Re: [BlindHandyMan] planting grass?

[Max Robinson]

I used to live there.  I remember them saying, there are 3 rules for growing 
a nice lawn in Florida.  Fertilize, fertilize, and fertilize.

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> We want to plant some perennial rye.  Is there any general rules
> about planting or anything we should do to the  ground, first?  Our
> soil is very sandy.  We live in north central Florida.
>
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> John
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[BlindHandyMan] Lawn Care Tips from A Pro

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Everyone
Lawn Care Tips from a Pro

Most all lawn care items fall into one of the following categories: 
Establishment, Mowing or Watering. In this article, we will follow the 
example of a
new lawn being established and cared for over the course of a season and 
list the things that may need to be done. We can't cover every single lawn 
care
item here due to lack of time and space, but this should provide a good 
overview. Let's start with establishing turfgrass.

Establishment

Turfgrass can be established in a variety of ways. The method you choose 
will be determined by the condition of your lawn. Do you have a new 
construction?
An existing lawn that is thin and rough? A fair lawn that is just a little 
thin? The condition of your lawn will determine where to start.

Let's say you have a lawn that is in fair condition but needs thickened up. 
An easy way to do this is to aerate and overseed. An aerator is a machine 
that
will poke a hole in the ground (thousands of them actually), remove a core 
of soil and leave it laying on the surface. These are called core aerators.
Some aerators will simply push a spike into the ground creating a hole, but 
this type is not as good.

Aerators are available as either "spike," aerators that stab the soil, or 
"core" aerators that remove plugs of earth.

To start with, mow your grass as low as you safely can. Don't throw rocks 
and dig dirt with the mower, but get it down to about 1 inch high. This will 
stunt
the grass and slow its growth, allowing the new grass to seed with limited 
competition from the existing grass. After mowing, take an aerator (rent 
one,
buy one or borrow one) and go over the entire lawn at least twice. Depending 
on the model you use, the aerator will poke holes every 2 to 8 inches apart.
I like to be able to look down at the lawn at any point and see no areas 
larger than 6 inches without holes. If you have a spot larger than 6 inches 
without
holes in it, very little grass will come up in that spot, so go over the 
lawn as many times as it takes to be sure you have holes everywhere.

Once you're finished aerating, spread the seed. The amount of seed you use 
is important. If you don't use enough, you won't get the desired results. 
For
my professional lawn care service, we use 350 pounds per acre for lawns. 
Divided out per thousand square feet, that is 8 pounds per thousand square 
feet.


This brings up an important point: Measure the square footage of your lawn 
accurately and write it down. Everything you do in lawn care will depend on 
how
large the lawn is. Spread the seed with a spreader of any type. Do not use 
your hand and just throw it around, because you won't get even coverage. 
Spread
the seed using half of the required amount, spreading it in one direction. 
Use the other half, spreading the opposite direction to create a grid 
pattern
on the lawn. This way, you ensure even coverage.

After spreading the seed, take a drag of any type, like a piece of chain 
link fence, a board with a rope tied to it, or whatever you can drag behind 
your
mower. Drag the lawn; this will push and drag seed into the holes you 
created and break up the little plugs of soil that the aerator left on the 
ground.
It will cover up most of the seed, giving much better germination and a 
thicker lawn.

After dragging, spread a starter fertilizer. This can be done first if you 
want; it really doesn't matter. You will need to put down 8 pounds per 
thousand
square feet of a 6-12-12, or 4 pounds per 1,000 square feet of a 6-24-24. 
This will give the ground the nutrients needed to germinate and start a turf
lawn, thus the name "starter fertilizer."

After about a month the new grass will start to yellow off some, or maybe 
turn pale green, showing that it is time to fertilize again. Apply 6 pounds 
per
1,000 square feet of 15-15-15 to provide the nitrogen for green and growth, 
and phosphate and potash for root growth and overall vigor. After the grass
is about three weeks old you should be able to start mowing. Be sure to cut 
it high (see mowing section to follow). Fertilizing will also need to be 
done
on a regular schedule.

If you have a new home and this is the first lawn, then a few things are 
different. Mainly you will have to clean up and create the proper grade 
before
seeding. Once this is done you will have to till up the ground to make a 
soft seed bed.

