Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread Frank Ventura
If you want to run System Access To Go (http://satogo.com) try turning
off any screen readers that you have running and then access that site.
Frank Ventura, MCP

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Mccurley
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON

What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't

access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome
message 
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing
message.

beareau...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON


 Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I

 signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the
screen 
 reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can use it
on 
 any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your account
number 
 (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
 Rosemarie
 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON


I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down
at a
 computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes or
even a
 thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen
reader
 and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can some of these
other
 screen readers do that?
 I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think
it's
 amazing.  Good to hear from you Rosemary.

 John
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


 Hi, John.  I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons 
 website
 and it's wonderful.  I don't get that weird technical error message
when
 I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through.  I like that
you
 can use it on any computer.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message - 
 From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


 No Deb.  You don't download that program unless you are a paying
 customer.
 You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and
PIN,
 then
 going to the site, http://www.satogo.com
 and signing in again.  Now, once SA is running, you can move to any

 site
 you
 want and it will keep on going.  That's how it works.  The idea was
to
 create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone
on 
 any
 computer with a sound board.  The great part is that you can change
the
 voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them.  If you have an
 account,
 you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are.  I used
it
 once
 at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed.  I could
 navigate
 her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had
changed
 things like the screen magnification and things like that.
 What an incredibel tool!

 John Justice
 - Original Message - 
 From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
 COMPARISON


 Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access.

 Debbie

 -Original Message-
 From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN
 JUSTICE
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON

 I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com   as a test and ran
both
 screen
 readers.
 I tried to use NVDA  first.  On that web site you will need to
choose
 Full
 Channel Line Up  to experience the same situation.

 With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately.  As I 
 mentioned
 in
 an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact
that
 there
 are Flash  links all over this page.  Jaws and NVDA  both got
jammed 
 up
 by
 these links and quit entirely.  There was literally no way to get
them
 back
 and I tried everything.

 Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know,
it
 worked!
 For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA  read the links but
did 
 not
 get
 hung up.
 On our list is a member called Debbie. 

[Blind-Computing] I know why I can accessXm site

2009-01-26 Thread carlene knight

Hi:

When my husband reinstalled XP a couple weeks ago we failed to make sure 
I had Adobe flash player.  That's why those stupid flash messages 
weren't opening for me and I could actually navigate the site.  I can't 
play most videos on Youtube or just about anywhere for that matter.  I 
do wish I had 2 computers.  At any rate, if anybody wants content off of 
the site such as the channel lineup emailed to them privately I would be 
more than happy to do that for you.  Just let me know.  You would think 
it wouldn't be that hard to have a link to a flash free site as Sirius 
did years ago.  You could have it either way.  take care.



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[Blind-Computing] Email Problem

2009-01-26 Thread Donnie Parrett
My ISP is our local telephone company.  I am finding that from time to time 
there are 3 or 4 of the
national ISP's that will block PRTC (my local provider).  For some reason they 
recognize it as SPAM.
This causes a problem for the people who are with the ISP's who are doing this. 
 I send out a couple
of daily emails, and when this occurs, they are not able to receive them.  
Someone told me that
there might be some type of program that I could run in order to prevent this 
from happening.  If
anyone knows what I am talking about, please let me know.  Any advice on this 
subject will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, David.  I tried the procedure and got a message that said system access 
was unable to start.  I even contacted Serotek by email but how do you set 
internet explorer to the default settings?  I'm running windows XP home 
eddition with service pack 2 and internet explorer 6.


Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.  Will await your reply.
Rosemarie
- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON



The procedure from what I remember is  as follows.

Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box.
The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System 
Access.

The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r.
This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of
system Access on your PC.
You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work
as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access
also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory.
If you register System Access will email you a  free login and pin.

One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your
firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message 
from

AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted.


Regards

David Griffith

My Low Vision Resources Web Site  is
http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/
-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07
To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

Here is how I dgot System Access site to work.  I closed all programs.
Opened my web browser and entered the site name.  Then with JAWS still
running I entered on begin.  I did not shut JAWS off until I had System
Access installed.  Hope this helps!

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't
access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome 
message
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing 
message.


beareau...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message -
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON



Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I
signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen
reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can use it on
any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your account number
(phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
Rosemarie
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON



I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down at 
a
computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes or even 
a
thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen 
reader
and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can some of these 
other

screen readers do that?
I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's
amazing.  Good to hear from you Rosemary.

