[Blackbelly] scours

2009-07-24 Thread Nancy Tom Richardson
I have a bottle jacob ram  lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is 
almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He 
is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours 
when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a grey 
color normally. I give pepto etc and they go away. But no growth. He drinks 
milk egarly and does graze. I have good alfalfa hay for him to eat and he 
does eat hay. Any ideas? I have not had this problem before or since. He is 
in a pen with 25 other lambs and they don't have any problems. Nancy 


___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


Re: [Blackbelly] scours

2009-07-24 Thread Onalee Israel
Have you tried giving him some Coccidiosis medicine or antibiotics in case
there is a chronic infection causing the scours?
How about some Probios to help his digestion?

We had one ewe that did this periodically, we treated with anitboitics
whenever she got them and eventually they stopped, although she always was
on the thin side, but she produced plenty of milk and raised beautiful
lambs.

Onalee


-Original Message-
From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info
[mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Nancy 
Tom Richardson
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:35 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [Blackbelly] scours

I have a bottle jacob ram  lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is 
almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He 
is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours 
when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a grey 
color normally. I give pepto etc and they go away. But no growth. He drinks 
milk egarly and does graze. I have good alfalfa hay for him to eat and he 
does eat hay. Any ideas? I have not had this problem before or since. He is 
in a pen with 25 other lambs and they don't have any problems. Nancy 

___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


[Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!

2009-03-11 Thread Michael Smith
regarding:

Message: 3
I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45
days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I
would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked.
I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try.
Two days after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and
to this day has never had a problem.
The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from
www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read
all about it. I really urge you to give this a try.

Dayna Denmark
Half Ass Acres
.

I ordered some yesterday, and it's not going to be here till Monday.

Meantime, Pepto was working on the almost 4-week old healthy girls,
until I started letting them out for entire days with our green,
super-wet grass we already have growing like mad in northern
California. Now, I am thinking I might limit their time to an hour in
the eveningsRight now, the bottle-punchers are back in jail, with
some dry alfalfa and their normal milk/formula mix (which they were
getting when out in the pasture, as well, of course).  The 7-week old
goat kid dried right up with some Pepto and the green grass. I'm
thinking she's simply older and more capable of digesting, now.

And yes, Barbara, the Guava nectar I bought has a ton of corn syrup
in it, so I am limiting what Bam Bam gets.  The Pepto has greatly
increased his appetite, mood, temp, and is slowly firming his stool
up. Barely any more hunched look, standing more, starting to climb the
fence, and punches under my chin for milk. I no longer give him Sub-Q
and vit-B shots, since he's nearing a good 14oz a day (he's still a
bit over 4 lbs only)

If i find an actual guava, I'd be glad to throw it in our juicer.

here's hoping the Scoursgard shows up sooner.

Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


Re: [Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!

2009-03-11 Thread Clayton, Jason R MIL USA FORSCOM
For scours I have used yogurt or cottage cheese, as close to 100% natural as
you can get. Helps firm them back up as well as replace some of the bacteria
that helps their digestive system. May be worth a shot until you get your
scoursguard gets there.

-Original Message-
From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info
[mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Michael
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:44 PM
To: blackbelly
Subject: [Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!

regarding:

Message: 3
I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45
days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I
would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked.
I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try.
Two days after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and
to this day has never had a problem.
The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from
www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read
all about it. I really urge you to give this a try.

Dayna Denmark
Half Ass Acres
.

I ordered some yesterday, and it's not going to be here till Monday.

Meantime, Pepto was working on the almost 4-week old healthy girls,
until I started letting them out for entire days with our green,
super-wet grass we already have growing like mad in northern
California. Now, I am thinking I might limit their time to an hour in
the eveningsRight now, the bottle-punchers are back in jail, with
some dry alfalfa and their normal milk/formula mix (which they were
getting when out in the pasture, as well, of course).  The 7-week old
goat kid dried right up with some Pepto and the green grass. I'm
thinking she's simply older and more capable of digesting, now.

