Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2013-11-24 Thread Michael Smith
BTW: keep an eye on your emails in Jan-April. This list lights up with all 
sorts of lambing stories and issues. If you have been keeping rams with your 
ewes, you'll likely have some too...

-MIchael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

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 On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Mike and Michael :-)
 
 Jann
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jann, and welcome.
 
 Here is some of the best advice you will get, at least IMHO.  Go to a sheep 
 equipment supply website and find a  sheep sorting gate.  Build a chute, 
 sorting gate on one end some other gate on the other.
 Life becomes far more simple.
 
 Mike
 
 
 On 11/22/2013 3:24 PM, mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi List
 
 I am new to the list and new to sheep husbandry. I just got (arrived on 
 Wed) a small flock of ten American Blackbelly Sheep and I live in Fountain, 
 CO.
 
 I look forward to learning a lot about my new flock of sheep. I spent the 
 morning separating my young rams from the main flock and found that there 
 is a lot I don't know. I thought I would share my thoughts on some of it. I 
 bet you have all been at this point and can appreciate my position. Any and 
 all input or suggestions are more than welcome :-)
 
 
 Things I didn't know -
 
 Lesson #1 When one sheep runs, they all run.
 Lesson #2 Calm quiet sheep in a small confined area, all getting along 
 well, suddenly become independent testosterone filled hellions once 
 liberated.
 Lesson #3  When not confined, boy sheep fight. With everyone. And if it 
 isn't enough to fight with the other boys and the girls a wooden box will 
 do just fine.
 Lesson#4 It is not easy to separate sheep. I have a new admiration for 
 sheep dogs.
 Lesson #5 No makeshift barrier is too tough for a sheep to tear down if he 
 is determined enough.
 Lesson #6 See lesson #1.  It is the true meaning of life.
 Lesson #7 If one sheep comes, they all come.
 Lesson #8 One person is almost too few to separate 3 sheep from the flock.
 Lesson #9  A portable panel is worth two humans.
 Lesson #10 I can out-muscle three young rams, but not by much.
 Lesson #11 Sometimes an open door is much scarier than being squished in a 
 very small space.
 Lesson #12 When sheep are really worried, they lie down.
 Lesson #13 I cannot move a reclining sheep.
 Lesson #14 In retrospect I now understand why shepherds have crooks.
 Lesson #15 Patience is a virtue.
 lesson #16 It takes about two hours to separate three rams from the flock 
 of 10 and get them into a stall on the other side of the barn.
 Lesson #17 This is still easier than the Yaks!
 Lesson #18 I need a really good breakfast. I think lamb chops are on the 
 menu.
 
 Jann
 
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2013-11-24 Thread mtnrdgrnch
I do hope so. Though I would really prefer a bit later in the year.  
Like March or April :-)  They were with a ram before I got them so I 
would imagine I will be having lambs sometime early next year.  I am so 
looking forward to it. We had kids this year and they were a real joy.


Best Wishes,
Jann
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From: Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com
To: blackbelly blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Sun, Nov 24, 2013 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

BTW: keep an eye on your emails in Jan-April. This list lights up with 
all sorts of lambing stories and issues. If you have been keeping rams 
with your ewes, you'll likely have some too...


-MIchael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks Mike and Michael :-)

Jann

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com 

wrote:


Hi Jann, and welcome.

Here is some of the best advice you will get, at least IMHO.  Go to 
a sheep equipment supply website and find a  sheep sorting gate.  Build 
a chute, sorting gate on one end some other gate on the other.

Life becomes far more simple.

Mike



On 11/22/2013 3:24 PM, mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:
Hi List

I am new to the list and new to sheep husbandry. I just got 
(arrived on Wed) a small flock of ten American Blackbelly Sheep and I 
live in Fountain, CO.


I look forward to learning a lot about my new flock of sheep. I 
spent the morning separating my young rams from the main flock and 
found that there is a lot I don't know. I thought I would share my 
thoughts on some of it. I bet you have all been at this point and can 
appreciate my position. Any and all input or suggestions are more than 
welcome :-)



Things I didn't know -

Lesson #1 When one sheep runs, they all run.
Lesson #2 Calm quiet sheep in a small confined area, all getting 
along well, suddenly become independent testosterone filled hellions 
once liberated.
Lesson #3  When not confined, boy sheep fight. With everyone. And 
if it isn't enough to fight with the other boys and the girls a wooden 
box will do just fine.
Lesson#4 It is not easy to separate sheep. I have a new admiration 

for sheep dogs.
Lesson #5 No makeshift barrier is too tough for a sheep to tear 

down if he is determined enough.

Lesson #6 See lesson #1.  It is the true meaning of life.
Lesson #7 If one sheep comes, they all come.
Lesson #8 One person is almost too few to separate 3 sheep from the 

flock.

