Re: beta3 mouse shading
Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 01:42 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined where to insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works beautifully now. Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do a diff on my files versus the original source? basically. cd blackbox make distclean cd .. cp -a blackbox blackbox-orig cd blackbox hack hack hack make distclean cd .. diff -pruN blackbox-orig blackbox mystuff.patch the -pru option is the format I prefer, other projects may request -prc. Once you have your patch go to sf.net and place it on blackbox's patch tracker so others can enjoy. Thanks for the instructions! I've done this, and the patch is now uploaded to the sf.net patch tracker. --Matthew -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: beta3 mouse shading
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote: On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made an RPM. Yay! It works great. cd blackbox patch -p1 /path/to/patch Thanks. I will keep this command in my Linux journal so that I know what to do from here on. I don't mind patching manually though. I am not that big of a programmer, but I like to see some source sometimes. :) -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: decor updates in cvs
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 03:44 pm, you wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: does your window lose its close button unexpectedly? not that i've seen. seems ok so far. if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change? yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new change or not) was the window would get decor back but would think that it was decor-less (so if you toggled again it would continue to have decorations, a second toggle would turn them back off). point is the current behaviour seems better than what i'd previously observed. any way that they can continue to stay decor-less through a restart? Russ Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: decor updates in cvs
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 04:16 pm, you wrote: Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3? bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from blackbox. Wow. Now that is neat. Thanks. Again, sorry for the dumb question. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: Blackbox/GNOME conflicts
On Saturday 13 July 2002 05:06 am, you wrote: So basically if you want a specific feature not in blackbox and going over to fluxbox scares you then openbox may be then solution until blackbox acquires your feature. Just out of curiousity, why would Fluxbox scare anyone? -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Fwd: Re: Mandrake Linux menus
Forwarded because I am stupid.
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: Re: Mandrake Linux menus
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:35:57 -0400
From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I looked in that folder, and blackbox isn't in there. Fluxbox is, though. I
think I will just edit that one to my own specs.
Would a script in there called blackbox be executed then, when I run
blackbox, or just when I do an menu-update or whatever?
Thanks for the info!
On Friday 12 July 2002 10:58 am, you wrote:
On 12-Jul-2002 Ben Rasmussen wrote:
Did you compile bb yourself? I'm using the mandrake blackbox rpm which
includes a blackbox script in /etc/menu-methods/. I'm assuming this is
needed for mandrake to create the bb menu. I may be completely wrong,
however, as I'm pretty new to blackbox and linux.
nope you are 100% correct. They are using something either based on
Debian's menu system or created to match it.
in /etc/menu-methods is one script per wm. This script is given items for
a menu and it outputs the right menu. So if you had a wm which had a xml
menu it would get:
exec Mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla # made up for discussion, but close
enough
and output:
item
titleMozilla/title
exec/usr/bin/mozilla/exec
/item
whereas the blackbox script outputs:
[exec] (Mozilla) {/usr/bin/mozilla}
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Fwd: Re: Mandrake Linux menus
Forwarded because I am stupid. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Mandrake Linux menus Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:32:22 -0400 From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes I did. I compile stuff myself whenever possible. It's better that way. As the developers intended it to be and stuff. Anyhow, I guess my menu is good enough for now. If I install something new, I'll just add it in myself. No biggie. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. On Friday 12 July 2002 10:47 am, you wrote: Did you compile bb yourself? I'm using the mandrake blackbox rpm which includes a blackbox script in /etc/menu-methods/. I'm assuming this is needed for mandrake to create the bb menu. I may be completely wrong, however, as I'm pretty new to blackbox and linux. hope this helps. Ben the pAved earth http://www.thepavedearth.com -- Original Message -- From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:51:27 -0400 On Thursday 11 July 2002 03:41 pm, you wrote: Hello, Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit it using the menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your environment to blackbox. That's strange... Look: [dana@digory dana]$ cd /etc/X11/blackbox/ bash: cd: /etc/X11/blackbox/: No such file or directory [dana@digory dana]$ What am I doing wrong? I am in Blackbox now (it's the onyl WM I use now - it rocks), so I KNOW that it works. My current menu file is in my ~/.blackbox/ folder. I don't want just Mandrake's menu as my Blackbox menu, as I like the options to configure and restart and quit bb in there. As well as other stuff. Oh, and FYI, menu-update is included with Mandrake too, but I never used it. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting. --- -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: Mandrake Linux menus
Thanks. I think all I would need is the fluxbox script, but I'll take all the help I can get. I have set up my menus just the way I like it. The only thing that would make it the best is if I can autoupdate one of my submenus automagically. That's my next goal, to write a script that will do that. I know where to start, I just gotta... start. I think I may write a tutorial or two on setting up Blackbox from source on my website for other noobs... Maybe I will do that once I get my script done. I love this WM more and more every second I use it... I just added a Drives menu that will mount each drive and then open it in a file manager, and a second option that unmounts the drive. Works perfectly with my DVD-ROM, CD-RW, Floppy, and USB pen drive. :) I don't think I will ever go back to KDE, nor will I even be excited to try E17. Blackbox has proven it's worth to me. I am only sorry that it took this long for me to finally give it an honest chance. On Friday 12 July 2002 12:40 pm, you wrote: On 12-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote: I looked in that folder, and blackbox isn't in there. Fluxbox is, though. I think I will just edit that one to my own specs. Would a script in there called blackbox be executed then, when I run blackbox, or just when I do an menu-update or whatever? Thanks for the info! yeah, a script in there would be run whenever their tool is run. Enclosed is the Debian script, I do not know for certain it will work, but the idea combined with the flux one should get you going. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: Mandrake Linux menus
On Thursday 11 July 2002 03:41 pm, you wrote: Hello, Mandrake generates a blackbox menu automatically. Just include /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu in your blackbox menu. You can also edit it using the menudrake utility. In menudrake, make sure you change your environment to blackbox. That's strange... Look: [dana@digory dana]$ cd /etc/X11/blackbox/ bash: cd: /etc/X11/blackbox/: No such file or directory [dana@digory dana]$ What am I doing wrong? I am in Blackbox now (it's the onyl WM I use now - it rocks), so I KNOW that it works. My current menu file is in my ~/.blackbox/ folder. I don't want just Mandrake's menu as my Blackbox menu, as I like the options to configure and restart and quit bb in there. As well as other stuff. Oh, and FYI, menu-update is included with Mandrake too, but I never used it. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: patches - WAS two slits possible?