And yes, Barbara, the Guava nectar I bought has a ton of corn syrup
in it, so I am limiting what Bam Bam gets.  The Pepto has greatly
increased his appetite, mood, temp, and is slowly firming his stool
up. Barely any more hunched look, standing more, starting to climb the
fence, and punches under my chin for milk. I no longer give him Sub-Q
and vit-B shots, since he's nearing a good 14oz a day (he's still a
bit over 4 lbs only)

If i find an actual guava, I'd be glad to throw it in our juicer.

here's hoping the Scoursgard shows up sooner.

Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


[Blackbelly] Scours product for Bam-Bam

2009-03-09 Thread Dayna Denmark

I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45 days of her 
life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I would have tried that 
too if I had known about it. Nothing worked.
I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try. Two days 
after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and to this day has 
never had a problem.
The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from 
www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read all 
about it. I really urge you to give this a try.

Dayna Denmark
Half Ass Acres

 
___
This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep

2007-04-09 Thread Cecil Bearden
I have the same problem.  I had one that would start scouring 2weeks 
before she lambed.  I had one that would almost never get a firm stool.  
Right now I have about 8 out of 100 that are scouring over the new green 
grass.  I suggest worming, then a few doses of Pro-Bio to get the gut in 
order.  If the problem persists check to see if it is passed on as a 
genetic problem.  If so then get rid of those.

Cecil in OKla

Tracy Wessel wrote:
 I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone  
 in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the  
 flock).

 My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one  
 of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for  
 a year, they never got scours, and gained weight.

 The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery  
 and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It  
 is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and  
 beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose  
 minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the  
 rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking  
 it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral  
 block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper  
 in the block.

 My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up  
 and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much  
 weight after having scours.

 If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know.

 If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease,  
 nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss.

 Tracy
 ___
 This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
 Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
 llysheep.info

   
___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep

2007-04-09 Thread Carol Elkins
Tracy, you probably read  in the archives the discussion last sumemr 
about scours. Barb Lee no longer subscribes to this list, but she was 
having a devil of a time diagnosing the cause of the scours in her 
flock. She dewormed a bazillion times with every known dewormer and 
treated for strange diseases that her less-than-knowledgeable vet 
suggested might be the cause. If I remember correctly, two things 
were notable. The first was the relationship between molybdenum and 
copper in Oregon. I can't speak knowledgeably about this, so you 
might want to search the archives for molybdenum. The other thing 
was that she realized that she had literally poisoned her sheep by 
spraying the fenceline with RoundUp.

But it probably boils down to what Cecil suggested -- individual 
sheep have different tolerances or reactions to various foodstuffs 
and some simply scour more easily. Those you would want to cull if 
they persist after deworming and gut-stabilizing.

Carol


At 10:14 PM 4/8/2007, you wrote:
I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone
in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the
flock).

My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one
of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for
a year, they never got scours, and gained weight.

The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery
and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It
is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and
beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose
minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the
rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking
it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral
block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper
in the block.

My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up
and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much
weight after having scours.

If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know.

If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease,
nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss.

Tracy
___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Carol Elkins
Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
(no shear, no dock, no fuss)
Pueblo, Colorado
http://www.critterhaven.biz
T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the
Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep

___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep

2007-04-09 Thread The Wintermutes
Add some baking soda free choice.  If they need it, they will take it. 

We have also added free choice minerals that have a very low
copper/molybdenum and that has cleared up a lot of our problems.

The other item we now use is a sulphur salt block.  I don't remember the
purpose, will have Mark tell me again.


Sharon



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy
Wessel
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:15 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep

I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone  
in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the  
flock).

My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one  
of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for  
a year, they never got scours, and gained weight.

The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery  
and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It  
is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and  
beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose  
minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the  
rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking  
it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral  
block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper  
in the block.

My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up  
and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much  
weight after having scours.

If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know.

If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease,  
nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss.

Tracy
___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info


[blackbelly] scours, adult sheep

2007-04-08 Thread Tracy Wessel
I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone  
in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the  
flock).

My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one  
of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for  
a year, they never got scours, and gained weight.

The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery  
and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It  
is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and  
beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose  
minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the  
rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking  
it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral  
block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper  
in the block.

My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up  
and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much  
weight after having scours.

If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know.

If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease,  
nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss.

Tracy
___
This message is from the blackbelly mailing list
Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info