Re: [blfs-dev] proftpd unit tests

2012-04-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 05:32:43 +0100
Bruce Dubbs  wrote:

> I don't want to put an old version of a perl module in the book.  How do I 
> address this in the book?   External reference to Test-Unit-0.14 and a note 
> that 
> it is an older version?  Note that several tests fail with Test-Unit-0.25?
> Recommend skipping the tests?

Yes, I think so. The fact that it relies on an old version of the perl
module makes it look as though the test is unmaintained.

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[blfs-dev] Gnome 3.4 status

2012-04-21 Thread Armin K.
Hello there. As you may have noticed I have been upgraded a lot of Gnome 
3.4 packages for now. But there are still 62 of them left.

By grepping through the changelog, I have sucessfully managed to get 91 
packages up and running (not all of them are gnome packages), 20 of 
those are new packages. One package is still pending to be added, and 
one package has been removed - the one that bas been split into 6 source 
packages.

The library stuff is almost done - Only 13 packages remain to be 
upgraded. Then there are still 49 packages required to be done before 
BLFS would have full gnome 3.4.

I expect gnome-shell to be done in the middle of next week, maybe 
Wednesday or Thursday or so, depends on how much time I will have.
There are at least 25 packages that need to be upgraded in order to 
achieve that.

You may have noticed that I've chosen default prefix as /usr and 
sysconfdir as /etc since that is the most common configuration that just 
works (tm). However, I will switch to the standard GNOME_PREFIX and 
GNOME_SYSCONFDIR, but I would like to modify those directories a bit, 
since I am not sure if Gnome can be run in anything other than /usr as 
prefix and anything other than /etc as sysconfdir. I am proposing that 
we make some directories from the root file system (/usr and /etc 
hierarchy) symlinks to the GNOME_SYSCONFDIR and GNOME_PREFIX.

$GNOME_PREFIX/share/polkit-1 -> /usr/share/polkit-1
$GNOME_PREFIX/share/dbus-1 -> /usr/share/dbus-1
$GNOME_PREFIX/lib/pkcs11 -> /usr/lib/pkcs11 (I don't know how to expand 
the p11-kit modules path).

$GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/xdg -> /etc/xdg (someone pointed this out, for the 
menu stuff and autostart files)
$GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/pkcs11 -> /etc/pkcs11 (same for the one in /usr/lib)

and at last /etc/gconf -> $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/gconf for the apps that use 
GConf, but are not part of gnome, like xchat and gnucash.

Those should be mentioned at pre-configuration page, but only if 
GNOME_PREFIX != /usr and GNOME_SYSCONFDIR != /etc.

I would still make /usr and /etc default values for those things since 
that's the one I have tested. If someone else manages to get the things 
up and running gnome in anything other than those, then it can be 
modified as necesary.

For the PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PYTHON_PATH, PKG_CONFIG_PATH and XDG_* 
there is already configuration, so I don't need to talk about this.

If someone wants to test current packages, you are welcome. Please 
report or correct anything you might find wrong. Also, if someone wants 
to test with the GNOME_PREFIX and GNOME_SYSCONFDIR other than standard, 
then also feel free to write instructions somewhere, don't correct it 
just now in the book.

And for the end, I wanted to make new organisation of the gnome chapter.

For the Gnome Core:

I propose Platform, Shell and Utilities, but dropping the shell fallback 
and extras. Note that all of those packages are Core packages from upstream.

For the Aditional ones:
just changing Libraries to platform or moving non-libraries somewhere 
else, thus keeping Libraries.

Your move?
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[blfs-dev] RoxTerm-2.2.2

2012-04-21 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Andy,

This RoxTerm-2.2.2 is the version in your book. Is this the version you use?

[]s,
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Re: [blfs-dev] Gnome 3.4 status