Lesson #9  A portable panel is worth two humans.
Lesson #10 I can out-muscle three young rams, but not by much.
Lesson #11 Sometimes an open door is much scarier than being 

squished in a very small space.

Lesson #12 When sheep are really worried, they lie down.
Lesson #13 I cannot move a reclining sheep.
Lesson #14 In retrospect I now understand why shepherds have 

crooks.

Lesson #15 Patience is a virtue.
lesson #16 It takes about two hours to separate three rams from the 

flock of 10 and get them into a stall on the other side of the barn.

Lesson #17 This is still easier than the Yaks!
Lesson #18 I need a really good breakfast. I think lamb chops are 

on the menu.


Jann



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[Blackbelly] New to list

2013-11-22 Thread mtnrdgrnch

Hi List

I am new to the list and new to sheep husbandry. I just got (arrived on 
Wed) a small flock of ten American Blackbelly Sheep and I live in 
Fountain, CO.


I look forward to learning a lot about my new flock of sheep. I spent 
the morning separating my young rams from the main flock and found that 
there is a lot I don't know. I thought I would share my thoughts on 
some of it. I bet you have all been at this point and can appreciate my 
position. Any and all input or suggestions are more than welcome :-)



Things I didn't know -

Lesson #1 When one sheep runs, they all run.
Lesson #2 Calm quiet sheep in a small confined area, all getting along 
well, suddenly become independent testosterone filled hellions once 
liberated.
Lesson #3  When not confined, boy sheep fight. With everyone. And if it 
isn't enough to fight with the other boys and the girls a wooden box 
will do just fine.
Lesson#4 It is not easy to separate sheep. I have a new admiration for 
sheep dogs.
Lesson #5 No makeshift barrier is too tough for a sheep to tear down if 
he is determined enough.

Lesson #6 See lesson #1.  It is the true meaning of life.
Lesson #7 If one sheep comes, they all come.
Lesson #8 One person is almost too few to separate 3 sheep from the 
flock.

Lesson #9  A portable panel is worth two humans.
Lesson #10 I can out-muscle three young rams, but not by much.
Lesson #11 Sometimes an open door is much scarier than being squished 
in a very small space.

Lesson #12 When sheep are really worried, they lie down.
Lesson #13 I cannot move a reclining sheep.
Lesson #14 In retrospect I now understand why shepherds have crooks.
Lesson #15 Patience is a virtue.
lesson #16 It takes about two hours to separate three rams from the 
flock of 10 and get them into a stall on the other side of the barn.

Lesson #17 This is still easier than the Yaks!
Lesson #18 I need a really good breakfast. I think lamb chops are on 
the menu.


Jann



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Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2013-11-22 Thread Michael Smith
Hi Jann, and welcome to the list. 

Being a city slicker new to animal husbandry myself, and now, a shepherd since 
2008, I can relate. This mailing list is a god-send to me and my ABBs. 

I second the notion of using a portable panel. I have a thin plywood 4x8 panel 
with handles screwed into it that I use as a moveable wall to slowly work the 
sheep I want into a corner and then clamp them. Especially handy for separating 
babies from moms and the crazy ones from a half-tame flock. We now have 14 
sheep and 3 goats. 

Since I started I have had three rounds of lambs, one round of bottle babies I 
wanted to raise that way, and a flying ewe right in the face. Had to drain a 
goofball sized cyst on a ewe lately (ate a foxtail that went into her cheek).  
Buried my favorite ewe this year due to a coyote attack. Still enjoying my 
sheep and looking forward to possibly exposing some girls to one of my rams in 
December for some April lambs.

All these experiences were shared with the group and I received the best of 
expert advice when needed. 

I have even devoted quite a bit of time to developing a walk-behind sickle 
mower that actually can harvest really tall hay, since we are blessed with some 
really great silage growing on our small 4-acre place in Northern California.


-MIchael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:24 PM, mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi List
 
 I am new to the list and new to sheep husbandry. I just got (arrived on Wed) 
 a small flock of ten American Blackbelly Sheep and I live in Fountain, CO.
 