John
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



Hi, John.  I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons
website
and it's wonderful.  I don't get that weird technical error message 
when

I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through.  I like that you
can use it on any computer.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



No Deb.  You don't download that program unless you are a paying
customer.
You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and 
PIN,

then
going to the site, http://www.satogo.com
and signing in again.  Now, once SA is running, you can move to any
site
you
want and it will keep on going.  That's how it works.  

Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Deb.  System access to go wouldn't start for me either.  I wanted to go 
on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in.  I contacted 
Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default 
settings.  I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system 
access wouldn't be able to start.

Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com
To: 'Dan Mccurley' bearea...@bellsouth.net; 
blind-computing@jaws-users.com

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON



Here is how I dgot System Access site to work.  I closed all programs.
Opened my web browser and entered the site name.  Then with JAWS still
running I entered on begin.  I did not shut JAWS off until I had System
Access installed.  Hope this helps!

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't
access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome 
message
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing 
message.


beareau...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message -
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON



Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I
signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen
reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can use it on
any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your account number
(phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
Rosemarie
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON



I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down at 
a
computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes or even 
a
thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen 
reader
and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can some of these 
other

screen readers do that?
I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's
amazing.  Good to hear from you Rosemary.

John
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



Hi, John.  I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons
website
and it's wonderful.  I don't get that weird technical error message 
when

I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through.  I like that you
can use it on any computer.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



No Deb.  You don't download that program unless you are a paying
customer.
You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and 
PIN,

then
going to the site, http://www.satogo.com
and signing in again.  Now, once SA is running, you can move to any
site
you
want and it will keep on going.  That's how it works.  The idea was to
create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on
any
computer with a sound board.  The great part is that you can change 
the

voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them.  If you have an
account,
you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are.  I used it
once
at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed.  I could
navigate
her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed
things like the screen magnification and things like that.
What an incredibel tool!

John Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN
JUSTICE
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM
To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST
Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON


I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com   as a test and ran both
screen
readers.
I tried to use NVDA  first.  On that 

Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question

2009-01-26 Thread Parham Doustdar
Ds-75, the latest Olympus DS model is also accessible. It's like 199 pounds 
(300 dollars).

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From: Lino Morales lino0...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question



Well when someone gives me a bail out plan, I'll purchase one LOL. I'd
really like to have one someday to record stuff. Your bro in Christ,
Lino Morales and Louie Lab
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lino.mora...@lljfm.net
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- Original Message - 
From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


Hi All,

Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders.  Take
care.

Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


Hi
I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250.

God bless,
Mark
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


What is the cost?  Where Can I get these models?  Thanks
Michael
- Original Message - 
From: Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question



I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital
recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features.  You can
connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between 
the

computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS
works well with this.  I've not tried to use the software that comes with
these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it.

Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just
recording
multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not 
JAWS

compatible.

.  These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm
not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael 
Amaro

Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question

Hello listers,
I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder?  For
example one that I can connect to my computer via USB.  Also easy to use.
Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream.
Thanks
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Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question

2009-01-26 Thread Lisa

Hello all,
What is the difference between the Olympus digital recorder, and the Victer 
reader stream?  Just curious.

Take care,
Lisa
- Original Message - 
From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


Hi All,

Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders.  Take
care.

Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


Hi
I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250.

God bless,
Mark
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question


What is the cost?  Where Can I get these models?  Thanks
Michael
- Original Message - 
From: Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question



I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital
recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features.  You can
connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between the
computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS
works well with this.  I've not tried to use the software that comes with
these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it.

Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just
recording
multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not JAWS
compatible.

.  These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm
not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question

Hello listers,
I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder?  For
example one that I can connect to my computer via USB.  Also easy to use.
Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream.
Thanks
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Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question

2009-01-26 Thread Bruce Toews
The difference is that each has a different focus. The Olympus, from all
that I've heard, is meant to be a middle-of-the-road recorder that can
do stereo and so on. It has some playback capabilities, but nothing
special, and was not specifically designed for the blind. The stream is
a bottom-end recorder, sicne its role as a recording device is tertiary
in importance. Its primary purpose is that of a book reader, its
secondary purpose that of a music player. It is also fully accessible,
being designed from the bottom up to be for the blind.

