Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand other files to A USB Flash Drive?
well we live and learn, as you know if you have kept opening my responses I have just found out about this possibility I will let you know if I find out about any other items that effect it inthaneelf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rosario Perez Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:07 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand other files to A USB Flash Drive? Yes, I am talking about the library player. Do you know why I was able to play them when I used Windows XP? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthaneelf Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:56 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other files to A USB Flash Drive? ok, I think I have an answer for you, by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how old is it. if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else. inthaneelf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders o
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other files to A USB Flash Drive?
Yes, I am talking about the library player. Do you know why I was able to play them when I used Windows XP? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthaneelf Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:56 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other files to A USB Flash Drive? ok, I think I have an answer for you, by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how old is it. if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else. inthaneelf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably g
[Blind-Computing] !RE: How do Isaveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?
interesting I have both an advanced player and the other one (I guess you would call it a basic player) here, I will try this on both of my units without the folders myself a basic player probably would have a problem with the files being in a folder, or I would think so. actually, I'll put one in a folder and one out that should tell the tale inthane, -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 5:24 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive? After placing a folder of wave files and a folder of MP3 files on a standard flash drive and first removing the NLS cartridge from the player I had no problems at all listening to both types of music. In conclusion it works fine here. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive? I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay tuned for further developments. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, do
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?
if you get nothing I can try it as he laid it out, with windows 7 myself (just in case, sometimes things do for me what they will not for others) and with an XP machine (still got two of these around) elf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 5:03 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive? I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay tuned for further developments. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you cre
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveand copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
hmmm, odd, I was told the exact opposite, but I never checked so I could be wrong. interesting I stand corrected, elf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Romero Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:16 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveand copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I don't have a digital Library player but a friend of mine who does have one, tells me that those players can only play mp3 music files and only if they are on a memory stick or a library of congress digital cartridge. Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other files to A USB Flash Drive?
ok, I think I have an answer for you, by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how old is it. if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else. inthaneelf -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of Libraries by looking up information on the Internet. If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create folders just as you did in XP. The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP. You can open the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer. You can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop. You can have My Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on the Desktop by customizing it. The proced
Re: [Blind-Computing] Disc Clean Up
the only way that I can clean it is to have the browser do the cleaning.
-Original Message-
From: Shadow Systems
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Disc Clean Up
Lenny,
If you tell your Browser to purge the Temporary Internet Files, then run
Disc Clean Up ("DCU"), does it report the files as still present?
If, after running DCU, then closing DCU & re-running it, it still shows the
files as there, then you might have a problem.
Generally, if your Browser is set to retain the Temp Files (your History),
then the DCU can purge them, but the next time you launch your Browser, the
files are put back.
(Because you've told your Browser to remember what you've been doing.)
If you have your Browser purge the files, then run DCU, and the files
*still* persist, then you might want to run a program like "C Cleaner", aka
"PC DeCrapifier", aka "Cleaner" to remove all the cruft building up on your
hard drive.
It's available from the Jaws User's Page:
http://jaws-users.com/
:in the usefull programs section.
Grab a copy, give it a run, and see if the files still insist on sticking
around.
Hope This Helps.
-ShadowSystems
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Disc Clean Up
Lenny,
If you tell your Browser to purge the Temporary Internet Files, then run
Disc Clean Up ("DCU"), does it report the files as still present?
If, after running DCU, then closing DCU & re-running it, it still shows the
files as there, then you might have a problem.
Generally, if your Browser is set to retain the Temp Files (your History),
then the DCU can purge them, but the next time you launch your Browser, the
files are put back.
(Because you've told your Browser to remember what you've been doing.)
If you have your Browser purge the files, then run DCU, and the files
*still* persist, then you might want to run a program like "C Cleaner", aka
"PC DeCrapifier", aka "Cleaner" to remove all the cruft building up on your
hard drive.
It's available from the Jaws User's Page:
http://jaws-users.com/
:in the usefull programs section.
Grab a copy, give it a run, and see if the files still insist on sticking
around.
Hope This Helps.
-ShadowSystems
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?
Good to know; thanks again. Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?
After placing a folder of wave files and a folder of MP3 files on a standard flash drive and first removing the NLS cartridge from the player I had no problems at all listening to both types of music. In conclusion it works fine here. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive? I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay tuned for further developments. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?
Very interesting; thanks David. Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay tuned for further developments. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's W
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay tuned for further developments. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of Libraries by looking up information on the Internet. If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create folders just as you did in XP. The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP. You can open the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer. You can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop. You can have My Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on the Desktop by customizi
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveand copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Rosario, I don't have a digital Library player but a friend of mine who does have one, tells me that those players can only play mp3 music files and only if they are on a memory stick or a library of congress digital cartridge. Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Mike, that's okay. Blessings, Rosario Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of Libraries by looking up information on the Internet. If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create folders just as you did in XP. The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP. You can open the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer. You can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop. You can have My Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on the Desktop by customizing it. The procedure is similar to that used in Windows XP. You can learn how by reading my very short Windows 7 tutorial from: http://dl.
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Pete, I don't know the files' extention. Where can I find them? I am using the library digital player. When I was using XP windows, I was able to play them on my flash drive. Now that I am using windows 7, I cannot. Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Romero Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:43 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, I'm just now seeing this thread so forgive if this has already been asked but, what is the file extension of these music files and are you sure your digital player is capable of playing these files? Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Rosario, I'm just now seeing this thread so forgive if this has already been asked but, what is the file extension of these music files and are you sure your digital player is capable of playing these files? Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Rosario, I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you. Hopefully someone that uses a digital player will be able to answer this question. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of Libraries by looking up information on the Internet. If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create folders just as you did in XP. The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP. You can open the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer. You can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop. You can have My Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on the Desktop by customizing it. The procedure is similar to that used in Windows XP. You can learn how by reading my very short Windows 7 tutorial from: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/windows7%20messages.zip Gene Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, Thank you very much. I will give it a try. Now, abusing of your help; how do I creat a folder in Windows 7? I am still learning how to use it so, I don't know if it is the same
Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?
Hi Mike, I created a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong? Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Rosario, Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7 & 2 answers that will give more detailed information for your question: From: dave Bond I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but couldn't seem to do it the same way. I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new folders. I thought I needed to open "Libraries," and create them there. Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else, but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally, I'd like to have an "Audio" folder under the "Libraries" folder. Any clarification much appreciated. Dave From: Steve Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp. You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E. Hit alt-f for file, w for the new submenu, and arrow to folder. The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files of a given type. Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has its own default location. However, the library actually just points to the location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc. and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter where they are. If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default location. But, you don't need to store your mp3's there. You can store them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think it is called. Steve From: Gene You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP. If you create a folder in a library, it will be created in a default location. You are still creating folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library. You can change the location where folders are made. A library allows you to see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your computer. You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or remove folders. If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of Libraries by looking up information on the Internet. If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create folders just as you did in XP. The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP. You can open the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer. You can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop. You can have My Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on the Desktop by customizing it. The procedure is similar to that used in Windows XP. You can learn how by reading my very short Windows 7 tutorial from: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/windows7%20messages.zip Gene Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rosario Perez To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive? Hi Mike, Thank you very much. I will give it a try. Now, abusing of your help; how do I creat a folder in Windows 7? I am still learning how to use it so, I don't know if it is the same than Windows XP. Thanks much again. Cordially, Rosario Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything. -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:00 AM To: blind-computing@