After tilling, fertilize and seed just as described above, using the same 
amount of seed. After this you will have to cover the entire lawn with 
straw.
Shake out straw to cover approximately 50 percent of the soil from view. 
Once you're finished, you should be able to look down and still see about 
half
of the soil showing through the straw. This equates to about 100 bales per 
acre.

After you're done strawing, it's time to start watering. For the first 
watering, soak the lawn until runoff, followed by daily waterings of 
sufficient length
to keep the soil wet. If it dries out, th

Re: [BlindHandyMan] planting grass?

[Ray Boyce]

Hi John
Soil Prep For Beautiful Lawns

There is no better time to enhance lawn's ultimate beauty and success than 
by improving the soil before any planting takes place.

Benefits of Proper and Complete Soil Preparation
List of 5 items
. Improved Uniformity
. Increased Density
. Faster recovery from wear
. Reduced Use of water, fertilizer, & chemicals
. Reduced Maintenance

Quick Fact: Why Is Good Soil Important?

For optimum growth, turfgrass needs just four things (in the proper balance) 
to grow...sunlight, air, water and nutrients. Reduce any of these, or 
provide
too much of any one, and the grass may die or simply suffer. In the right 
proportions, the grass will flourish, providing not only beauty to the 
landscape,
but also a clean and safe place to play and many benefits to the 
environment.

Grass obtains three of these four essential factors (air, water and 
nutrients) from the soil, but many soils are less than ideal for growing 
grass. Some
soils contain too much clay and may be very compacted... great for roads, 
bad for grass, because air and water aren't available to the roots and the 
roots
can't grow. Other soils may have too much sand... beautiful on a beach, but 
difficult to grow grass because water and nutrients won't stay in the root
zone long enough for the plant to use. Another frequently observed problem 
with many soils is that its pH (the degree of acidity or alkalinity) is too
high or two low for optimum grass growth.

Quick Fact:What Is The Best Soil For Turfgrass?

Loams, sandy loams and loamy sands, with a pH of 6.0 to 7.0 are the very 
best soils for producing a beautiful, high-use, low-maintenance lawn. 
Unfortunately,
this idea soil mixture is seldom found on any property after construction.

Quick Fact: How Deep Should the Soil Be For Turfgrass?

The absolute minimum quality soil depth for a care-free lawn is 10 cm (4 
inches); however, for deeper root penetration and the benefits that brings, 
the
accepted standard is 15 cm (6 inches).

Quick Fact: Can Soils Be Improved?

Practically without exception, not only can most soils be improved, they 
usually need to be improved to get the maximum results with only a minimum 
of other
on-going effort.

The knowledge of what's necessary, the amount and availability of materials 
and the immediate costs of time and money are the factors that typically 
deter
people from taking the steps necessary to improving the soil. While some 
people do not fully understand the importance of good soils for grass, many 
also
believe they can save time and money by ignoring the need to improve their 
lawn's soil.

The fact is that failing to improve the soil before planting is only 
inviting a much greater and continual investment of both time and money, 
that will
never return its value as fully as preparing the soil properly before 
planting any grass.

Site Preparation Steps

"The beauty is in the blades, but the 'action' is in the roots," is a good 
adage to remember when growing grass. Thus, the value of proper site 
preparation
and soil improvement, before any planting takes place, is that it will be 
easier for the grass roots to penetrate deeply and evenly. Deep roots will 
make
the lawn more drought resistant, a more efficient water and nutrient user 
and more dense as new grass plant shoots emerge. A dense lawn crowds out 
weeds
and better resists insects and disease.

Follow these steps for a beautiful, healthy and trouble-free lawn:
1. Clear the site of all building materials (wood, cement, bricks, etc.), as 
well as any buried stumps, rocks , stones or other debris that is larger 
than
4-5 cm (2-3 inches) in diameter.

2. Rough grade the entire area to eliminate any drainage problems on the 
property. This would include sloping the grade away from building 
foundations,
eliminating or reducing severe slopes and filling low-lying areas. A 
tractor-mounted blade and/or box are most often used for rough grading, but 
if the
area is smaller, it can be done with hand tools. The rough grading will 
probably uncover more debris that should be removed and not buried.

