Thanks to all for your help in trying to determine what was wrong with this ewe. Sorry to say she had to be put down Lambs are doing great on the bottle. They will be well cared for and live a great life Thanks again to all for your help and concern Jim Fallis Palmer, Texas
Jim Fallis President Precise Adjustments, Inc 469-916-8335.................................Office 469-916-8339...........................Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: blackbelly Digest, Vol 3, Issue 55 Send blackbelly mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshee p.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of blackbelly digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Sheep and Horses (Chris & Eileen) 2. Re: Sheep and Horses (Stephanie Parrish) 3. Re: ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing (The Wintermutes) 4. Re: Sheep and Horses (Stephanie Jones) 5. Re: Sheep and Horses (Christine Handley) 6. late APR/early MAY transport trip - market item (Ron Keener) 7. Re: Sheep and Horses (Cecil Bearden) 8. Re: Sheep and Horses (Johnson, Oneta) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:57:20 -0700 From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other animals? Thanks, Eileen ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:08:53 -0400 From: Stephanie Parrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think that the best companion for your horse would be another horse. I do have a couple of older horses in with some of my sheep. They don't usually hang out together. Except for the ram, who has been a little forward with the horses - they don't seem to like him. Stephanie On Apr 12, 2007, at 11:57 PM, Chris & Eileen wrote: > My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for > companionship for my horse. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:29:21 -0500 From: "The Wintermutes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had a feeling this was the direction the ewe was heading. Like Cecil said, diagnosing over the internet with just a little information is very difficult. Mark Wintermute -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing I'm forwarding this from Jim Fallis regarding his ewe: >Well >Sad end to the latest saga at the Fallis Barbado Farm >We were not able to save the ewe that was down. The twins were born >over the weekend. We had no idea she actually had tripplets. We >discovered her down Tuesday. By that time the dead fetus had began >to decay and swell. We attempted to extract, but just not enough >room and the ewe was too infected by the poision of the decaying fetus. >I had the vet put her down and get her out of her misery. Now I have >2 bottle babies on my hands. They will be loved and cared for very well. >Thanks to all for your interest and mostly your concern and caring. >Jim Fallis >Palmer, Texas _______________________________________________ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:25:30 -0400 From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original We had 1 horse in with the sheep and now the horse is gone!! I saw him actually pick a full grown ewe up by the back of the neck and THROW her across the field. He didn't like to share the hay or feed, and was pestered by the lambs. I was terrified that he would stomp the babies on purpose. And, a friend of mine is nursing a 3 month lamb with a broke front leg and gapping neck wound because her horse done the same thing!!! Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses > Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep > herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for > companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other > animals? > Thanks, > Eileen > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:49:23 -0400 From: "Christine Handley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I had a QH mare that used to be with my sheep and goats. She was wonderful, the kids and lambs would run all around and under her. The older bucks would pasture with her and they would rub on her. Now she is gone and I have another QH mare, who I think would be okay with them, but my other mare , an Appy , absolutely hates any intruders. So I would be very hesitant to put the sheep or goats out with them. I think the QH have a natural liking for cattle and other herd animals. Whereas, Appaloosas, I have found are kind of "different". So far I have found that they have "quirky" personalities. Chris in Ontario. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses > Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep > herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for > companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other > animals? > Thanks, > Eileen > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:59:21 -0500 From: Ron Keener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] late APR/early MAY transport trip - market item To: Barbados Blackbelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello everyone! I had the FIFTH random roadside ag inspection in less than a year a couple weeks ago - it is imperative that any animals being shipped be totally LEGAL whether you use my transport service or some other means - some of the states are taking the USDAs 'passing of the NAIS baton' seriously! 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Then this mare bit the top of the head out of a lamb and ate it. It is only by the grace of God and my gun not being handy that I did not kill this mare on sight. I still have her if anyone is interested in a sheep killer. Before this I had a Morgan Mare and Gelding with the sheep all the time and never had any problems with them or dogs or coyotes. My Morgan Mare is gone now, but the Gelding is still here.... I had 2 donkeys with the sheep but they killed 2 lambs by stomping them. It depends on the horse. All horses are crazy, some more than others. Cecil in OKla Christine Handley wrote: > I had a QH mare that used to be with my sheep and goats. She was wonderful, > the kids and lambs would run all around and under her. The older bucks would > pasture with her and they would rub on her. > Now she is gone and I have another QH mare, who I think would be okay with > them, but my other mare , an Appy , absolutely hates any intruders. > So I would be very hesitant to put the sheep or goats out with them. > > I think the QH have a natural liking for cattle and other herd animals. > Whereas, Appaloosas, I have found are kind of "different". So far I have > found that they have "quirky" personalities. > > Chris in Ontario. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:57 PM > Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses > > > >> Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep >> herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for >> companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other >> animals? >> Thanks, >> Eileen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This message is from the blackbelly mailing list >> Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > llysheep.info > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:12:25 -0500 From: "Johnson, Oneta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My sheep run with the horses. I have more problems with my ram harassing the horses than vise versa. Oneta Johnson McLoud Telephone Company Data Entry/CSR Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses I had a 4 yr old QH mare with my sheep and she injured 3 ewes, chased one down and caused her to go into labor during one of the coldest nights we had this winter, she did not survive. Then this mare bit the top of the head out of a lamb and ate it. It is only by the grace of God and my gun not being handy that I did not kill this mare on sight. I still have her if anyone is interested in a sheep killer. Before this I had a Morgan Mare and Gelding with the sheep all the time and never had any problems with them or dogs or coyotes. My Morgan Mare is gone now, but the Gelding is still here.... I had 2 donkeys with the sheep but they killed 2 lambs by stomping them. It depends on the horse. All horses are crazy, some more than others. Cecil in OKla Christine Handley wrote: > I had a QH mare that used to be with my sheep and goats. She was wonderful, > the kids and lambs would run all around and under her. The older bucks would > pasture with her and they would rub on her. > Now she is gone and I have another QH mare, who I think would be okay with > them, but my other mare , an Appy , absolutely hates any intruders. > So I would be very hesitant to put the sheep or goats out with them. > > I think the QH have a natural liking for cattle and other herd animals. > Whereas, Appaloosas, I have found are kind of "different". So far I have > found that they have "quirky" personalities. > > Chris in Ontario. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Eileen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:57 PM > Subject: [blackbelly] Sheep and Horses > > > >> Does anyone keep other animals, particularly horses, in with their sheep >> herds? My interest in sheep partially comes from my desire for >> companionship for my horse. Any problems with the rams and the other >> animals? >> Thanks, >> Eileen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This message is from the blackbelly mailing list >> Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > llysheep.info > > _______________________________________________ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This daily digest is from the blackbelly mailing list. 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