Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote:

> I choose mwm, hands down. It is much easier to work with. Just because
> you don't use the window manager portion of the package, Matt, doesn't
> mean that others don't. :-)
> 
> I really don't have a preference on where the package is located in
> the book, however. I just wanted to throw this out, in case there
> were others that were thinking the same thing. I'll defer to your
> opinion and the fact that it already is located in libs, so someone
> at some point made the decision once.

Why not put a "pointer" page in the "window managers" sections with the title 
"mwm" and the following content? (modelled after Konqueror page):

mwm- is the Motif-based window manager. It is packaged and installed 
with LessTif-. 

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Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote:

> "The primary objectives have been to develop the widget code of the
> LessTif Toolkit. Intermittently, the window manager (mwm) and the
> combination of UIL compiler and libMrm are being worked on."

I agree with Matt.  In this case the primary purpose of the package is
as a library.  The wm is an incidental side effect.  Best to leave it
where it is.

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Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 04/17/05 11:21 CST:

> Why not to add a mwm page in window managers like we already do in graphipcal 
> browsers for Konqueror or in the mail/news clients pages for Kmail/Knode?

Excellent suggestion, Manuel. Something like, "The LessTif package
includes a Motif clone window manager, mwm."

I will do this right after I commit my changes to the LessTif package.

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Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread M.Canales.es
El Domingo, 17 de Abril de 2005 18:10, Randy McMurchy escribió:

> I really don't have a preference on where the package is located in
> the book, however. I just wanted to throw this out, in case there
> were others that were thinking the same thing. I'll defer to your
> opinion and the fact that it already is located in libs, so someone
> at some point made the decision once.

Why not to add a mwm page in window managers like we already do in graphipcal 
browsers for Konqueror or in the mail/news clients pages for Kmail/Knode?
 

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Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 04/17/05 10:42 CST:

> The only thing I have at the moment that uses Lesstif is `xpdf', and 
> that certainly doesn't care about the window manager portion of Lesstif :-)

Well, to counter this, I'll say that at the moment on a system I
am building up, I have the choice of using twm or mwm as my choice
of window managers.

I choose mwm, hands down. It is much easier to work with. Just because
you don't use the window manager portion of the package, Matt, doesn't
mean that others don't. :-)

I really don't have a preference on where the package is located in
the book, however. I just wanted to throw this out, in case there
were others that were thinking the same thing. I'll defer to your
opinion and the fact that it already is located in libs, so someone
at some point made the decision once.

Thanks for the input, Matt.

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Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote:
In my opinion, the LessTif package belongs in the X Window Manager
section of the book, and not the X Libraries section. LessTif includes
the mwm Motif compatible window manager. Surely, we should move the
instructions, right?
What is Lesstif?  http://www.lesstif.org/FAQ.html#QU1.0 says it's a 
"clone of the Motif toolkit".  Therefore, IMO, it's a library.  The fact 
that it happens to come with a window manager too is purely incidental. 
 Note further down that same question in the FAQ it says:

"The primary objectives have been to develop the widget code of the 
LessTif Toolkit. Intermittently, the window manager (mwm) and the 
combination of UIL compiler and libMrm are being worked on."

The only thing I have at the moment that uses Lesstif is `xpdf', and 
that certainly doesn't care about the window manager portion of Lesstif :-)

Regards,
Matt.
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