3. Initial tilling, to a depth of at least 5 cm (2 inches), should be 
completed prior to adding any topsoil or soil amendments. This will control 
most annual
weeds, alleviate subsoil compaction and permit a bonding of the topsoil to 
the subsoil and improve root penetration and water movement.

4. Add topsoil to achieve a total topsoil depth of 10-15 cm (4-6 inches), 
after firming. The topsoil should be a loamy sand, sandy loam, clay loam, 
loam,
silt loam, sandy clay loam or other soil suitable for the area. To the 
extent possible, practical, affordable and available, incorporate humus 
(fully decomposed
organic matter) into the topsoil.

5. Test the soil pH with a chemical soil test to determine if any pH 
correction materials are required. Acidic soils (pH of 6 and below) can be 
improved
with the addition of lime. The type (or source) and total amount of applied 
lim

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Tips

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tissue paper and put it in a box with a piece of chalk. You'll never 
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[BlindHandyMan] planting grass?

[John Schwery]

We want to plant some perennial rye.  Is there any general rules 
about planting or anything we should do to the  ground, first?  Our 
soil is very sandy.  We live in north central Florida.


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[BlindHandyMan] Painting Answers

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Boop
LATEX PAINTS OVER OIL-BASED

Question
Can you paint over an oil-based paint with latex paint or is it vice versa?

Answer
The rule of thumb is that, given proper surface preparation, for exterior 
use you can apply quality latex paints over oil-based, but not the reverse. 
However,
if you have many layers of oil based paint, stick to using oil on oil. For 
interior use, generally you can use one over the other. Some manufacturers 
of
latex products will recommend a primer when going over oil-based paint.

Question
Can I paint over oil base exterior paint with a latex paint?

Answer
Yes, you should be able to use a top quality exterior latex paint over oil 
based paint, if the surface is well prepared. (However, if the old paint 
consists
of a buildup of say 5 or more coats of old oil paint, the safest approach is 
to continue with oil, because the latex paint can lift the old oil paint if
not adhering well.) All dirt, mildew and loose paint should be removed. Sand 
any glossy areas to eliminate the gloss and get maximum adhesion from the
new paint. NOTE: do not sand or otherwise remove any old paint if it may 
contain lead. Call the EPA at 1-800-424-LEAD for guidance. Some quality 
exterior
latex paint may be applied directly to clean, sound oil-based paint; but 
check the product directions, as some manufacturers will require a primer, 
either
latex or oil-based.

Question
As a New England church steeple restoration specialist for 30 years, I run 
into dozens of layers of old paint. Most of the steeples were built in the 
early
to mid 1800's and have a combination of lead, oil, latex (the kind that will 
not feather out and lay down) and 100% acrylic. What paint system is best
suited to these conditions? My reputation has been built on expert surface 
preparation. I spend two to three weeks with the sandvik scrapers and power
sanding equipment (no gouges) preparing these old steeples before any paint 
products arrive at the job. All surfaces are wiped down with solvent and 
clean
cloths prior to the application of primer. I have been using a quality oil 
base primer followed by a boiled linseed oil base satin finish. My paint 
restorations
last 10-12 years with this system. I would like to spec a longer lasting 
system if possible. Any suggestions?

Answer
A key factor is whether the old paint has been removed down to bare wood. In 
cases where old paint remains, continue with the oil-based system you have
been using. (Things to keep in mind to maximize job life:

1) spread rate should be kept in the range recommended by the manufacturer; 
spreading primer or paint too thin will compromise stain blocking, mildew 
resistance,
and crack resistance;

2) joints and caulking should be done properly to keep moisture out, or let 
it run out, as appropriate; I suggest using a top quality acrylic latex 
clear
caulk, as recommended by your paint supplier; allow caulking to dry at least 
one day before applying a coating over it.)

In cases where the paint is stripped to bare wood, use a top quality acrylic 
latex system:

1) be sure to apply primer within a few days;

2) use a top quality latex exterior wood primer; your current primer 
supplier can recommend one; be sure to apply an adequately heavy coat of the 
primer;

3) for the finish coat, go with a top of the line exterior acrylic latex 
flat, satin, semigloss or gloss paint; your current finish coat supplier can 
recommend
these;

4) with water-based primers and paints, it is essential that application and 
curing be at appropriate temperatures: application at too low a temperature
can compromise film formation.

