Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all,

I would like to move the Guile instructions to what I feel is a
more proper category, the "Programming" section.

Currently it is in the "General Libraries" section, which to me,
doesn't accurately reflect what Guile is intended to be.

Here is an excerpt from
http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html#whatisit

"Guile is a programming language

Guile is an interpreter for the Scheme programming language,
packaged as a library which can be incorporated into your programs.
Your users have full access to the interpreter, so Guile itself can
be extended, based on the needs of the user. The result is a
scripting language tailored to your application"

What say the group?

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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/11/05 10:35 CST:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to move the Guile instructions to what I feel is a
> more proper category, the "Programming" section.

A bit more research digs up this from the Guile info pages:

"The Guile Reference Manual
 **

This reference manual documents Guile, GNU's Ubiquitous Intelligent
Language for Extensions."

And this:

"4 What is Guile?


Guile is an interpreter for the Scheme programming language, packaged
for use in a wide variety of environments.  Guile implements Scheme as
described in the Revised^5 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme
(usually known as R5RS), providing clean and general data and control
structures.  Guile goes beyond the rather austere language presented in
R5RS, extending it with a module system, full access to POSIX system
calls, networking support, multiple threads, dynamic linking, a foreign
function call interface, powerful string processing, and many other
features needed for programming in the real world.

   Like a shell, Guile can run interactively, reading expressions from
the user, evaluating them, and displaying the results, or as a script
interpreter, reading and executing Scheme code from a file."

There are many more references in the info pages about Guile being a
"programming language".

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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/11/05 10:35 CST:
Hi all,
I would like to move the Guile instructions to what I feel is a
more proper category, the "Programming" section.

Since there is a command interpreter, I agree.  I'm not familiar with guile 
or scheme, but a program that interprets commands belongs in the 
programming section just as Python does.

BTW, PHP belongs in the programming section too.  If we did perl instead of 
LFS doing it, it would go there too.

Reviewing the contents, I lean toward a change in organization in this 
area.  Chapter 23, Databases, is a lot more than "Content Serving" and FTP 
servers don't really go in the "Web Serving" chapter.

Right now we have this organization:
Server Networking
  Mail Server Software
  Other Server Software
Content Serving
  Databases
  Web Serving
I propose to reorganize these as the following:
Servers
  Major Servers
Apache
BIND
move NFS to here from Chapter 18 (Basic NW Pgms)
OpenSSH
ProFTPD
Samba
vsFTPD
xinetd
  Mail Servers
[unchanged, but reorder alphabetically]
  Databases
 [unchanged]
  Other Servers
 [the rest]
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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 11 de Abril de 2005 19:23, Bruce Dubbs escribió:

>
> I propose to reorganize these as the following:
>

A similar propossal is at my TODO for when in can start to doing real work in 
BLFS as editor ;-)

Then, I agree.


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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 04/11/05 12:23 CST:
>>Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/11/05 10:35 CST:
>>
>>>I would like to move the Guile instructions to what I feel is a
>>>more proper category, the "Programming" section.
>>
> Since there is a command interpreter, I agree.  I'm not familiar with guile 
> or scheme, but a program that interprets commands belongs in the 
> programming section just as Python does.
> 
> BTW, PHP belongs in the programming section too.  If we did perl instead of 
> LFS doing it, it would go there too.

Guile has been moved to Chapter 12. As far as PHP goes, check this
out. :-)

excerpt from:
http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2004-June/006401.html

> 
> First of all, I'm not sure why the chapter is called "Web
> Serving". Might "General purpose servers" or something along
> those lines be more appropriate?
> 
> There's three packages in this section. One is a web server,
> another is a general purpose scripting language (granted, 
> used primarily for web development, but still, it's a
> scripting language) and lastly, an FTP server.
> 
> How are the last two lumped into "Web Serving"?
> 
> I think PHP should be moved to the "Programming" section,
> ProFTPD moved to "Other server software" and the current
> "Web Serving" section reserved for Apache and the various
> modules which can added to Apache
> [snip]
> 

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Re: [OT]Re: LFS News Server

2005-04-11 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
If you want to post to a list, you can still do so via email at the 
corresponding list address.

Is there a way to configure Thunderbird to set the recipient 
automatically for me?  I prefer to use the news server, but can accept 
that keeping it read-only is probably the best way forward (at least for 
now).  If I respond to a post it wants to send to the news server 
though, and I can't see an intuitive option for overriding that.

What happens if you hit the "Reply All" button instead of "Reply" ?
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Re: [OT]Re: LFS News Server

2005-04-11 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
What happens if you hit the "Reply All" button instead of "Reply" ?
It tries going to the ML *and* the newsgroup.  It's slightly less work 
if I do it that way, so thanks :)

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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 04/11/05 12:23 CST:

excerpt from:
http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2004-June/006401.html
Sounds like we are in violent agreement.  I'll try to do the reorg tonight.
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Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:20:24PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> 
> Sounds like we are in violent agreement.

uhh. So does that mean we get to see a fight, or what?!?!

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