Hummel)


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 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:19:06 -0700
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 Anyone else got any recent pictures?

 My ABB Marley, the freebie ram who started it all for me. He came from
 a goat breeder who got him from a vet as a bottle baby, and had no
 idea what to do with him, so I got him for free.  Born Feb 2008.

   He does not have the best markings of any of my 5 intact rams, but
 man, he has the horns!  Every time I take my eye off him, those horns
 seem to have grown more. I've had one intact son and one grandson from
 him and their horn spread is not nearly as wide as his. They might
 have a good amount of total curl, but not a wide spread rack like his.
 He has two other grandsons who had weak ABB markings that are
 weathers.

 http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/rams2013/32364864_kz9mSW#!i=2817598743k=2zCmvtG

 enjoy

 normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
 pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

 -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.


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 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:04:35 -0400
 From: Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com
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 What a set of horns, makes me wonder if he is pure ABB.  If you want to
 find out what is worth, contact one of the many game preserves.  They
 will pay you big bucks to let some city slicker shoot him.

 On 10/7/2013 9:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
 (trying this again in plain text format)

 Anyone else got any recent pictures?

 My ABB Marley, the freebie ram who started it all for me. He came from
 a goat breeder who got him from a vet as a bottle baby, and had no
 idea what to do with him, so I got him for free.  Born Feb 2008.

    He does not have the best markings of any of my 5 intact rams, but
 man, he has the horns!  Every time I take my eye off him, those horns
 seem to have grown more. I've had one intact son and one grandson from
 him and their horn spread is not nearly as wide as his. They might
 have a good amount of total curl, but not a wide spread rack like his.
 He has two other grandsons who had weak ABB markings that are
 weathers.

 http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/rams2013/32364864_kz9mSW#!i=2817598743k=2zCmvtG

 enjoy

 normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
 pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

 -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
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Re: [Blackbelly] Deworming sheep (was previously Blackbelly Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48)

2013-10-10 Thread Ellen Brouillette
Thanks Carol  William. That is what I was hoping to here, My name is Arnold. 
Ellen is my wife, We got our ABBs a year ago and are really enjoying them. Is 
there a way to find other ABBs in our aria? We have 63 acres near Plains 
Montana.    Arnold 



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:07 AM, William Buchanan bkbu...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:
  
I concur with Carol. I live in the humid southeast and I only wormed once,
many years ago.  In fact, all the sheep that were wormed have either been
sold or died of old age, so none of the sheep on my place now have ever been
wormed.  My vet and my State Vet both encouraged me to do this. From that
point on, I never wormed again.  I did lose a few in the early years but
none in several years. Survival of the fittest.

Chris Buchanan

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To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info; Ellen Brouillette
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Deworming sheep (was previously Blackbelly Digest,
Vol 9, Issue 48)

Hi Ellen,

Great question, and you will probably receive several different viewpoints.
In almost 16 years of raising Barbados Blackbelly, I have never dewormed or
vaccinated my sheep. Although I haven't had any sheep losses from worm
overload, I was prepared to lose some in order to cull any that were not
genetically worm resistant. I am of the school that believes that keeping
sheep alive chemically just enables them to breed more lambs that are
genetically not resistant to worms. 
That doesn't help the overall breed. I live in a climate that has cold
winters which helps keep the worm load down, but several BB breeders live in
humid, warmer areas and have not found it necessary to deworm.

Also, by rotating my sheep through smaller paddocks during summer grazing, I
help break the worm cycle. I allow them to graze a paddock for one week and
I don't put them back in that paddock for a month.

If you do decide to deworm, I urge you to only deworm the sheep that show
signs of being debilitated by worms. Deworming sheep that don't require it
just increases the worm tolerance to dewormers and minimizes the
effectiveness of dewormers when you really need them.

BTW, when you respond to an email, don't forget to change the subject line.
Replace the Digest subject line by copying and pasting the subject line of
the email you are replying to. If you are starting a new subject, create a
new subject line. That helps the messages archive correctly and enables
people to search for them.

Carol

At 07:57 PM 10/8/2013, you wrote:
One of the resons I got into ABB sheep is that I understood they  have 
a natural ability to resist parisites and dasieses,  In the arcives I 
read  how some are worming there sheep, Can we get by whithout worming 
and vaccinating?

Carol Elkins
Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock,
no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz/

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Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48

2013-10-09 Thread Ellen Brouillette
One of the resons I got into ABB sheep is that I understood they  have a 
natural ability to resist parisites and dasieses,  In the arcives I read  how 
some are worming there sheep, Can we get by whithout worming and vaccinating?



On Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:22 PM, Betsy bwildcatl...@aol.com wrote:
  
Yes please, I would like to see a picture of your mineral feeder as well.

Betsy

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 On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Donna Marie dm...@wlake.com wrote:
 
 Could you post a picture of your mineral feeder?
 
 Thanx,
 Donna-Marie
 
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[Blackbelly] (no subject)

2013-10-02 Thread Ellen Brouillette
any recomdations for a mineral supplement. Do blackbelly sheep need it? What I 
have been using seems expencive.
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