Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 16
Beth and Chris Thanks for your input. My alpha (Rascal) was a sweetheart until about age 5. Then I started noticing changes. He has slowly become very aggressive. He is a beautiful animal and loves attention as long as I am on the other side of the fence (loves to have his ears scratched), but when I enter the pasture his legs come up and wave and he backs up to show signs of a charge. We have had a couple of battles where I would wrestle him down and hold him, but recent back surgery prevents that now. I will probably not butcher him, I will just continue to be careful and keep my distance or something between he and I Thanks again Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas Jim Fallis President Precise Adjustments, Inc 469-916-8335.Office 469-916-8339...Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:53 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 16 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. lambs with colds (Nancy Tom Richardson) 2. Re: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14 (William Buchanan) 3. Re: Lambs with colds (Dayna Denmark) 4. Re: Aggresive Ram (GARLAND STAMPER) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:42:28 -0600 From: Nancy Tom Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] lambs with colds To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Thanks for the advice on shots. I usually give 1 cc pen and1/2cc of excenel once a day and if they are really bad another dose of penn in the evening. I do this for 3 - 5 days depending on how sick. It normally is a great fix. I just hate the whole idea of shooting such a little thing. I think I will see if they get over the cold on their own. It doesn't seem to be affecting any of the other lambs they are with. And they are eating like pigs even nibbling pellets. Nancy -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:43:52 -0600 From: William Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My personal opinion is it is too late if he is that old and that aggressive. By now he not only has a large set of horns, he is used to imposing his will on others. Plus, he has no fear of you. It may slow him down a little, especially after the new ram puts him in his place, but he will still be a threat to you. I have a wether that is 8 years old and whenever I walk out to bring them a treat like an alfalfa bale or something, he starts to get aggressive/impatient and feigns a charge. He hasn't actually charged, but all he has are two buttons for horns and he was banded/bottlefed from 2 days old. He has never known real aggression and never learned to charge and fight. I can easily see where he would be a problem with just a little confidence. Chris B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Fallis Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:06 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14 I have a question My alpha ram is very aggressive. Dangerous at times (bottle fed, I was warned not to try and make a pet out of him) Throws very good genes and keeps the ewes happy. I have been wondering if I made a whether out of him, would his attitude change. He is now 5 years old. Is it too late? Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:33:25 -0800 From: Dayna Denmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Lambs with colds To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Nancy, There are some good holistic products out there on the web. If you visit www.wolfcreekranch.com they have products for cough and cold that you could try. They are very detailed in whats in their formulas so you can see if something won't work
Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 4, Issue 14
I have a question My alpha ram is very aggressive. Dangerous at times (bottle fed, I was warned not to try and make a pet out of him) Throws very good genes and keeps the ewes happy. I have been wondering if I made a whether out of him, would his attitude change. He is now 5 years old. Is it too late? Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 106
I am in North Texas I have noticed the same thing with my lambs this year. None are growing as normal Jim Fallis President Precise Adjustments, Inc 469-916-8335.Office 469-916-8339...Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:14 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 106 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. testing and question (o johnson) 2. Re: testing and question (Cecil Bearden) 3. Re: testing and question (Julian Hale) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:37:49 -0700 (PDT) From: o johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Blackbelly] testing and question To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have changed my list email and have not gotten anything recently so wanting to do a test email to make sure I am set up correctly. I also have a question: Is anyone in the Southern part of the US not having the same results as normal on their lambs. My guys are not growing like they have in the past. I know feed and hay quality was not that great last year (I do alfalfa and corn) but they are apx 7 months old and look about 4 to 5 months old. I have wormed them, they get unlimited hay now that I can now that hay is plentiful. They have protien blocks, loose mineral and baking soda like normal. They are happy and healthy just not as big as normal. Is anyone else seeing this with this years lambs. Thanks Oneta in McLoud, OK Oneta and The Gang www.johnsonquarterhorses.com Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:00:22 -0500 From: Cecil Bearden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] testing and question To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have noticed this also. Cecil in OKla o johnson wrote: I have changed my list email and have not gotten anything recently so wanting to do a test email to make sure I am set up correctly. I also have a question: Is anyone in the Southern part of the US not having the same results as normal on their lambs. My guys are not growing like they have in the past. I know feed and hay quality was not that great last year (I do alfalfa and corn) but they are apx 7 months old and look about 4 to 5 months old. I have wormed them, they get unlimited hay now that I can now that hay is plentiful. They have protien blocks, loose mineral and baking soda like normal. They are happy and healthy just not as big as normal. Is anyone else seeing this with this years lambs. Thanks Oneta in McLoud, OK Oneta and The Gang www.johnsonquarterhorses.com Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:44:28 -0700 From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] testing and question To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 At 06:37 AM 8/19/2007, you wrote: I also have a question: Is anyone in the Southern part of the US not having the same results as normal on their lambs. My guys are not growing like they have in the past. I know feed and hay quality was not that great last year (I do alfalfa and corn) but they are apx 7 months old and look about 4 to 5 months old. I have wormed them, they get unlimited hay now that I can now that hay is plentiful. They have protien blocks, loose mineral and baking soda like normal. They are happy and healthy just not as big as normal. Is anyone else seeing this with this years lambs
