Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Hi John, Thanks for that information about Spyware Blaster. It's comforting to know that I can still use it with MSE. Again, thanks and take care. Lennie At 04:35 PM 12/30/2010, you wrote: Spyware Blaster does not run in the background. All it does is establish a list of prohibited websites in your browser. This prevents your browser from accessing these sites, thus protecting your computer from their malicious content. The only time Spyware Blaster is running, is when you run it to update the list of nasty sites. John - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection Hi Jackie, Thanks for the explanation. That was great! However, I still have one question. Would you consider Spyware Blaster to be running real time? I do believe that it is always running in the background and there is no way to do a scan of any type. It is supposed to monitor spywares while you are on the Internet. What do you think? Thanks in advance for any enlightenments. Take care. Lennie At 12:19 AM 12/28/2010, you wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, & then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware & viruses were pretty much distinct entities, & the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus & 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer & allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses & spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes & browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can & does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, & it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies & other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots & lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, & let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win & your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, & this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, & passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, & invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike & Barbara In Arcadia wrote: > Hi Jackie; > > I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There > was a > discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super > Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional > opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? > Meaning, would you run 1 i
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Spyware Blaster does not run in the background. All it does is establish a list of prohibited websites in your browser. This prevents your browser from accessing these sites, thus protecting your computer from their malicious content. The only time Spyware Blaster is running, is when you run it to update the list of nasty sites. John - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection Hi Jackie, Thanks for the explanation. That was great! However, I still have one question. Would you consider Spyware Blaster to be running real time? I do believe that it is always running in the background and there is no way to do a scan of any type. It is supposed to monitor spywares while you are on the Internet. What do you think? Thanks in advance for any enlightenments. Take care. Lennie At 12:19 AM 12/28/2010, you wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, & then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware & viruses were pretty much distinct entities, & the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus & 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer & allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses & spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes & browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can & does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, & it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies & other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots & lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, & let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win & your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, & this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, & passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, & invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike & Barbara In Arcadia wrote: > Hi Jackie; > > I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There > was a > discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super > Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional > opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? > Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in > Real > Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for > emailing > and would like to hear a professional opinion on
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Hi Jackie, Thanks for the explanation. That was great! However, I still have one question. Would you consider Spyware Blaster to be running real time? I do believe that it is always running in the background and there is no way to do a scan of any type. It is supposed to monitor spywares while you are on the Internet. What do you think? Thanks in advance for any enlightenments. Take care. Lennie At 12:19 AM 12/28/2010, you wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, & then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware & viruses were pretty much distinct entities, & the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus & 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer & allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses & spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes & browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can & does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, & it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies & other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots & lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, & let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win & your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, & this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, & passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, & invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike & Barbara In Arcadia wrote: > Hi Jackie; > > I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a > discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super > Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional > opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? > Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real > Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing > and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros & cons might > be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that > contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having > learned most of what I've learned via trial & error, & lists' like this, I > would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a > professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. > Thanks much. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: Jackie McBride > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Not only Matthew You give a wonderful series of explanations that I find very helpful Thanks for your knowledge Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:49 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection Glad u found my explanations helpful, Matthew. On 12/28/10, matthew wrote: Thank you for that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background,& then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware& viruses were pretty much distinct entities,& the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus& 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer& allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses& spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes& browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can& does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously,& it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies& other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots& lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime,& let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win& your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training,& this is pretty much how I answered it then, too,& passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear,& invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike& Barbara In Arcadia wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros& cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial& error,& lists
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Glad u found my explanations helpful, Matthew. On 12/28/10, matthew wrote: > > Thank you for > that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when > others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. > > On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: >> Mike, u wrote: >> Hi Jackie; >> >> I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a >> discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& >> Super >> Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional >> opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the >> 2? >> Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in Real >> Time? >> >> Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of >> background,& then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. >> >> In the not so very distant past, spyware& viruses were pretty much >> distinct entities,& the programs designed to protect the computer >> from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to >> look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in >> files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs >> tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was >> being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was >> that 1 antivirus& 1 antispyware program could generally run together >> in realtime w/o conflict. >> >> Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses >> drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer& allow all >> kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the >> distinction between viruses& spyware--& other types of malware, for >> that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The >> result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become >> antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all >> protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. >> >> The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the >> programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for >> file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry >> changes& browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other >> hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can& >> does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine >> something at the same time, obviously,& it is for this reason that >> malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type >> program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What >> I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in >> realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, >> just to get rid of tracking cookies& other annoying nasties that may >> have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in >> check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots& >> lots of crap-ola gets in there. >> >> So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security >> Essentials in realtime,& let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some >> listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what >> would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 >> might win& your protection may well be compromised. I remember >> getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training,& >> this is pretty much how I answered it then, too,& passed, so >> hopefully it'll suffice. >> >> I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear,& invite further queries >> if I haven't. >> >> Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. >> >> On 12/27/10, Mike& Barbara In Arcadia wrote: >>> Hi Jackie; >>> >>> I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was >>> a >>> discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& >>> Super >>> Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional >>> opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the >>> 2? >>> Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in >>> Real >>> Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for >>> emailing >>> and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros& cons >>> might >>> be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others >>> that >>> contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and >>> having >>> learned most of what I've learned via trial& error,& lists' like this, >>> I >>> would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a >>> professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. >>> Thanks much. Take care. >>> Mike >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: Jackie McBride >>>To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com >>>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM >>>Subject: Re
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Thank you for that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background,& then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware& viruses were pretty much distinct entities,& the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus& 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer& allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses& spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes& browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can& does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously,& it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies& other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots& lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime,& let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win& your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training,& this is pretty much how I answered it then, too,& passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear,& invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike& Barbara In Arcadia wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials& Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time& not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros& cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial& error,& lists' like this, I would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jackie McBride To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, I'd do it that way as well. But u& I both know that most residential & soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive.& it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs o
[Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, & then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware & viruses were pretty much distinct entities, & the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus & 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer & allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses & spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes & browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can & does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, & it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies & other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots & lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, & let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win & your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, & this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, & passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, & invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike & Barbara In Arcadia wrote: > Hi Jackie; > > I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a > discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super > Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional > opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? > Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real > Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing > and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros & cons might > be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that > contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having > learned most of what I've learned via trial & error, & lists' like this, I > would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a > professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. > Thanks much. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: Jackie McBride > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, > I'd do it that way as well. But u & I both know that most residential > & soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or > even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive. & > it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs of all > windows versions, never mind trying to use Magic Jellybean or some > such to retrieve the key, cuz half the folks lost their restore discs. > & then there