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 09:58 pm, you wrote: Is it possible to have two slits running at the same time? I like to have gkrellm running in the lower left corner, and bbpager in the lower right corner. Running these in the slit is the only way I've found to keep from having these apps show up in the window list when using Alt+tab to traverse through open apps. I've asked here before if it's possible to have some apps not appear this way, such as is possible in fvwm by specifying 'CirculateSkip', but apparently this won't be possible til later. I just thought this would be one way of accomplishing this in 0.62.1. Also, I'm using a few patches, and wondering if they work with beta2, or if there are versions of these patches for beta2. blackbox-0.62.1-custom_titlebar-fab.patch blackbox-0.62.1-mouse_wheel.patch blackbox-0.62.1-sloppy_raise_anywhere.diff Or, have any of these been incorporated into the latest releases? Thanks for the help. I am just wondering about that mouse wheel patch... Is there any reason why it wouldn't be incorporated into the next Blackbox release? I mean, it should be stable enough, and I don't think that it really slows down the interface any. In fact, I really loved it when I had it in beta1... I don't know about beta2 yet. I find that the mouse wheel patch makes it much faster to switch between my desktops, and I prefer that to the pager, which I use mainly for moving apps between desktops. Thanks. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: patches - WAS two slits possible?
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: I am just wondering about that mouse wheel patch... Is there any reason why it wouldn't be incorporated into the next Blackbox release? I mean, it should be stable enough, and I don't think that it really slows down the interface any. In fact, I really loved it when I had it in beta1... I don't know about beta2 yet. I find that the mouse wheel patch makes it much faster to switch between my desktops, and I prefer that to the pager, which I use mainly for moving apps between desktops. the biggest reason is I do not own a wheel mouse and neither does Brad. We dislike having any code that we can not personally test from time to time. Both of us are also on the fence about the aethestic of using the wheel for this. The mouse wheel was intended for scroll bars inside applications. Okay. I understand that, but also, the wheel does still work for scrolling in applications. It only scrolls through your desktops when your cursor is over the root window (desktop). If you want, I will buy you a scroll mouse (they are about $5CAD here or maybe less) just so that the mouse patch can be tested. I think it is a splendid idea, and it really adds to blackbox's efficiency. I am gonna give it a go at patching it myself manually... I am no programmer, but I think I can make it work just from looking at the source to the patch I found online. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Mandrake Linux menus
I use this distro (please don't insult me) and when I looked at fluxbox's menu config file, it had a list of all the mandrake menus... And it said that the file was automatically generated and to not mess with it. I would like to write a script that adds the mandrake menus into my blackbox menu without and is automatically generated at login. I can do all that, except I don't know how I can get the mandrake menus generated into a blackbox menu file. Does anyone know how to do this? I did it manually by copying and pasting into the blackbox menu file from the fluxbox menu file. The result I achieved is that there is a Mandrake submenu with all the mandrake menu items in it. Thanks. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Re: new NETWM key grabber
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 11:16 pm, you wrote: Hey folks. So, work has begun as of tonight on a next generation key handler for blackbox. It will be written against the NETWM spec as much as possible. But, we're not sure just what kind of feature people out there want in their keyhandler. So, I'd like to take a bit of a poll. Do you use the window list cycling currently found in bbkeys? Thanks for your feedback! xOr For window cycling I use CTRL+TAB and ALT+TAB... I set that up in bbkeys, yes. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Hello.
I have a question. When I run bbpager -w, it makes the slit huge, vertically. Can I make it go in there horizontally? Thanks. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
Mouse Wheel Patch for newest beta?
I just upgraded today to the new release, and I don't have the mouse wheel patch. Can I just use the one from http://bbtools.thelinuxcommunity.org/sources/patches/wheel-mouse.patch or do I need to do something else? Mr. X helped me get the mouse wheel going in the last beta, in case you were wondering. -- D. Olson The Mandrake eXPerience http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ MUB-NWN http://nwn.by-a.com/ WinXP - the best thing since induced vomitting.
