Re: [blfs-support] Setting Up "unix charset" in Samba Configuration File
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 05:40:46PM -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: > > How can I tell if I have "ISO-8859-1 data in the files offered by > Samba"? As I understand it, Samba is a general file server, so in > general it should handle all manner of files; hence I should use UTF-8, no? > I assume you are intending to use Samba to share some of your own (text) data with other boxes on your own network. For modern data, I assume UTF-8 will be correct. If you have created data using the limited set of symbols and accented letters in iso-8859-1 then the reverse would apply. If the data is all ASCII then either, but UTF-8 will then allow you to use any character in the future. N.B. You mentioned an American locale, so I've ignored the available variations for other character sets. Also, I don't use Samba (when I have to use windows, I use nfs to get data to/from my main systems). I'm just attempting to clarify the difference between the two character sets. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Setting Up "unix charset" in Samba Configuration File
On 12/11/2013 11:42 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:46:09AM -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: >> >> LC_ALL=en_US locale charmap -> ISO-8859-1 >> LC_ALL=en_US.iso88591 locale charmap-> ISO-8859-1 >> LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 locale charmap-> UTF-8 >> >> So far as I understand, US English installations work with either of the >> above charmap settings. >> >> Can someone explain the difference? > > So long as you use _only_ ASCII characters or the few symbols and > accented letters offered in it, ISO-8859-1 works fine. Once people > start using UTF-8 (like in my .sig), things break down. > > If you look at iso-8859-1 on wikipedia it will show you the limited > range of glyphs / codepoints it supports. What that page *doesn't* > mention is the encoding. For that, look at the UTF-8 page if you > are interested in the messy details. The point is that ANY latin-1 > (ISO-8859-1) character with a value greater than 0x7F is represented > by a single byte. > > However, when I send you the same character in UTF-8 it will occupy > more than one byte. For example, the copyright sign is 0x00A9 - in > UTF-8 that becomes 0xC2 0xA9 [ © ] if I've read the UTF-8 wiki page > correctly. > >> And what I should set in the Samba >> smb.conf file for "unix charset"? >> > If you have ISO-8859-1 data in the files offered by Samba, then I > guess you need to use 8859-1. Otherwise, use UTF-8. Windows has > supported UTF-8 for a long time. How can I tell if I have "ISO-8859-1 data in the files offered by Samba"? As I understand it, Samba is a general file server, so in general it should handle all manner of files; hence I should use UTF-8, no? Alan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Setting Up "unix charset" in Samba Configuration File
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:46:09AM -0500, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: > > LC_ALL=en_US locale charmap -> ISO-8859-1 > LC_ALL=en_US.iso88591 locale charmap-> ISO-8859-1 > LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 locale charmap-> UTF-8 > > So far as I understand, US English installations work with either of the > above charmap settings. > > Can someone explain the difference? So long as you use _only_ ASCII characters or the few symbols and accented letters offered in it, ISO-8859-1 works fine. Once people start using UTF-8 (like in my .sig), things break down. If you look at iso-8859-1 on wikipedia it will show you the limited range of glyphs / codepoints it supports. What that page *doesn't* mention is the encoding. For that, look at the UTF-8 page if you are interested in the messy details. The point is that ANY latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) character with a value greater than 0x7F is represented by a single byte. However, when I send you the same character in UTF-8 it will occupy more than one byte. For example, the copyright sign is 0x00A9 - in UTF-8 that becomes 0xC2 0xA9 [ © ] if I've read the UTF-8 wiki page correctly. > And what I should set in the Samba > smb.conf file for "unix charset"? > If you have ISO-8859-1 data in the files offered by Samba, then I guess you need to use 8859-1. Otherwise, use UTF-8. Windows has supported UTF-8 for a long time. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
[blfs-support] Setting Up "unix charset" in Samba Configuration File
I'm a bit fuzzy on what you're supposed to use for the "unix charset" parameter in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. This is for installing Samba-4.1.2. The BLFS book's instructions on setting up the Samba configuration file smb.conf says to adjust that parameter appropriately for your installation, and that this parameter "must be the same as the output of locale charmap when executed with the LANG variable set to your preferred locale." In the LFS book, section "7.13. The Bash Shell Startup Files", you figure out the charmap for your locale and language. Accordingly, this is my setup: echo $LANG -> en_US.UTF-8 locale charmap -> UTF-8 However: LC_ALL=en_US locale charmap -> ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL=en_US.iso88591 locale charmap-> ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 locale charmap-> UTF-8 So far as I understand, US English installations work with either of the above charmap settings. Can someone explain the difference? And what I should set in the Samba smb.conf file for "unix charset"? Alan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: samba configuration
Hi Thanks for reading my questions. Gena On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:08:58PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote these words on 06/13/06 14:47 CST: > > > I wondered if anyone could help with a couple of questions I have in > > regards to setting up samba? > > Sorry I can't be of more help, but I've found that searching the following > 4 sources of information (all included in the Samba source tarball) has > always provided the answers to any question I've ever had about Samba. > > Using Samba, 2nd Edition; a popular book published by O'Reilly > file:///usr/share/samba/swat/using_samba/toc.html > > The Official Samba HOWTO and Reference Guide > file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/index.html > > Samba-3 by Example > file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/Samba-Guide/index.html > > The Samba-3 man Pages > file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/samba.7.html > > -- > Randy > > rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.27] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] > [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] > 15:06:00 up 32 days, 7:06, 1 user, load average: 0.66, 0.20, 0.07 > -- > http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page ---end quoted text--- -- Wow! Linux From Scratch -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: samba configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote these words on 06/13/06 14:47 CST: > I wondered if anyone could help with a couple of questions I have in regards > to setting up samba? Sorry I can't be of more help, but I've found that searching the following 4 sources of information (all included in the Samba source tarball) has always provided the answers to any question I've ever had about Samba. Using Samba, 2nd Edition; a popular book published by O'Reilly file:///usr/share/samba/swat/using_samba/toc.html The Official Samba HOWTO and Reference Guide file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/index.html Samba-3 by Example file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/Samba-Guide/index.html The Samba-3 man Pages file:///usr/share/samba/swat/help/samba.7.html -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.27] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 15:06:00 up 32 days, 7:06, 1 user, load average: 0.66, 0.20, 0.07 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
samba configuration
Hi All I wondered if anyone could help with a couple of questions I have in regards to setting up samba? The first isn't about samba but a group called "wheel" this vaguely seems familiar in a slackware install? I found this reference to it in the samba mini HOWTO. admin users = @wheel ; domain administrators domain admin group = @wheel domain admin users = root Do I generate this group for my lfs box? Presumingly, I could use any group name I wished but what is the wheel group for and what would be a good choice? My second question is about the useradd command. How do you set disabled-login and disabled-password? For previous distributions I've used the guide: http://dcfonline.sfu.ca/ying/linux/samba/part6.html While this is a vulnerable configuration, it has served me well for a number of years, allowing me at home move files from the MS platform to the Linux platform within my home. In preparation I've looked at the useradd man page as well as others attempting to see how to set nologin and no password switches but I can't see it for looking. I've probably opened a can of worms here but I'd like to develope my understanding on what would be a suitable samba configuration and why? Gena -- Wow! Linux From Scratch -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