2012-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote:
> Hello there. As you may have noticed I have been upgraded a lot of Gnome 
> 3.4 packages for now. But there are still 62 of them left.
> 
> By grepping through the changelog, I have sucessfully managed to get 91 
> packages up and running (not all of them are gnome packages), 20 of 
> those are new packages. One package is still pending to be added, and 
> one package has been removed - the one that bas been split into 6 source 
> packages.
> 
> The library stuff is almost done - Only 13 packages remain to be 
> upgraded. Then there are still 49 packages required to be done before 
> BLFS would have full gnome 3.4.
> 
> I expect gnome-shell to be done in the middle of next week, maybe 
> Wednesday or Thursday or so, depends on how much time I will have.
> There are at least 25 packages that need to be upgraded in order to 
> achieve that.
> 
> You may have noticed that I've chosen default prefix as /usr and 
> sysconfdir as /etc since that is the most common configuration that just 
> works (tm). However, I will switch to the standard GNOME_PREFIX and 
> GNOME_SYSCONFDIR, but I would like to modify those directories a bit, 
> since I am not sure if Gnome can be run in anything other than /usr as 
> prefix and anything other than /etc as sysconfdir. I am proposing that 
> we make some directories from the root file system (/usr and /etc 
> hierarchy) symlinks to the GNOME_SYSCONFDIR and GNOME_PREFIX.
> 
> $GNOME_PREFIX/share/polkit-1 -> /usr/share/polkit-1
> $GNOME_PREFIX/share/dbus-1 -> /usr/share/dbus-1
> $GNOME_PREFIX/lib/pkcs11 -> /usr/lib/pkcs11 (I don't know how to expand 
> the p11-kit modules path).
> 
> $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/xdg -> /etc/xdg (someone pointed this out, for the 
> menu stuff and autostart files)
> $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/pkcs11 -> /etc/pkcs11 (same for the one in /usr/lib)
> 
> and at last /etc/gconf -> $GNOME_SYSCONFDIR/gconf for the apps that use 
> GConf, but are not part of gnome, like xchat and gnucash.
> 
> Those should be mentioned at pre-configuration page, but only if 
> GNOME_PREFIX != /usr and GNOME_SYSCONFDIR != /etc.
> 
> I would still make /usr and /etc default values for those things since 
> that's the one I have tested. If someone else manages to get the things 
> up and running gnome in anything other than those, then it can be 
> modified as necesary.
> 
> For the PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PYTHON_PATH, PKG_CONFIG_PATH and XDG_* 
> there is already configuration, so I don't need to talk about this.
> 
> If someone wants to test current packages, you are welcome. Please 
> report or correct anything you might find wrong. Also, if someone wants 
> to test with the GNOME_PREFIX and GNOME_SYSCONFDIR other than standard, 
> then also feel free to write instructions somewhere, don't correct it 
> just now in the book.
> 
> And for the end, I wanted to make new organisation of the gnome chapter.
> 
> For the Gnome Core:
> 
> I propose Platform, Shell and Utilities, but dropping the shell fallback 
> and extras. Note that all of those packages are Core packages from upstream.
> 
> For the Aditional ones:
> just changing Libraries to platform or moving non-libraries somewhere 
> else, thus keeping Libraries.

I don't really feel qualified to comment.  I think you should just do what you 
what you think right, but I'd prefer to keep the environment variables so that 
experimentation is easier.  Of course there would be no guarantee that other 
values for the variables would work as intended.

   -- Bruce
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[blfs-dev] Plymouth

2012-04-21 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
Has anyone tried getting plymouth (the graphical boot splashscreen used by 
fedora, ubuntu etc) working on LFS?
It seems it requires using a ramdisk.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth


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Re: [blfs-dev] RoxTerm-2.2.2

2012-04-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:31:34 +0100
Fernando de Oliveira  wrote:

> Andy,
> 
> This RoxTerm-2.2.2 is the version in your book. Is this the version you use?
> 

No, I'm currently using 2.6.2, but it requires a python module,
lockfile: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lockfile

The install procedure for Roxterm-2.6.2 is quite odd:
python mscript.py configure --prefix=/usr
python mscript.py build
ln -s /usr build
python mscript.py install

Andy
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[blfs-dev] midnight commander

2012-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Should we drop mc from the book?  From what I can tell it has not been updated 
since 2005.  There are lingering utf-8 issues.

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[blfs-dev] mail servers

2012-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Do we want to continue to have three mail servers?  We have sendmail, postfix, 
and exim.

Postfix has been recently updated and is current.  Exim and sendmail were last 
updated in 2011 and the book's versions are not far out of date.

Exim builds with the current instructions.  Current is 4.77 (we have 4.67)
Sendmail is 8.14.5 (we have 8.14.4).

I'm inclined to keep postfix and sendmail and drop exim.  Postfix is used a lot 
and sendmail is a classic program (powerful, but difficult to use).  I don't 
have any experience with exim and don't know anyone who uses it.

   -- Bruce
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[blfs-dev] midnight commander

2012-04-21 Thread Tobias Gasser
Bruce Dubbs schrieb:
> Should we drop mc from the book?  From what I can tell it has not been 
> updated 
> since 2005.  There are lingering utf-8 issues.

new homepage:

https://www.midnight-commander.org/

i have no issues with utf-8 with the current 4.8.2

tobias
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