Bruce


On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:40 -0500, Lisa whitedove...@sbcglobal.net
said:
 Hello all,
 What is the difference between the Olympus digital recorder, and the
 Victer 
 reader stream?  Just curious.
 Take care,
 Lisa
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Amazon has about the best prices for new Olympus Digital Recorders.  Take
 care.
 
 Mike
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
 
 
 Hi
  I checked them out on E-Bay and they ran from $55 to $250.
 
 God bless,
 Mark
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Amaro mikeam...@earthlink.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
 
 
 What is the cost?  Where Can I get these models?  Thanks
 Michael
 - Original Message - 
 From: Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
 
 
  I've been really happy with the Olympus DS-30, DS-40, and DS-50 digital
  recorders, as these have voice output for some of the features.  You can
  connect them to the computer and transfer files back and forth between the
  computer and digital recorder via MyComputer or Window Explorer, so JAWS
  works well with this.  I've not tried to use the software that comes with
  these devices, so I do not know if JAWS works with it.
 
  Some of the lower end Olympus digital recorders are great for just
  recording
  multiple notes, but they do not interface with the computer, thus not JAWS
  compatible.
 
  .  These are in no way in the same category as the Victor Stream, so I'm
  not sure if I have provided you with the info you are wanting.
 
  Annette
 
 
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  [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:20 PM
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [Blind-Computing] digital recorder question
 
  Hello listers,
  I would like to know witch is the most accessible digital recorder?  For
  example one that I can connect to my computer via USB.  Also easy to use.
  Jaws compatible and cost affordible. I know about the victor stream.
  Thanks
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Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread Chris Hallsworth

Seems to be ok here, but is very slow at downloading.

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- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON


Hi, Deb.  System access to go wouldn't start for me either.  I wanted to 
go on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in.  I contacted 
Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default 
settings.  I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system 
access wouldn't be able to start.

Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com
To: 'Dan Mccurley' bearea...@bellsouth.net; 
blind-computing@jaws-users.com

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON



Here is how I dgot System Access site to work.  I closed all programs.
Opened my web browser and entered the site name.  Then with JAWS still
running I entered on begin.  I did not shut JAWS off until I had System
Access installed.  Hope this helps!

Debbie

-Original Message-
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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON


What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't
access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome 
message
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing 
message.


beareau...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message -
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON




Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I
signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen
reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can use it on
any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your account number
(phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
Rosemarie
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
COMPARISON



I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down at 
a
computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes or even 
a
thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen 
reader
and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can some of these 
other

screen readers do that?
I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's
amazing.  Good to hear from you Rosemary.

John
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



Hi, John.  I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons
website
and it's wonderful.  I don't get that weird technical error message 
when
I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through.  I like that 
you

can use it on any computer.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



No Deb.  You don't download that program unless you are a paying
customer.
You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and 
PIN,

then
going to the site, http://www.satogo.com
and signing in again.  Now, once SA is running, you can move to any
site
you
want and it will keep on going.  That's how it works.  The idea was 
to

create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on
any
computer with a sound board.  The great part is that you can change 
the

voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them.  If you have an
account,
you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are.  I used it
once
at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed.  I could
navigate
her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had 
changed

things like the screen magnification and things like that.
What an incredibel tool!

John Justice
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO,
COMPARISON



Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access.


Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark
Hi
 Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open.
 I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my computer 
decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the recycle bin. 
So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to start the day? 
Smile.

God bless,
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


did you leave a window open by any chance?
I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist.

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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


Hi
 This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my 
windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where 
did they go? Also, how do I get them back?
 Thank you for your help.

God bless,
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?

2009-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria

Ah yes--what a fun way to start the day.
Rosemarie

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From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


Hi
Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open.
I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my 
computer decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the 
recycle bin. So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to 
start the day? Smile.


God bless,
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- Original Message - 
From: Patricia Dunbar patricia-dun...@sbcglobal.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


did you leave a window open by any chance?
I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist.

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From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


Hi
This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my
windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where
did they go? Also, how do I get them back?
Thank you for your help.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?

2009-01-26 Thread Patricia Dunbar

you mean it did it without you assisting it?
Were you doing some sort of pc maintenance at the time?
That's scarey...
Don't you use Norton? Maybe it did it during a scan?

