Re: [Blackbelly] Electric Net Fencing
Mary OK, It sounds like electronet is not a good ides, especially since I am still trying to develop some dog broke sheep. Tom -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info]on Behalf Of Mary Swindell Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 6:22 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Electric Net Fencing Tom, I have used electronet with step in posts for interior fencing. I bought the taller version (42 inches) for my blackbelly sheep. It came from Premier Fencing, and I think they called the taller version "Electrostop". The big thing to watch out for, any time when using electronet fencing is that you must always keep it on if sheep are in the area. This is because if you keep it off part time, they will start to play in it, and can get tangled in it and even strangle themselves if left alone long enough. And I have used it to fence a 100 x 200 herding practice area. My border collies were gentle, fully trained dogs who would not rush the sheep near a fence. But I wouldn't recommend it for training young, inexperienced dogs, as the young dogs could push the sheep right through the electronet fence in their enthusiasm, and you could end up with a big tangled mess. Because I have herding clinics here where visiting dogs come to train, I ended up replacing my electronet fencing in the 100 x 200 area with combination cattle panel (rigid 16-foot sections, 4.5 feet tall, with smaller openings near the bottom like the shorter hog panel). The cattle panel is strong enough to withstand the pressures of working sheep with dogs and is better suited for that situation. I also have about four 160-foot rolls the tall electronet fencing that I will probably never take the time to fix, as they have big holes in them where I had to cut out tangled sheep (duh, I learned the hard way not to turn my electronet fencing off, ha ha!) They are available cheap to someone who wants to weave in repair pieces! Mary Swindell At 05:01 PM 5/2/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 15:43:50 -0600 >From: "Tom Quinn" >To: >Subject: [Blackbelly] Possible temporary fences for herding? >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I have just finished a new corral for my sheep. Next I plan to build a >training pen to work the Border Collies. >Until I get the permanent pen finished, I wonder if anyone has any >experience with temporary fencing for this purpose? >I was thinking about something like electrified net with step in posts; size >maybe 30 x 50 or bigger. > >I would appreciate comments > >Tom Quinn ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric Net Fencing
Tom, I have used electronet with step in posts for interior fencing. I bought the taller version (42 inches) for my blackbelly sheep. It came from Premier Fencing, and I think they called the taller version "Electrostop". The big thing to watch out for, any time when using electronet fencing is that you must always keep it on if sheep are in the area. This is because if you keep it off part time, they will start to play in it, and can get tangled in it and even strangle themselves if left alone long enough. And I have used it to fence a 100 x 200 herding practice area. My border collies were gentle, fully trained dogs who would not rush the sheep near a fence. But I wouldn't recommend it for training young, inexperienced dogs, as the young dogs could push the sheep right through the electronet fence in their enthusiasm, and you could end up with a big tangled mess. Because I have herding clinics here where visiting dogs come to train, I ended up replacing my electronet fencing in the 100 x 200 area with combination cattle panel (rigid 16-foot sections, 4.5 feet tall, with smaller openings near the bottom like the shorter hog panel). The cattle panel is strong enough to withstand the pressures of working sheep with dogs and is better suited for that situation. I also have about four 160-foot rolls the tall electronet fencing that I will probably never take the time to fix, as they have big holes in them where I had to cut out tangled sheep (duh, I learned the hard way not to turn my electronet fencing off, ha ha!) They are available cheap to someone who wants to weave in repair pieces! Mary Swindell At 05:01 PM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 15:43:50 -0600 From: "Tom Quinn" To: Subject: [Blackbelly] Possible temporary fences for herding? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have just finished a new corral for my sheep. Next I plan to build a training pen to work the Border Collies. Until I get the permanent pen finished, I wonder if anyone has any experience with temporary fencing for this purpose? I was thinking about something like electrified net with step in posts; size maybe 30 x 50 or bigger. I would appreciate comments Tom Quinn ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing
What I do is simply plan for the gate to be the last fence section (between the last two posts) and if possible I end it next to a building or other fence, so I can screw a hook into the building or wooden fence post and tie a small loop with bailing twine near the top of the end post, then simply hook it in place and unhook and hold the fence back when I want to go through. If I want to leave it open, I carry the end post back a few feet out of the way, keeping the fence taut, and stick the post into the ground. To make it as convenient as possible, try also to make your electric attachment at that point, so you can unclip it before you touch the fence. Otherwise you have to walk over to wherever the attachment is and unclip it, or turn off the electricity Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Carr DuPuy" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing Dayna, from the Premier 1 site http://www.premier1supplies.com/videos/index.php this is a video showing how to make a gate in your net fence. It may still be a problem like your husband says. It may still be a lot of work. Carr -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Dayna Denmark Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:36 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing