[Blackbelly] scours
I have a bottle jacob ram lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a grey color normally. I give pepto etc and they go away. But no growth. He drinks milk egarly and does graze. I have good alfalfa hay for him to eat and he does eat hay. Any ideas? I have not had this problem before or since. He is in a pen with 25 other lambs and they don't have any problems. Nancy ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] scours
Have you tried giving him some Coccidiosis medicine or antibiotics in case there is a chronic infection causing the scours? How about some Probios to help his digestion? We had one ewe that did this periodically, we treated with anitboitics whenever she got them and eventually they stopped, although she always was on the thin side, but she produced plenty of milk and raised beautiful lambs. Onalee -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Nancy Tom Richardson Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:35 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [Blackbelly] scours I have a bottle jacob ram lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a grey color normally. I give pepto etc and they go away. But no growth. He drinks milk egarly and does graze. I have good alfalfa hay for him to eat and he does eat hay. Any ideas? I have not had this problem before or since. He is in a pen with 25 other lambs and they don't have any problems. Nancy ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!
regarding: Message: 3 I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45 days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked. I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try. Two days after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and to this day has never had a problem. The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read all about it. I really urge you to give this a try. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres . I ordered some yesterday, and it's not going to be here till Monday. Meantime, Pepto was working on the almost 4-week old healthy girls, until I started letting them out for entire days with our green, super-wet grass we already have growing like mad in northern California. Now, I am thinking I might limit their time to an hour in the eveningsRight now, the bottle-punchers are back in jail, with some dry alfalfa and their normal milk/formula mix (which they were getting when out in the pasture, as well, of course). The 7-week old goat kid dried right up with some Pepto and the green grass. I'm thinking she's simply older and more capable of digesting, now. And yes, Barbara, the Guava nectar I bought has a ton of corn syrup in it, so I am limiting what Bam Bam gets. The Pepto has greatly increased his appetite, mood, temp, and is slowly firming his stool up. Barely any more hunched look, standing more, starting to climb the fence, and punches under my chin for milk. I no longer give him Sub-Q and vit-B shots, since he's nearing a good 14oz a day (he's still a bit over 4 lbs only) If i find an actual guava, I'd be glad to throw it in our juicer. here's hoping the Scoursgard shows up sooner. Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!
For scours I have used yogurt or cottage cheese, as close to 100% natural as you can get. Helps firm them back up as well as replace some of the bacteria that helps their digestive system. May be worth a shot until you get your scoursguard gets there. -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of Michael Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:44 PM To: blackbelly Subject: [Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!! regarding: Message: 3 I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45 days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked. I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try. Two days after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and to this day has never had a problem. The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read all about it. I really urge you to give this a try. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres . I ordered some yesterday, and it's not going to be here till Monday. Meantime, Pepto was working on the almost 4-week old healthy girls, until I started letting them out for entire days with our green, super-wet grass we already have growing like mad in northern California. Now, I am thinking I might limit their time to an hour in the eveningsRight now, the bottle-punchers are back in jail, with some dry alfalfa and their normal milk/formula mix (which they were getting when out in the pasture, as well, of course). The 7-week old goat kid dried right up with some Pepto and the green grass. I'm thinking she's simply older and more capable of digesting, now. And yes, Barbara, the Guava nectar I bought has a ton of corn syrup in it, so I am limiting what Bam Bam gets. The Pepto has greatly increased his appetite, mood, temp, and is slowly firming his stool up. Barely any more hunched look, standing more, starting to climb the fence, and punches under my chin for milk. I no longer give him Sub-Q and vit-B shots, since he's nearing a good 14oz a day (he's still a bit over 4 lbs only) If i find an actual guava, I'd be glad to throw it in our juicer. here's hoping the Scoursgard shows up sooner. Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Scours product for Bam-Bam
I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45 days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked. I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try. Two days after using the product the lamb started making pellets, and to this day has never had a problem. The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read all about it. I really urge you to give this a try. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep
I have the same problem. I had one that would start scouring 2weeks before she lambed. I had one that would almost never get a firm stool. Right now I have about 8 out of 100 that are scouring over the new green grass. I suggest worming, then a few doses of Pro-Bio to get the gut in order. If the problem persists check to see if it is passed on as a genetic problem. If so then get rid of those. Cecil in OKla Tracy Wessel wrote: I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the flock). My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for a year, they never got scours, and gained weight. The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper in the block. My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much weight after having scours. If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know. If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease, nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss. Tracy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info llysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep
Tracy, you probably read in the archives the discussion last sumemr about scours. Barb Lee no longer subscribes to this list, but she was having a devil of a time diagnosing the cause of the scours in her flock. She dewormed a bazillion times with every known dewormer and treated for strange diseases that her less-than-knowledgeable vet suggested might be the cause. If I remember correctly, two things were notable. The first was the relationship between molybdenum and copper in Oregon. I can't speak knowledgeably about this, so you might want to search the archives for molybdenum. The other thing was that she realized that she had literally poisoned her sheep by spraying the fenceline with RoundUp. But it probably boils down to what Cecil suggested -- individual sheep have different tolerances or reactions to various foodstuffs and some simply scour more easily. Those you would want to cull if they persist after deworming and gut-stabilizing. Carol At 10:14 PM 4/8/2007, you wrote: I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the flock). My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for a year, they never got scours, and gained weight. The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper in the block. My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much weight after having scours. If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know. If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease, nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss. Tracy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep
Add some baking soda free choice. If they need it, they will take it. We have also added free choice minerals that have a very low copper/molybdenum and that has cleared up a lot of our problems. The other item we now use is a sulphur salt block. I don't remember the purpose, will have Mark tell me again. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Wessel Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:15 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] scours, adult sheep I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the flock). My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for a year, they never got scours, and gained weight. The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper in the block. My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much weight after having scours. If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know. If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease, nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss. Tracy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] scours, adult sheep
I appreciate the archives of the list. It would appear I am not alone in having the odd sheep with unexplained scours (adult members of the flock). My flock seems to have a couple members that will get scours at one of their hillside pastures in Oregon. I notice when I moved them for a year, they never got scours, and gained weight. The one or two that will get scours will drop weight. It's a mystery and I'm rather certain it is related to a plant they are eating. It is rather lush pasture. Over the winter they will have hay, cob and beet pulp, salt and a protein/mineral block. I had them on loose minerals, but I was going through so much of them, I was certain the rodents must have been stealing, or that the sheep were just knocking it over. However they have at times had access to the horse mineral block which I have removed and I have some suspicions it's the copper in the block. My concern is to get the weight back on them. I have a ewe bagging up and I I'd rather hoped she was barren because she didn't put on much weight after having scours. If anyone has had some insite into this, I'd love to know. If it were the whole flock, I'd have great concern for disease, nutrition etc. But since it is the odd one or two, I'm rather at a loss. Tracy ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info