This means the paint should not be applied when the air temperature is below 
the stated figure for the product, nor if the temperature is forecasted to
drop below that minimum during the next 36 hours. Also, the surface being 
painted should not be below that temperature. What can happen is that the 
lower
temperature makes the particles of binder get so hard that they won't fuse 
sufficiently into a tough, continuous film. If this happens, while the paint
may look fine, it may crack or peel or otherwise loose adhesion in a 
relatively short time, say a year or two rather than say in 15 years.

In extreme cases, the paint will be cracked and/or easily chipped off after 
it has dried. Color can be affected in that they paint may dry to a lighter
color than it is supposed to. Low temperature application can also lead to 
surfactant leaching, which is described in the problem solver section of our
web site. And application of water-based coatings under conditions that lead 
to too fast a dry can also compromise film formation and thus reduce 
durability.
Thus, avoid priming or painting in direct sunshine and when it is dry and 
breezy or is very hot (over 95 degrees F).
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] what to know about replacing your central unit

[Dale Leavens]

I am not sure about what it is you are smelling but most all forced air 
systems and many hot water heating systems will produce a smell particularly 
when the heat hasn't been on for a couple of days but often also after 
something has been disturbed. Actually a lot of things give off a smell when 
heated particularly if some time has passed since they were last heated. It 
may have something to do with small particles of dust or other aerosols 
being released as the materials are being excited by the increasing 
temperature I don't know. It doesn't take much and even with very good 
filtration only a very few molecules need be present in many cases for the 
nose to detect them. We used to get that even with our electric baseboard 
heaters way back when I had an all electric house.

Imagine, for example, a swimming pool where the chlorine levels might be 6 
parts per million or less in the water, how many in the air around the pool 
and yet the nose can often detect the smell. What is the concentration of 
particles from one fart in church?

If you do have any gas appliances or any flame appliances really, you should 
buy and use a carbon monoxide detector. I have only had mine for a year but 
I am glad to have it.

Good luck.


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> Hi,
>
> My Gas company checked for CO and all was well.
>
> At 12:52 AM 2/16/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>You might have a hole in the heat exchanger. If you do you could wake up
>>dead some morning. Better run to the nearest store and buy a C O detector.
>>And do it tonight.
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>Max. K 4 O D S.
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>>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] what to know about replacing your central unit
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>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > This just might be a question especially for Boyce Ray, but, I
>> > welcome any help from all!
>> >
>> > I have been smelling gas when my heating unit starts up. The gas
>> > seemed to be coming from the air vents. I had my gas company come out
>> > to see if it was the gas meter and they tell me it is the burner
>> > being clogged and needing servicing. I had a local HVAC company come
>> > out and clean the burner but I think I still am smelling gas. Can
>> > this just be an accumulation of gas which has not dissipated or do I
>> > need to get the HVAC folks back out?
>> >
>> > Also, my central unit, natural gas heating and electric air is
>> > getting long in the tooth. It is not energy sufficient and I an
>> > thinking about replacing it. I would like to know what to consider
>> > when replacing this sort of unit and as well as any and all
>> > ramifications and concerns that matter with an undertaking of this
>> > type. I am not considering doing it myself. I just want to know
>> > things to look at and consider; IE, energy savings verses cost of
>> > replacement, tax rebates for this sort of home improvement, heat pump
>> > verses a duel gas heat / electric A C, ETC.
>> >
>> > Any and all help is appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kevin Doucet
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>> > confuse as says
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>> > Blind man with unmarked forehead has large belly!
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[BlindHandyMan] a primer on paint

[tunecollector]

According to the painter in my family, you can go latex on oil based or oil
based on latex, but in either case, you have to use primer.



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[BlindHandyMan] Some painting tips.

[Dale Leavens]

Here is something I found at DoItYourself.com.

Work Smart: Interior Painting

By Don Logay

April officially kicks off Spring and, for homeowners, it signals the start of 
home improvement month. With that in mind, here are some tips, tricks and
insider techniques to save you time, effort and money.

The secret to a good paint job lies in proper planning and preparation.

How Much Paint Do I Need?