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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


Hi
Actually, that was pretty funny about leaving the window open.
I am not sure how it happened but at about 2:30 this morning my 
computer decided to delete the windows mail folders and send them to the 
recycle bin. So, I had to restore them from there. Isn't that a fun way to 
start the day? Smile.


God bless,
Mark
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From: Patricia Dunbar patricia-dun...@sbcglobal.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


did you leave a window open by any chance?
I'll probably get kicked off for this reply but I couldn't resist.

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From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where did my windows mail folders go?


Hi
This morning when I went to do my E-Mail I found that a number of my
windows mail folders are gone. I am pretty much back to the basics. Where
did they go? Also, how do I get them back?
Thank you for your help.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA, amazing!,

2009-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, John.  I used to have NVDA before my computer crashed in October.  It 
did pretty good on some web sites.  I heard the snapshot version of NVDA is 
really good.  Is that the one you're using?  Just wondering.

Rosemarie

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Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:43 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA, amazing!,


Hi group.  Some of our International members have recommended NVDA as a 
possible alternative to Jaws when viewing certain web sites.  It's built 
with Open Source code and is much more flexible in some cases.  It can't 
touch Jaws for normal use but I'm already impressed by what it can do.
I'm going to go to one of the most impossible sites I know which is 
www.xmradio.com and see what it does.
If anyone has any suggestions about using this free screen reader, I'd 
appreciate some help either on or off of the list.
Thanks to those who recommended it as a possible alternative when Jaws 
gets picky. LOL!


John and Linda Justice
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[Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread Mark
Hi
 At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I 
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can find 
more information on this?
 Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread Deb Caldbeck
David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you
can allow it through the Fire Wall.  Hope this helps someone.

Debbie 

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

The procedure from what I remember is  as follows.

Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box.
The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access.
The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r.
This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of
system Access on your PC.
You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work
as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access
also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory.
If you register System Access will email you a  free login and pin.

One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your
firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from
AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted.


Regards

David Griffith

My Low Vision Resources Web Site  is
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To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

Here is how I dgot System Access site to work.  I closed all programs.
Opened my web browser and entered the site name.  Then with JAWS still
running I entered on begin.  I did not shut JAWS off until I had System
Access installed.  Hope this helps!

Debbie 

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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't
access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message.

beareau...@bellsouth.net
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON


 Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I 
 signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the 
 screen reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can 
 use it on any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your 
 account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
 Rosemarie
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 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down 
at a  computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes 
or even a  thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a 
screen reader  and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can 
some of these other  screen readers do that?
 I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think 
it's  amazing.  Good to hear from you Rosemary.

 John
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 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


 Hi, John.  I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons 
 website and it's wonderful.  I don't get that weird technical error 
 message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through.  
 I like that you can use it on any computer.
 Rosemarie

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 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


 No Deb.  You don't download that program unless you are a paying 
 customer.
 You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and 
 PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in 
 again.  Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want 
 and it will keep on going.  That's how it works.  The idea was to 
 create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone 
 on any computer with a sound board.  The great part 

Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread Lino Morales
Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a 
solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in Christ,
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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
 At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I 
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can 
find more information on this?
 Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread Mark
Hi Lino,
 Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is replaced 
with a lesser one.

God bless,
Mark
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15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a 
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
 At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I 
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can 
find more information on this?
 Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO

From what I was told they don't make the Road Runner any more.

I had the Road Runner too.
Now I have the Sola bible.
The Sola bible can be bought from blind mice.
I think it is a bit better there is a speaker in it.

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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I 
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can 
find more information on this?

Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO

I have it, you are incorrect it is very nice to use.
I don't have any problems with it.

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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible



Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a
solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in 
Christ,

Lino Morales and Louie Lab
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can
find more information on this?
Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO
Does any one of you guys have the Sola bible if not then how can you give a 
comment on it?

I have one  it works good.
What do you think is wrong with it?

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- Original Message - 
From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi Lino,
Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is 
replaced with a lesser one.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon N/A, 
15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph
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From: Lino Morales lino0...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
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Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They have a
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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a Bible. I
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I can
find more information on this?
Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

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[Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail

2009-01-26 Thread Lino Morales
Howdy all,
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Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

2009-01-26 Thread David Griffith
Interesting 
I also have the paid version of AVG 8 but System Access does not appear to
be able to read the buttons on the Firewall alert message.   Jaws has no
problem reading these messages.  However, given that system Access appears
to be able to read some web pages that Jaws cannot cope with the answer
appears to be have  a range of screen reader tools available  to cope with
whatever problem gets thrown at you.