Last year I was going to use my tax return to buy Kencove's electranet fence. I thought it would be great for a portable fencing system. my husband, bless his heart, asked me how are you going to install a gate with this thing?? he was right. Think about it..if you want it to be portable but still have a way of getting in and out you need a gate. Somehow the current must make it from one side of the gate to the other. Not as easy as it sounds. Not very portable either. I guess if you just moved it around in the pasture it would work. But the sheep would be inside and you would be outside unless of course you ran a hot wire thru the tubing of the fence or buried it underground under the fence...a lot of work in my opinion. Barbara, I would encourage you to use more than a two strand hotwire fence. At first, anyway. The problem is some sheep will try to go under, some will try to go over, and some will try to go thru the middle. I think a space of 26 inches is two wide, and unless they get "bit" by the hotwire on their nose they might just go right thru the fence. Start with five strands and once they get "trained" you can use less. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing
At 05:35 PM 3/24/2009, Dayna Denmark wrote: >Last year I was going to use my tax return to buy Kencove's electranet fence. >I thought it would be great for a portable fencing system. my husband, bless >his heart, asked me how are you going to install a gate with this thing?? >he was right. Think about it..if you want it to be portable but still have a >way of getting in and out you need a gate. Somehow the current must make it >from one side of the gate to the other. Not as easy as it sounds. Not very >portable either. >I guess if you just moved it around in the pasture it would work. But the >sheep would be inside and you would be outside unless of course you ran a hot >wire thru the tubing of the fence or buried it underground under the fence...a >lot of work in my opinion. > >Barbara, I would encourage you to use more than a two strand hotwire fence. At >first, anyway. The problem is some sheep will try to go under, some will try >to go over, and some will try to go thru the middle. I think a space of 26 >inches is two wide, and unless they get "bit" by the hotwire on their nose >they might just go right thru the fence. >Start with five strands and once they get "trained" you can use less. >Dayna Denmark >Half Ass Acres That's not how electric fences work. They are *not* a complete circuit, so you don't need the current to "jump the gate". If you were to complete the circuit, it wouldn't work! That's what the sheep's nose is for... They have worked out the issue of how to move, etc. You just need to read the instructions, they should already be on the Premier/Ken Cove site. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing
Dayna, from the Premier 1 site http://www.premier1supplies.com/videos/index.php this is a video showing how to make a gate in your net fence. It may still be a problem like your husband says. It may still be a lot of work. Carr -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Dayna Denmark Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:36 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing Last year I was going to use my tax return to buy Kencove's electranet fence. I thought it would be great for a portable fencing system. my husband, bless his heart, asked me how are you going to install a gate with this thing?? he was right. Think about it..if you want it to be portable but still have a way of getting in and out you need a gate. Somehow the current must make it from one side of the gate to the other. Not as easy as it sounds. Not very portable either. I guess if you just moved it around in the pasture it would work. But the sheep would be inside and you would be outside unless of course you ran a hot wire thru the tubing of the fence or buried it underground under the fence...a lot of work in my opinion. Barbara, I would encourage you to use more than a two strand hotwire fence. At first, anyway. The problem is some sheep will try to go under, some will try to go over, and some will try to go thru the middle. I think a space of 26 inches is two wide, and unless they get "bit" by the hotwire on their nose they might just go right thru the fence. Start with five strands and once they get "trained" you can use less. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing
That's a great idea to start with more then move 2 of the strands to make a bigger area. Thanks. I think I'll go for the rope. Our weeds are 10' tall and it's just too easy for it to creep through the netting. I guess I'll weedeat a 10' path for it initially. I think the clips to hold the rope go on the t posts. To go into the area could you just turn it off and go thought the rope? I'll pick up the directions and manufacturer next time in the feed store. Thanks for the help...as always. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing
Last year I was going to use my tax return to buy Kencove's electranet fence. I thought it would be great for a portable fencing system. my husband, bless his heart, asked me how are you going to install a gate with this thing?? he was right. Think about it..if you want it to be portable but still have a way of getting in and out you need a gate. Somehow the current must make it from one side of the gate to the other. Not as easy as it sounds. Not very portable either. I guess if you just moved it around in the pasture it would work. But the sheep would be inside and you would be outside unless of course you ran a hot wire thru the tubing of the fence or buried it underground under the fence...a lot of work in my opinion. Barbara, I would encourage you to use more than a two strand hotwire fence. At first, anyway. The problem is some sheep will try to go under, some will try to go over, and some will try to go thru the middle. I think a space of 26 inches is two wide, and unless they get "bit" by the hotwire on their nose they might just go right thru the fence. Start with five strands and once they get "trained" you can use less. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