Re: [blackbelly] blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 55
Thanks to all for your help in trying to determine what was wrong with this ewe. Sorry to say she had to be put down Lambs are doing great on the bottle. They will be well cared for and live a great life Thanks again to all for your help and concern Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas Jim Fallis President Precise Adjustments, Inc 469-916-8335.Office 469-916-8339...Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 55 Send blackbelly mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Sheep and Horses (Chris Eileen) 2. Re: Sheep and Horses (Stephanie Parrish) 3. Re: ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing (The Wintermutes) 4. Re: Sheep and Horses (Stephanie Jones) 5. Re: Sheep and Horses (Christine Handley) 6. late APR/early MAY transport trip - market item (Ron Keener) 7. Re: Sheep and Horses (Cecil Bearden) 8. Re: Sheep and Horses (Johnson, Oneta) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:57:20 -0700 From: Chris Eileen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other animals? Thanks, Eileen -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:08:53 -0400 From: Stephanie Parrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think that the best companion for your horse would be another horse. I do have a couple of older horses in with some of my sheep. They don't usually hang out together. Except for the ram, who has been a little forward with the horses - they don't seem to like him. Stephanie On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:57 PM, Chris Eileen wrote: My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for companionship for my horse. -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:29:21 -0500 From: The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I had a feeling this was the direction the ewe was heading. Like Cecil said, diagnosing over the internet with just a little information is very difficult. Mark Wintermute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing I'm forwarding this from Jim Fallis regarding his ewe: Well Sad end to the latest saga at the Fallis Barbado Farm We were not able to save the ewe that was down. The twins were born over the weekend. We had no idea she actually had tripplets. We discovered her down Tuesday. By that time the dead fetus had began to decay and swell. We attempted to extract, but just not enough room and the ewe was too infected by the poision of the decaying fetus. I had the vet put her down and get her out of her misery. Now I have 2 bottle babies on my hands. They will be loved and cared for very well. Thanks to all for your interest and mostly your concern and caring. Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:25:30 -0400 From: Stephanie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original We had 1 horse in with the sheep and now the horse is gone!! I saw him actually pick a full grown ewe up by the back of the neck and THROW her across the field. He didn't like to share the hay or feed, and was pestered by the lambs. I was terrified
Re: [blackbelly] blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50
Questions: What is Scarpie? How do I get my flock tested? Does each animal need testing or just one? Please advise Thanks Jim fallis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:08 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 Send blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Julian Hale) 2. David in Oregon (Brad and Aimee Andrews) 3. How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? (Julian Hale) 4. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Cecil Bearden) 5. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (RBMuller) 6. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Johnson, Oneta) 7. Re: New Web site (Johnson, Oneta) 8. Tags (Eldon Andersen) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:12:38 -0800 From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 08:00 AM 3/15/2006, Carol J. Elkins wrote: (I suppose we should be glad our sheep have any ears at all. The folks raising La Mancha goats (which are earless) have an interesting dilemma. I believe they tattoo, which is REALLY a pain--literally.) Yes... I bought a La Mancha last year, and her tattoo is in the sensitive hairless area of the *underside of the tail*! That *had* to hurt! I don't plan on raising any myself, for that very reason. Julian -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brad and Aimee Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [blackbelly] David in Oregon To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow David you must live on the wet side of Oregon. We over here in the east have to pray and water like crazy to get something to grow in the summer. Brad -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:35:30 -0800 From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got two bottle lambs, almost 10 weeks old now. They're eating hay just fine, but they have not figured out the whole water thing, yet, so they still get bottles. I'd like to wean them, and get them acclimated to colder temperatures, but first they need to know how to drink water. Does anybody have any tips for me? Speaking of weaning, does anybody make a lamb sized gag? The little girl is driving me nuts... Thanks, Julian -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:18:30 -0600 From: Cecil Bearden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The sale barn I use uses a thin metal tag. so far it has stayed in my Blackbellies ears better than anything else. Including the new OK state tag.. I never removed the metal ones and they are in there going on 3 years.. Cecil in OKla - Original Message - From: Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags The only ear tag that works, in my opinion, is Premier's 2X tag. It has been approved for most states' mandatory tags. I think it is the plastic tag-wide style that you are referring to. Please check, however. Even so, these tags are not suitable for lamb ears because our sheep have very tiny and fragile ears at birth. Wait as long as possible before applying the tag, preferably until the lamb is 5-6 months old. To enable easy identification of lambs, use the small brass tags sold by Premier and apply shortly after birth. I have never lost one of these tags yet. Carol At 10:25 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 or plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which would be better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? Thanks in advance for your help! Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss
