Re: BLFS User Group [Was Re: Inetutils]

2006-06-13 Thread Dan Nicholson

On 6/13/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Where are you considering adding the note? To the "About system users
and groups" section in Chapter 3?


Yeah.


If so, then I think a message can't hurt. However, Bruce wrote that
page, so you should probably defer to his judgment.


Agreed.  Bruce?

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Re: BLFS User Group [Was Re: Inetutils]

2006-06-13 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 06/13/06 13:29 CST:

> If the other BLFS editors agree, I'll add a note saying that creating
> a new user will default to group 100, so you should create that.  And
> maybe I'll say something about putting all your users in a common
> group.  That should be intuitive to anyone with a decent *nix
> background, though.

Where are you considering adding the note? To the "About system users
and groups" section in Chapter 3?

If so, then I think a message can't hurt. However, Bruce wrote that
page, so you should probably defer to his judgment.

In any other section, I'm not sure it belongs.

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BLFS User Group [Was Re: Inetutils]

2006-06-13 Thread Dan Nicholson

On 6/13/06, Craig Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is this something that has
come up for in a discussion?  I don't mean to start a flame war
between the BLFS and LFS teams :)  It seems like part of a basic setup
to have a "users" group with an ID of 100.  If the LFS team does not
agree, it could always be part of BLFS's "configuring for adding
users" instructions.


Probably there could be a note in the BLFS instructions.
Unfortunately, groups are a bit of a sticky issue.  Some people would
not agree that there should be a common users group that all
unprivelaged users are a part of.  I think it is useful enough that it
should be mentioned.  On my system, I like to be in a common group
with the other users.  You can always set your permissions according
to your preference.

The problem you're having, though, isn't really related to have a
"users" group.  It's caused because you haven't defined any group.
The defaults for shadow from LFS say that any new user will default to
group 100 unless the group is specified.  There are some switches with
useradd that allow the group to be created from useradd, but I can't
recall them right now.

If the other BLFS editors agree, I'll add a note saying that creating
a new user will default to group 100, so you should create that.  And
maybe I'll say something about putting all your users in a common
group.  That should be intuitive to anyone with a decent *nix
background, though.

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