Re: [Blind-Computing] Mack OS
I'm glad to have opened this message before replying to your first post. Let's not forget that there is no less than 3 moderators on these lists. Everybody seems to keep forgetting Mr. Bob up north because he stays mostly in the background. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: "Lino and Louie" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Mack OS Sorry Dave and Rick. I thought I typed in a subject in said field. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Lino and Louie" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] (no subject) Hey Don, Buy me a Mack to for Christmas please? LOL. SSeriously Voice Over sounds very nice! Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Matthew_2010" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver >I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control >panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not >running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed >this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 >megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs >an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS they >will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs >folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of >files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just leave >that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some strange >file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all >over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I don't >know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens when I >actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the sounds out >of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached many USB >devices including external hard drives and USB drives and can't recall >hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have learned to ignore >then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its for these frustrations I >don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to wreck >my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell the >product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort that >they are taking from me, it can also be my own computer's reliable >functionality. I say no thanks to that and I call FS tech support at any >slight hint of a bug demanding they fix the problems with the now possibly >$2000 I have invested in their screen reader. > > Matthew > > - Original Message - &g
[Blind-Computing] Mack OS
Sorry Dave and Rick. I thought I typed in a subject in said field. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Lino and Louie" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] (no subject) Hey Don, Buy me a Mack to for Christmas please? LOL. SSeriously Voice Over sounds very nice! Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver Hi Mathew, I usually get risky and try their betas. If it was not for the scripting capability I would probably switch to another screen reader. Unfortunately, FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions that do not work as documented! I am seriously considering buying a Mac. Apple seems serious now about accessibility! I like what I hear about the improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard. Voice Over also has Apple Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen reader. Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either. I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away. I had never noticed it in the Programs list before. What version of Sentinel is installed on your computer? Perhaps FS just updated this software during the JAWS 11 beta installation. The version I removed was 7.5.0. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Matthew_2010" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver >I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control >panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not >running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed >this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5 >megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs >an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS they >will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs >folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of >files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just leave >that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some strange >file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all >over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I don't >know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens when I >actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the sounds out >of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached many USB >devices including external hard drives and USB drives and can't recall >hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have learned to ignore >then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its for these frustrations I >don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to wreck >my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell the >product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort that >they are taking from me, it can also be my own computer's reliable >functionality. I say no thanks to that and I call FS tech support at any >slight hint of a bug demanding they fix the problems with the now possibly >$2000 I have invested in their screen reader. > > Matthew > > - Original Message - > From: "Donald Marang" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver > > >> Thanks Mathew for performing that simple lookup. I could not directly >> respond to your email because Windows Mail thought your message was >> fishing! >> >> I did notice that this software was installed as part of JAWS 11 beta! >> Not sure why JAWS needs this type of USB security! Have they >> incorporated the dongle version into JAWS 11? I noticed this was now >> part of JAWS 11 because it failed during installation. I discovered that >> the only way it would install without error was to turn off Trend Micro >> Security (antivi
