Re: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control

[Terry]

 Barb,
 Consider lime-stabilizing your sacrifice areas and the
barn floor.  This will help solidify the surface, so that
the  little buggers can't hide as well below the surface,
or get stirred up when the area gets pugged. Lime
stabilized soils can be planted over, as well, so you
wouldn't necessarily lose all grazing use of the area. The
lime will also alter the pH drastically-- may result in
killing off a lot of infective stage larvae. They can be
made to drain well, eliminating some of the moisture
issues.

Yeah= Corid does inhibit Thiamine--almost have to
supplement the B vitamins when using it. What is it-- a
form of polio that goats get when B deficient?

 Terry W





  

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[Blackbelly] Cocci Control

[Terry]

Well, I  looked in a lot of places, and asked questions in
a few more

The Cocci  that sheep and goats deal with are pretty much
resistant, and the only good, natural way to keep them
under control is to manage pastures and herds in such a
manner that the natural immunity that developes by being
exposed to low numbers is permitted to develope within the
animal.

 A strict MIG program is of use, as it helps reduce the
number of infective larvae that have access to the animals
by killing them off with cold, feeding by other animals (
chickens, cows, horses) and changes in the vegetative
makeup of the paddocks.   So, rotational grazing, intensive
grazing, alternationg the use of the paddock between
vegetative crop and pasture, etc, help  keep things under
control.

 one article did stress that one should not confuse one
type of parasite egg with the oocysts of the cocci
protozoans.

 basic H  may very well be the way to go-- at least you can
mess up the protective coating on the parasite..


  

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Re: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control

[Barb Lee]

Hi Terry,
Great stuff.  The biggest problem with cocci for me at the moment is 
right inside the barn.  Add to that, the need to keep the sheep off the 
pasture and in sacrifice areas for just the part of the year that 
favors cocci (in my particular program).  Even though the paddock the 
lambs were in was rested all summer(UV rays are lethal), there are 
certain areas that just can't be adequately de-contaminated.

I have had good success knocking the numbers down with Corid, but all 
the drugs are detrimental.  Corid suppresses Thiamin, which I think is 
the same thing poisonous bracken fern does.  Nobody is clinical yet, 
so when the Basic H comes, I'll see whether it does any good.

Ah!  here's a good bit of info...Immunity (resistance) occurs 3-4 weeks 
after exposure.  So I'll keep an eye on things, and try the Basic H 
when it comes, if I don't need urgently to treat beforehand.

Identifying cocci oocysts is extremely easy when you know what you're 
looking for.  They are about 1/4 the size of an H. Contortus egg or 
less, and they look like a hard boiled egg sliced lengthwise, with a 
tiny little polar cap at the narrow end.  They are the hardest of all 
the parasites to identify when one is first learning.

Barb

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Subject: [Blackbelly] Cocci Control


 Well, I  looked in a lot of places, and asked questions in
 a few more

 The Cocci  that sheep and goats deal with are pretty much
 resistant, and the only good, natural way to keep them
 under control is to manage pastures and herds in such a
 manner that the natural immunity that developes by being
 exposed to low numbers is permitted to develope within the
 animal.

 A strict MIG program is of use, as it helps reduce the
 number of infective larvae that have access to the animals
 by killing them off with cold, feeding by other animals (
 chickens, cows, horses) and changes in the vegetative
 makeup of the paddocks.   So, rotational grazing, intensive
 grazing, alternationg the use of the paddock between
 vegetative crop and pasture, etc, help  keep things under
 control.

 one article did stress that one should not confuse one
 type of parasite egg with the oocysts of the cocci
 protozoans.

 basic H  may very well be the way to go-- at least you can
 mess up the protective coating on the parasite..


 
 
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