Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed
Hi, Hope Lawrence is ok...who does he live with?? Other rams?? We've lost 3 sheep this past year for no apparent reason...healthy one day...down and not eating the next. Two were young ewes in with the flock and a ram and one was a jr ram in with other rams... The only thing we can come up with is that they all got injured. The rams bash each other which isn't too bad...but sometimes 3 get in on it and they slam one sideways. Easy to damage their guts. Sheep have a hard time recovering if their stomach system gets injured. We've tried lots of things...some, like you have suggested have worked and some things just haven't worked. It's the hard reality of raising livestock. One of our previous flock sires was rough with the ewes. He's in the freezer now and he tastes delicious in a roast or stew!! Our current young man is much milder tempered...if he stays that way...he can stay with the ewes... Garland says he won't tolerate unruly children, so he certainly won't put up with an unruly ram!! Just a thought. Beth in central OR It snowed in the Cascade mtns today!! Geeze! > I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed
I would suspect urinary problems also, or kidney if he has been fighting with another ram. You noted that he isareound pine trees and oak trees. Are there any acorns or [pine cones. acorns have a lot of tannins in them and cause digestive problems. Cecil in OKla - Original Message - From: "Julian Hale" To: Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed On 8/30/2010 3:35 PM, eubankac...@aol.com wrote: I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. Last Thursday he did not come to eat. He was lying under the trees away from the rest of the boys. I have him in a small stall to isolate him. I examined him for any obstructions such as cactus stickers or sticks. Nothing. His eyes are clear, no mucus from the eyes or nose. The eye lids are pink. But I wormed him anyway. There is no signs of bloat. Stools were firm. Our pasture is bare with only cactus, pine trees and oak trees. I feed a medicated feed to prevent coccidosis. I mix in a little alfalfa pellets and whole corn. I also give all the coastal hay they can eat. His temperature was normal at 103. I started force feeding Saturday with the same feed, but no corn, watered to a fine soup. I use a turkey baster. I gave him 2 cc of penicillin. Sunday he was still not eating so I force fed him again and gave him another shot of penicillin. This morning his temperature was up to 103.5 and tonight it went up to 104.5. I made sure he was getting water with the turkey baster and force fed him again with the soup but he now has diarrhea because of it. I will start giving him scours medication as well. He still will not eat on his own or any hay. What should I look for next besides a vet? Well, 103.5 could be considered high-normal, but 104.5 would seem indicate an infection... Have you seen him pee? One thing you need to watch out for in rams is urinary calculi, which can block up their urethra. This condition eventually leads to their bladder exploding, then they often lose their appetite and just sit or stand quietly. If he is at least trickling pee, you can give ammonium chloride to help dissolve the calculi and pass them out. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed
On 8/30/2010 3:35 PM, eubankac...@aol.com wrote: > I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. Last Thursday he did > not come to eat. He was lying under the trees away from the rest of the > boys. I have him in a small stall to isolate him. I examined him for any > obstructions such as cactus stickers or sticks. Nothing. His eyes are clear, > no > mucus from the eyes or nose. The eye lids are pink. But I wormed him > anyway. There is no signs of bloat. Stools were firm. Our pasture is bare > with > only cactus, pine trees and oak trees. I feed a medicated feed to prevent > coccidosis. I mix in a little alfalfa pellets and whole corn. I also give > all > the coastal hay they can eat. His temperature was normal at 103. I started > force feeding Saturday with the same feed, but no corn, watered to a fine > soup. I use a turkey baster. I gave him 2 cc of penicillin. Sunday he was > still not eating so I force fed him again and gave him another shot of > penicillin. This morning his temperature was up to 103.5 and tonight it went > up > to 104.5. I made sure he was getting water with the turkey baster and force > fed him again with the soup but he now has diarrhea because of it. I will > start giving him scours medication as well. He still will not eat on his > own or any hay. What should I look for next besides a vet? Well, 103.5 could be considered high-normal, but 104.5 would seem indicate an infection... Have you seen him pee? One thing you need to watch out for in rams is urinary calculi, which can block up their urethra. This condition eventually leads to their bladder exploding, then they often lose their appetite and just sit or stand quietly. If he is at least trickling pee, you can give ammonium chloride to help dissolve the calculi and pass them out. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed
What kind of condition is your ram in - is he very skinny, normal or fat? If he is skinny it could be Johnnes disease. I would be looking for an injury. This could be in the mouth. Or is it possible he has been hit by another ram? I have lost rams from getting hit in the ribs by another ram (cheap shot). Does he have any kind of limp, or hold his head not quite right? At 14 months of age coming into the fall season there is going to be some fighting with the rams. Sorry I do not have more to offer. Mark Wintermute Subject: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. Last Thursday he did not come to eat. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed
I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. Last Thursday he did not come to eat. He was lying under the trees away from the rest of the boys. I have him in a small stall to isolate him. I examined him for any obstructions such as cactus stickers or sticks. Nothing. His eyes are clear, no mucus from the eyes or nose. The eye lids are pink. But I wormed him anyway. There is no signs of bloat. Stools were firm. Our pasture is bare with only cactus, pine trees and oak trees. I feed a medicated feed to prevent coccidosis. I mix in a little alfalfa pellets and whole corn. I also give all the coastal hay they can eat. His temperature was normal at 103. I started force feeding Saturday with the same feed, but no corn, watered to a fine soup. I use a turkey baster. I gave him 2 cc of penicillin. Sunday he was still not eating so I force fed him again and gave him another shot of penicillin. This morning his temperature was up to 103.5 and tonight it went up to 104.5. I made sure he was getting water with the turkey baster and force fed him again with the soup but he now has diarrhea because of it. I will start giving him scours medication as well. He still will not eat on his own or any hay. What should I look for next besides a vet? ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
