[blfs-dev] Xfce

2012-04-25 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello Everyone,

I notice that the Xfce page is still in the book source but is
commented out. I've just spent a few hours installing it and it wasn't
too hard to get it to a usable state. I don't think I'll be using it as
my default desktop but I think I will keep installing it as an option.
I could put in a few days work to rewrite the xfce page and bring it up
to date. Is there any demand? It seems to be well maintained, it was
easy to install, it didn't give me any problems. When first launched it
looks awful and needs a bit of clicking about in the menus to set the
icons, font preferences and theme and such like, but it works.

One issue is that Terminal uses the Gtk+-2 version of Vte, vte-0.28.2
so I'll need to put that back into the book somewhere. It might be best
to split it up into separate pages in an xfce folder and put the
vte-0.28.2 page in there with them. At the moment the xfce page is in
the window managers folder which isn't really appropriate, it's a lot
more than a window manager. There's even a CD burning GUI, xfburn,
which works pretty well

TL,DR: Any demand for/objections to me putting Xfce back into the book?

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Re: [blfs-dev] Xfce

2012-04-25 Thread Victor Wren
 TL,DR: Any demand for/objections to me putting Xfce back into the 
book? Andy
I'd love to see it in there, personally.  It's nice to have alternatives 
to Gnome/KDE, especially for people who are wanting a minimal GUI for a 
server.  I tried to get Metacity working following the BLFS directions, 
with little success, but I was able to get fluxbox working with 
instructions from another location, and by copying some of the setup 
from RIPLinux.

incidentally, I highly recommend Fluxbox as a lightweight WM with a lot 
of potential, and it would be nice to see it included as an option in 
BLFS.  I wouldn't mind seeing Metacity dropped--since it's so wrapped up 
in Gnome, by the time you've got all the dependencies satisfied, you're 
well on the way to installing Gnome anyway, and the project seems to be 
adrift since being cut loose from Gnome, but that might just be residual 
bitterness that I was unable to get it to work.
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Re: [blfs-dev] Xfce

2012-04-25 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:08:22 +0100
Victor Wren vw...@ponyhome.com wrote:

  TL,DR: Any demand for/objections to me putting Xfce back into the 
 book? Andy
 I'd love to see it in there, personally.  It's nice to have alternatives 
 to Gnome/KDE, especially for people who are wanting a minimal GUI for a 
 server.  I tried to get Metacity working following the BLFS directions, 
 with little success, but I was able to get fluxbox working with 
 instructions from another location, and by copying some of the setup 
 from RIPLinux.
 
 incidentally, I highly recommend Fluxbox as a lightweight WM with a lot 
 of potential, and it would be nice to see it included as an option in 
 BLFS.

Problem?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/fluxbox.html
If you like Fluxbox, you might also like Openbox:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/openbox.html
(I used Fluxbox for about 6 months before I discovered Openbox ;)

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Re: [blfs-dev] Xfce

2012-04-25 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:32:56 +0100
Victor Wren vw...@ponyhome.com wrote:

 I notice in the directions, it mentions needing an image viewer for 
 fbsetbg, but none of the utilities it lists (or doesn't list--I'm using 
 feh, which is recommended) are part of the BLFS install, even as an 
 outside Optional package.

The first one listed, display, is part of ImageMagick:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/imagemagick.html

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Re: [blfs-dev] Xfce

2012-04-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I notice that the Xfce page is still in the book source but is
 commented out. I've just spent a few hours installing it and it wasn't
 too hard to get it to a usable state. I don't think I'll be using it as
 my default desktop but I think I will keep installing it as an option.
 I could put in a few days work to rewrite the xfce page and bring it up
 to date. Is there any demand? It seems to be well maintained, it was
 easy to install, it didn't give me any problems. When first launched it
 looks awful and needs a bit of clicking about in the menus to set the
 icons, font preferences and theme and such like, but it works.
 
 One issue is that Terminal uses the Gtk+-2 version of Vte, vte-0.28.2
 so I'll need to put that back into the book somewhere. It might be best
 to split it up into separate pages in an xfce folder and put the
 vte-0.28.2 page in there with them. At the moment the xfce page is in
 the window managers folder which isn't really appropriate, it's a lot
 more than a window manager. There's even a CD burning GUI, xfburn,
 which works pretty well
 
 TL,DR: Any demand for/objections to me putting Xfce back into the book?

No objections as long as there is no namespace collisions in the different 
versions of vte or any other dependencies that may be needed.

I would like to see lxde in the book at some point.

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Re: [blfs-dev] About mc-4.8.3

2012-04-25 Thread Thanos Baloukas
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
  Thanos Baloukas wrote:
   The default home dir for mc is no longer ~/.mc but ~/.config/mc
   and can be changed by --with-homedir= option and via MC_HOME
   variable

  The standard is for configuration files to be in ~/.config.
  audacious is there as well as Qt and gtk configs.

I wrote that because the book mentions ~/.mc

Thanos


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Re: [blfs-dev] About mc-4.8.3

2012-04-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Thanos Baloukas wrote:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
   Thanos Baloukas wrote:
The default home dir for mc is no longer ~/.mc but ~/.config/mc
and can be changed by --with-homedir= option and via MC_HOME
variable
 
   The standard is for configuration files to be in ~/.config.
   audacious is there as well as Qt and gtk configs.
 
 I wrote that because the book mentions ~/.mc

OK, I changes the references in the book to ~/.config/mc

   -- Bruce
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