Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-22 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/04/2014 19:28, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 Pierre Labastie wrote:
 Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit :
 Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:

 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz

 These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?

 Stripping the shared libraries with --strip-debug, the executables with
 --strip-unneeded, removing src.zip and man, demo, sample directories, reduces
 the size of the tarball by roughly a factor of three (slightly less).

 I'll test that I can rebuild OpenJDK/Icedtea with those reduced binaries
 before uploading them.

Test OK


 OTOH, if somebody does not want to build OpenJDK/Icedtea, and wants to use 
 the
 binary as is, it may be better to keep demo, man, and sample (adds 7MB or 
 so).
 I do not know if src.zip is useful: It adds 40-45MB. Anybody knows what it is
 useful for?
 
 I have not looked at src.zip, but I think the man, demo, and sample 
 directories should remain for exactly the reason you say -- for 
 instance, some may only want java for something like fop and may not 
 want to build java.

Googling around, I found that src.zip is needed if you want to use a debugger,
in order to be able to see the source code. If we suppress the debug symbol in
shared libraries, debugging is impossible anyway.

Actually, if we want the OpenJDK binaries to be usable for development, we
should not strip, nor suppress anything. If we just want a JDK for building,
we can strip executable and libraries, suppress src.zip, demo and sample,
keeping man for documenting the executables.

Pierre

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Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote:
 Le 21/04/2014 19:28, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 Pierre Labastie wrote:
 Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit :
 Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:

 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz

 These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?

 Stripping the shared libraries with --strip-debug, the executables with
 --strip-unneeded, removing src.zip and man, demo, sample directories, 
 reduces
 the size of the tarball by roughly a factor of three (slightly less).

 I'll test that I can rebuild OpenJDK/Icedtea with those reduced binaries
 before uploading them.

 Test OK


 OTOH, if somebody does not want to build OpenJDK/Icedtea, and wants to use 
 the
 binary as is, it may be better to keep demo, man, and sample (adds 7MB or 
 so).
 I do not know if src.zip is useful: It adds 40-45MB. Anybody knows what it 
 is
 useful for?

 I have not looked at src.zip, but I think the man, demo, and sample
 directories should remain for exactly the reason you say -- for
 instance, some may only want java for something like fop and may not
 want to build java.

 Googling around, I found that src.zip is needed if you want to use a debugger,
 in order to be able to see the source code. If we suppress the debug symbol in
 shared libraries, debugging is impossible anyway.

 Actually, if we want the OpenJDK binaries to be usable for development, we
 should not strip, nor suppress anything. If we just want a JDK for building,
 we can strip executable and libraries, suppress src.zip, demo and sample,
 keeping man for documenting the executables.

OK, thanks for checking.  Let's leave it alone.

   -- Bruce

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Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz
 
 These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?
 
I have not looked at stripping. I did not worry about sizes, since they were
(almost) the same size as the preceding (1.7.0.51) ones.

Will look at it.

Pierre
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Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit :
 Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:

 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz

 These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?

 I have not looked at stripping. I did not worry about sizes, since they were
 (almost) the same size as the preceding (1.7.0.51) ones.
 
 Will look at it.
 
 Pierre
 
Stripping the shared libraries with --strip-debug, the executables with
--strip-unneeded, removing src.zip and man, demo, sample directories, reduces
the size of the tarball by roughly a factor of three (slightly less).

I'll test that I can rebuild OpenJDK/Icedtea with those reduced binaries
before uploading them.

OTOH, if somebody does not want to build OpenJDK/Icedtea, and wants to use the
binary as is, it may be better to keep demo, man, and sample (adds 7MB or so).
I do not know if src.zip is useful: It adds 40-45MB. Anybody knows what it is
useful for?

Pierre
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Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote:
 Le 21/04/2014 10:36, Pierre Labastie a écrit :
 Le 20/04/2014 18:08, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
 bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:

 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz

 These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?

 I have not looked at stripping. I did not worry about sizes, since they were
 (almost) the same size as the preceding (1.7.0.51) ones.

 Will look at it.

 Pierre

 Stripping the shared libraries with --strip-debug, the executables with
 --strip-unneeded, removing src.zip and man, demo, sample directories, reduces
 the size of the tarball by roughly a factor of three (slightly less).

 I'll test that I can rebuild OpenJDK/Icedtea with those reduced binaries
 before uploading them.

 OTOH, if somebody does not want to build OpenJDK/Icedtea, and wants to use the
 binary as is, it may be better to keep demo, man, and sample (adds 7MB or so).
 I do not know if src.zip is useful: It adds 40-45MB. Anybody knows what it is
 useful for?

I have not looked at src.zip, but I think the man, demo, and sample 
directories should remain for exactly the reason you say -- for 
instance, some may only want java for something like fop and may not 
want to build java.

   -- Bruce
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Re: [blfs-dev] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:

 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-i686-bin.tar.xz
 Missing OpenJDK-1.7.0.55-x86_64-bin.tar.xz

These tarballs are really large.  Have the binaries in them been stripped?

 Missing nmap-6.46.tar.bz2

Book md5sum e8c337456a692bada3ee53e7f5b87bac
DL   md5sum 5a36ad3a63d5b7ea5514f745a397436a

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