Ironically Jaws has just crashed on my system as I am typing this. I would
normally switch to NVDA to finish what I am doing and restart my PC.
However there is a problem with NVDA using Microsoft Outlook .  Rather than
losing the email I remembered that my old copy of ZoomText had a screen
reader so I am using this to finish off my email!  I have ended up using 3
screen readers in less than an hour.


Regards

David Griffith

My Low Vision Resources Web Site  is 
http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ 
-Original Message-
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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 21:10
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you
can allow it through the Fire Wall.  Hope this helps someone.

Debbie 

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

The procedure from what I remember is  as follows.

Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box.
The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access.
The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r.
This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of
system Access on your PC.
You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work
as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access
also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory.
If you register System Access will email you a  free login and pin.

One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your
firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from
AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted.


Regards

David Griffith

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http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/
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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07
To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

Here is how I dgot System Access site to work.  I closed all programs.
Opened my web browser and entered the site name.  Then with JAWS still
running I entered on begin.  I did not shut JAWS off until I had System
Access installed.  Hope this helps!

Debbie 

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON

What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't
access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message
and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message.

beareau...@bellsouth.net
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON


 Hi, John.  It really is incredible what system access to go can do.  I 
 signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the 
 screen reader and it's wonderful.  It really is amazing that you can 
 use it on any computer.  All you have to do is log in type in your 
 account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go.
 Rosemarie
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 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, 
 COMPARISON


I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is?  You sit down 
at a  computer where you've never been before.  With a few keystrokes 
or even a  thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a 
screen reader  and navigate quite a bit.  Sure, it's limited but can 
some of these other  screen readers do that?
 I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think 
it's  amazing.  Good to hear from you 

Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread JOHN O CARVALHO
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[Blind-Computing] Accessible Adobe Reader 9 download

2009-01-26 Thread Margaret Thomas
Hi All,

I have Adobe Reader 8 on my XP Home with SP3 machine and have decided that 
the time has come to upgrade to version 9.  Is the link for Accessible 
Adobe Reader 9 download at

http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/reader/

the accessible one without the other utilities/programs included?  I saw an 
old post indicating that it was on the jaws-users site, but I didn't see it 
there or on the home page here.

I checked for updates with Adobe Reader and 8.1 was listed and I figured 
that it would be easier to just uninstall 8 and install 9.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail

2009-01-26 Thread Kliph A M
Only version 8.5, 9.1 isn't accessible yet.

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Subject: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail

Howdy all,
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[Blind-Computing] Ie 8 RC

2009-01-26 Thread Lino Morales
Well folks IE 8 Release candidate came out today. I've been using IE 8 Beta 
2 for about 2 weeks now. So if you want it to take for a shpin, go to the IE 
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[Blind-Computing] Confused about XM problem, would like to help

2009-01-26 Thread carlene knight
   Hi.  Regarding the XM site problem, I am confused.  It works better 
than ever  for me.  There are some links that say get flash, and I think 
that maybe these arre inadbertently being clicked on.  I am having no 
problems whatsoever.  I don'




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[Blind-Computing] setting internet explorer to default settings

2009-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone.  I wanted to set internet explorer to the default settings but 
don't quite know how to do it.  I'm using internet explorer 6.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

2009-01-26 Thread Brandon Misch
actually, there's a bible like that, go to www.lbea.org and enter on  
the bible courior link to learn more. hth.


On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Mark wrote:


Hi Lino,
Thank you for the information. It is sad when a good product is  
replaced with a lesser one.


God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton,  
Oregon N/A, 15.1°F Wind:SSE-160° at 3mph

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Sadly Mark the Road Runner Talking Bible isn't made anymore. They  
have a
solar powered one now and I hear it isn't the greatest. Your bro in  
Christ,

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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible


Hi
At one point I seem to recall a device like a PDA that was a  
Bible. I
believe it is called the road runner Bible. Does anyone know where I  
can

find more information on this?
Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Oregon

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Road runner Bible

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