 I look forward to learning a lot about my new flock of sheep. I spent the 
 morning separating my young rams from the main flock and found that there is 
 a lot I don't know. I thought I would share my thoughts on some of it. I bet 
 you have all been at this point and can appreciate my position. Any and all 
 input or suggestions are more than welcome :-)
 
 
 Things I didn't know -
 
 Lesson #1 When one sheep runs, they all run.
 Lesson #2 Calm quiet sheep in a small confined area, all getting along well, 
 suddenly become independent testosterone filled hellions once liberated.
 Lesson #3  When not confined, boy sheep fight. With everyone. And if it isn't 
 enough to fight with the other boys and the girls a wooden box will do just 
 fine.
 Lesson#4 It is not easy to separate sheep. I have a new admiration for sheep 
 dogs.
 Lesson #5 No makeshift barrier is too tough for a sheep to tear down if he is 
 determined enough.
 Lesson #6 See lesson #1.  It is the true meaning of life.
 Lesson #7 If one sheep comes, they all come.
 Lesson #8 One person is almost too few to separate 3 sheep from the flock.
 Lesson #9  A portable panel is worth two humans.
 Lesson #10 I can out-muscle three young rams, but not by much.
 Lesson #11 Sometimes an open door is much scarier than being squished in a 
 very small space.
 Lesson #12 When sheep are really worried, they lie down.
 Lesson #13 I cannot move a reclining sheep.
 Lesson #14 In retrospect I now understand why shepherds have crooks.
 Lesson #15 Patience is a virtue.
 lesson #16 It takes about two hours to separate three rams from the flock of 
 10 and get them into a stall on the other side of the barn.
 Lesson #17 This is still easier than the Yaks!
 Lesson #18 I need a really good breakfast. I think lamb chops are on the menu.
 
 Jann
 
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2013-11-22 Thread Jann Bach
Thanks Mike and Michael :-)

Jann

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jann, and welcome.
 
 Here is some of the best advice you will get, at least IMHO.  Go to a sheep 
 equipment supply website and find a  sheep sorting gate.  Build a chute, 
 sorting gate on one end some other gate on the other.
 Life becomes far more simple.
 
 Mike
 
 
 On 11/22/2013 3:24 PM, mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi List
 
 I am new to the list and new to sheep husbandry. I just got (arrived on Wed) 
 a small flock of ten American Blackbelly Sheep and I live in Fountain, CO.
 
 I look forward to learning a lot about my new flock of sheep. I spent the 
 morning separating my young rams from the main flock and found that there is 
 a lot I don't know. I thought I would share my thoughts on some of it. I bet 
 you have all been at this point and can appreciate my position. Any and all 
 input or suggestions are more than welcome :-)
 
 
 Things I didn't know -
 
 Lesson #1 When one sheep runs, they all run.
 Lesson #2 Calm quiet sheep in a small confined area, all getting along well, 
 suddenly become independent testosterone filled hellions once liberated.
 Lesson #3  When not confined, boy sheep fight. With everyone. And if it 
 isn't enough to fight with the other boys and the girls a wooden box will do 
 just fine.
 Lesson#4 It is not easy to separate sheep. I have a new admiration for sheep 
 dogs.
 Lesson #5 No makeshift barrier is too tough for a sheep to tear down if he 
 is determined enough.
 Lesson #6 See lesson #1.  It is the true meaning of life.
 Lesson #7 If one sheep comes, they all come.
 Lesson #8 One person is almost too few to separate 3 sheep from the flock.
 Lesson #9  A portable panel is worth two humans.
 Lesson #10 I can out-muscle three young rams, but not by much.
 Lesson #11 Sometimes an open door is much scarier than being squished in a 
 very small space.
 Lesson #12 When sheep are really worried, they lie down.
 Lesson #13 I cannot move a reclining sheep.
 Lesson #14 In retrospect I now understand why shepherds have crooks.
 Lesson #15 Patience is a virtue.
 lesson #16 It takes about two hours to separate three rams from the flock of 
 10 and get them into a stall on the other side of the barn.
 Lesson #17 This is still easier than the Yaks!
 Lesson #18 I need a really good breakfast. I think lamb chops are on the 
 menu.
 
 Jann
 
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2009-10-25 Thread GARLAND STAMPER
Peter and Kathy,

Welcome!  Am. Blackbellies are pretty interesting sheep to raise.  Where are 
you located??

Beth Stamper
Sierra Luna Am. Blackbelly Sheep
Powell Butte, OR 

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Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

2009-10-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009, GARLAND STAMPER wrote:


Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:05:35 -0700
From: GARLAND STAMPER gstamper97...@msn.com
Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] New to list

Peter and Kathy,

Welcome!  Am. Blackbellies are pretty interesting sheep to raise.  Where are
you located??



We are in Northern California (El Sobrante, a little city in the SFBA)

The sheep have been lots of fun, other than one scary mishap. A hole in the 
fence behind some bushes that we missed when checking allowed a neighbors dog 
to attack one of the sheep. (Baby - the runt naturally was the target). 
Luckily the sheep was not badly injured and after a week of cleaning the 
wounds and administering Penicillin shes fine)


After that episode we patched the fence very carefully, and bring the 
sheep into the fenced area near the house at night.





Beth Stamper
Sierra Luna Am. Blackbelly Sheep
Powell Butte, OR

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