For rooms, multiply the total width of all walls (room perimeter) by ceiling 
height to find square footage to be covered. On average, a gallon covers 350
square feet. Divide total square feet by 350 to determine number of gallons 
needed.

For a more accurate total and to avoid buying too much for big multi-room 
projects, deduct 20 square feet for each door and 14 for windows.
List of 2 items
. Tip: Add an extra 10 percent to total for repairs and touch-ups.
. Trim tip: Plan one quart of trim paint for each gallon of wall paint.
list end

Calculation Helper

While estimating seems complex, it's worth the effort - as buying too little or 
too much of anything wastes time, effort and money. Tip : A handy little
tool called ProjectCalc ® makes it easy.

Programmed with formulas for hundreds of home decorating and repair projects, a 
few keystrokes determine materials needed with pin-point accuracy. To estimate
paint, enter room dimensions for square footage, hit convert and paint buttons 
to learn gallons needed - add price per and total project cost is displayed.
Easy as 1-2-3. (MSRP $24.95 at hardware stores and home centers. Calculated 
Industries 1-775-885-4900 or www.calculated.com). Check it out.

What Kind of Paint?

Water-based latex is most common and easiest to use. Oil-based paints require a 
solvent to clean and thin, but provide a far more durable surface.

For most rooms, use flat latex on ceilings and walls. For trim and doors, use 
semi-gloss latex (or oil-based for more durability). For high-moisture areas,
like kitchens and baths or where frequent cleaning is required, use only 
oil-based. Note: all oil-based paint is either semi-gloss or high-gloss.

If re-painting, latex over oil-based will not hold unless you lightly sand and 
use a latex primer first.
List of 1 items
. Tip: If you are unsure which type paint you have, wash wall, let dry and wipe 
with rubbing alcohol on a paper towel. If paint comes off, it's Latex.
list end

Quality or Price?

Premium paint goes on faster, easier, covers better and lasts longer. Higher 
price usually indicates better ingredients that increase durability and extend
life span. Cheap paints use clay and fillers that result in poor coverage and 
less durability.

Cost-wise, a gallon of flat latex ranges from $12 to $15 for a decent medium 
grade to $25 for premium paint. Semi-gloss adds few more dollars per gallon
as does oil-based.
List of 1 items
. Tip: To test, rub some paint between your fingertips. If it feels gritty, 
it's poor quality. Premium feels smooth and silky.
list end

Selecting and Matching Colors

Pure white paint reflects 82 percent of the light it receives. This decreases 
as colors darken. Ivory reflects 78 percent, Yellow 75, peach or pink 70 and
so on - down to charcoal at 5 percent, and black near zero.
List of 2 items
. Tip: Test colors on site before you buy. Tape sample swatches together (to 
make large samples) and leave on wall. Buy test quarts of ones you like and
paint bigger squares at eye level. View often day and night with different 
lighting.
. Tip: If matching an existing color, remove something (like a vent cover) 
rather than taking in a can of leftover paint. Colors change when paints dry
and darken on walls over time - due to pollutants in the air.
list end

Preparation (of All Kinds)

First, do the basics. Remove everything you can, patch holes and make sure 
walls are super-clean. Then think about life while painting.

The phone will ring. So cover the handset with plastic wrap. Put your cell 
phone in a zip lock plastic bag. You'll be able to hear and be heard fine - and
it'll stay clean. You'll get thirsty. Protect the refrigerator door handle. 
Same goes for drawers, door knobs, toilet handles and anything else you think
you'll use or touch while painting.

Pre-thinking, protective wrap and drop cloths beat hours of messy clean-ups 
every time.
List of 1 items
. Personal tip: Rub petroleum jelly or mineral oil on your skin before you 
start and smudges and splatters will wash right off.
list end

Time to Paint

Allow 60-minutes work time per gallon of paint - plus one hour to get underway 
and clean-up.
List of 1 items
. Good news tip: Painting burns about 360 calories an hour.
list end

Plastic grocery and trash bags are a boon to painting. Have plenty on hand.
List of 1 items
. Tip: Put one over the paint roller tray before you start. When through, turn 
inside out and throw away. Your tray will stay just like new.
list end

Working with custom mixed paint? Tip : "Average" to avoid possible variation 
from can-to-

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Dale Leavens]

She wants to put water based over the oil base.

