Questions: What is Scarpie? How do I get my flock tested? Does each animal need testing or just one? Please advise Thanks Jim fallis
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:08 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 Send blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of blackbelly digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Julian Hale) 2. David in Oregon (Brad and Aimee Andrews) 3. How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? (Julian Hale) 4. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Cecil Bearden) 5. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (RBMuller) 6. Re: Scrapie Ear Tags (Johnson, Oneta) 7. Re: New Web site (Johnson, Oneta) 8. Tags (Eldon Andersen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:12:38 -0800 From: Julian Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:00 AM 3/15/2006, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >(I suppose we should be glad our sheep have any ears at all. The folks >raising La Mancha goats (which are earless) have an interesting dilemma. I >believe they tattoo, which is REALLY a pain--literally.) Yes... I bought a La Mancha last year, and her tattoo is in the sensitive hairless area of the *underside of the tail*! That *had* to hurt! I don't plan on raising any myself, for that very reason. Julian ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brad and Aimee Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] David in Oregon To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow David you must live on the wet side of Oregon. We over here in the east have to pray and water like crazy to get something to grow in the summer. Brad ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:35:30 -0800 From: Julian Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink? To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've got two bottle lambs, almost 10 weeks old now. They're eating hay just fine, but they have not figured out the whole water thing, yet, so they still get bottles. I'd like to wean them, and get them acclimated to colder temperatures, but first they need to know how to drink water. Does anybody have any tips for me? Speaking of weaning, does anybody make a lamb sized gag? The little girl is driving me nuts... Thanks, Julian ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:18:30 -0600 From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The sale barn I use uses a thin metal tag. so far it has stayed in my Blackbellies ears better than anything else. Including the new OK state tag.. I never removed the metal ones and they are in there going on 3 years.. Cecil in OKla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags > > The only ear tag that works, in my opinion, is Premier's 2X tag. It has > been approved for most states' mandatory tags. I think it is the "plastic > tag-wide style" that you are referring to. Please check, however. > > Even so, these tags are not suitable for lamb ears because our sheep have > very tiny and fragile ears at birth. Wait as long as possible before > applying the tag, preferably until the lamb is 5-6 months old. To enable > easy identification of lambs, use the small brass tags sold by Premier and > apply shortly after birth. I have never lost one of these tags yet. > > Carol > > At 10:25 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: >>I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in >>California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 >>or plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which >>would be better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? >> >>Thanks in advance for your help! > > Carol Elkins > Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > (no shear, no dock, no fuss) > Pueblo, Colorado > http://www.critterhaven.biz > T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the > Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:00:20 -0600 From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I really don't know about other states but when the NAIS is implemented the scrapies tags probably won't be used. We will all have to buy a $2 tag per animal that has a chip in it so it can be read by a scanner. Apparently there will another system for flocks of birds and swine. My understanding on the horses is that they will have a rice size implant next to the mane. This will cost around $25.00 for each horse, mule, donkey. The vet here used to pay 25 cents for each animal health certificate. Texas Animal Health now charges $5 per certificate. There will always be more laws enacted by the suits that only know an office and have no idea where the food that they eat comes from!!! Extremely frustrating and just downright scary. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "helen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags >I use the small brass ear tags I get from Jeffers and have never had any > problem with them yet. As Carol says, they are small and fit the delicate > little ears of our sheep just perfectly. > Helen > > You wrote; > I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in > California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 > or > plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which would > be > better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:15:10 -0600 From: "Johnson, Oneta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know I am 100% against what they are planning. They can LAW you to death and make sure people get out of the animal business. I keep good records on all my animals and pay enough for it now. I do not think I can afford anymore. oj -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RBMuller Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:00 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags I really don't know about other states but when the NAIS is implemented the scrapies tags probably won't be used. We will all have to buy a $2 tag per animal that has a chip in it so it can be read by a scanner. Apparently there will another system for flocks of birds and swine. My understanding on the horses is that they will have a rice size implant next to the mane. This will cost around $25.00 for each horse, mule, donkey. The vet here used to pay 25 cents for each animal health certificate. Texas Animal Health now charges $5 per certificate. There will always be more laws enacted by the suits that only know an office and have no idea where the food that they eat comes from!!! Extremely frustrating and just downright scary. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "helen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags >I use the small brass ear tags I get from Jeffers and have never had any > problem with them yet. As Carol says, they are small and fit the delicate > little ears of our sheep just perfectly. > Helen > > You wrote; > I am ordering ear tags for the mandatory scrapie program administered in > California and have a choice between metal tags that come in a box of 100 > or > plastic tag- wide style, come in box of 20. Does anyone know which would > be > better to use for American Blackbelly sheep? > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > _______________________________________________ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:17:27 -0600 From: "Johnson, Oneta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] New Web site To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I checked out one of the sites lited on yours. I downloaded a trial one and it looks like it may work. I will just have to transfer all of my old files over. Thank you for your info. PS Does anyone have a good clip art of the ribbons or flags for support your troops. My sister just got back from over there but a lot of her fellow soldiers are still there. oj -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:47 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] New Web site I created this record sheet myself based on one that I saw somewhere else, but I can't remember where now. There are a lot of sheep record programs, some very inexpensive. You can find links to some of them on my Links page. I keep a database in Microsoft Access, but that program is not for the faint-of-heart. I would never use it again, but I can't change now because I have so much information in the database. For those of you who haven't visited my Web site recently, you might want to have a look. I gave the poor old site a total face lift a couple months ago, added a lot of new content, and made the site a lot easier to navigate. Pay attention to navigation panels on both the right and left sides of the screen. This site has the most comprehensive gathering of information on blackbelly sheep in existence. Feedback is always welcome, especially if your feedback can help make the site better. Please send your feedback to me privately so as not to clutter the list. http://www.critterhaven.biz Enjoy! Carol On 3/15/2006 9:25:48 AM, blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info wrote: > I keep records set up like I keep on my horses. However I like some of > the things on you flock record. Did you make it or did you purchase it. > If so where. I like the genealogy and pic info. Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep _______________________________________________ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:43:13 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Eldon Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] Tags To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here goes with my second attempt at posting--got the first one back. Turning off HTML was a new concept to me. We have been reading the letters and learning a lot. It is good to know there is support available since we know only one hair sheep person and one wooly raiser here. We've been on our hobby farm for two and a half years. We got started in hair sheep because we had been researching things to do with our new farm. At the time, our place was overrun with weeds and we had read that hairsheep were good foragers. We bought locally one Blackbelly (owner didn't know for sure but called her Barbado) and two other solid black, one with horns hair sheep (still aren't sure what breed or mix they are). Only one of the three "bred" ewes was. We sold one black ewe and our one black lamb. We soon decided we wanted to raise the Barbados Blackbelly and finally purchased three bred ewes in December from Carol Elkins after asking lots of questions by phone and e-mail and doing more internet research. We registered with BBSAI. All three girls are showing signs of soon coming lambs. Exciting! While placing our first order with Premier for our lambing kit, I accidentally found the brass lamb ear tags and applicator on the website. They are not listed in the 2006 printed catalog where I really expected to find them. Now that I think about it, Carol provided a link to the tags during the recent discussions--one mouse click and you're there. It was Issue 49 on 03/15/06. Eldon & Cynthia Andersen Wild Rose Farm Hershey NE ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This daily digest is from the blackbelly mailing list. Visit this list's home page at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info/ End of blackbelly Digest, Vol 2, Issue 50 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