>From what they seem to be saying and doing on This Old House and Hometime 
the issue appears to be largely over stated anyway.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question


> Aloha Boop,
> I think it is the other way round. We were told that we could put
> oil-based over the water-based that we had. That was ten years ago
> and it still looks great.
> Betsy
> At 10:19 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote:
>
>>Hi gang,
>>I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
>>paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
>>the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
>>paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Boop
>>
>>
>
>
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Robert J. Moore]

I don't know if using Kilz would work but it would bee a good question to
ask a paint person.

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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

I believe that there is primer that can be applied!

- Original Message -
From: Boop
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

Hi gang,
I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Boop

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Lenny McHugh]

Yes, Sherwin Williams sells a primer that will work for you. We used it and 
had no problems.
They have it in two formulas one is odorless. I recommend that one the other 
we had and the smell was awful.
Lenny
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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question


Hi gang,
I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
paint.  Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
the oil base paint so I can do this?  We aren't positive the
paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
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[BlindHandyMan] Re: Whiney 2000 Chevy s10

[bellewpatrick]

Hi everyone, 

   Thanks for all your suggestions and i will go ahead and start
trying them out. I will let you know what I find. thanks!



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[BlindHandyMan] Handy Man Tips

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Everyone
Valuable Measures

Ever wonder who decided what 'standard units' of measurements should be? A 
"foot" got its name from the length of King Charlemagne's tootsie. An inch 
was
the distance between knuckles on King Edgar's index finger. A yard was the 
distance between King Henry I's nose and thumb. The distance of a mile was 
determined
by counting 1,000 steps of a Roman Legion. Standard units of measure make it 
easy to communicate size and shapes. If you are out shopping and don't have
a ruler handy, just take out a quarter. It's exactly 1 inch across or a 
dollar bill, which measures 6 inches across.
Vacuum sealed storage

Margaret Mitchell who wrote "Gone With the Wind" was born on this day. 
Little did she know her novel's title would also become the scientific 
principle
for a method of preserving food and protecting many other things from air 
contact. Of course, we're referring to vacuum sealing, which we've all seen 
advertised
on TV. Pricey little machines suck the air out of plastic bags then heat 
seal them to protect and preserve whatever's inside. While this is a good 
thing,
you might not know that you already have the tools at home to do it 
yourself. All you need is a plastic bag, a vacuum cleaner with a hose and 
some twist
ties. With the item of your choice in the bag, insert the vacuum hose, 
gather the plastic tightly around the hose. Turn on the vacuum and draw out 
the
air. Then secure it with a twist tie, remove the hose and, just like that, 
the need for a pricey vacuum sealing machine is "gone with the wind.
Un-Stick Stuck Photos

Today, lots of folks are converting favorite photos of cherished moments 
with family and friends from regular prints to digital photos, where, once 
scanned
into your PC, they can be restored to pristine condition. You can then make 
them better than new with photo management software. But what if you find 
some
of your old photos are stuck together? How can you separate them without 
damaging the image? Easy! Just put them in the freezer for 20 minutes and 
gently
break them apart with a butter knife. It may take two or more tries before 
they loosen. It's worth noting that Marilyn Monroe was born on this day, and
one of her hit movies was ?Some Like It Hot,? which is your second choice if 
freezing doesn't work. For super-stuck prints, try heating photos from the
back with a hair dryer to gently soften the reverse side. Use extra care 
prying warmed photos apart, as the softened surface can be easily damaged. 
Then
scan Marilyn and all your other pictures into photo perpetuity!
Toughen up sand paper

Paper was invented in China in 105 A.D. and it remained pretty much the same 
for almost two thousand years, until on this day in 1834, Isaac Fisher Jr.
of Springfield, VT made it "tougher" by inventing "Sand Paper"! While a 
great solution for smoothing surfaces and removing paint or rust, we often 
found
the paper backing on sandpaper gave out long before the abrasive side did. 
Until today, when both paper and sandpaper again made a quantum leap 
forward,
technology-wise! Indeed, to keep the paper backing from wearing out long 
before the abrasive sand paper side does first cover the back of the sheet 
with
duct tape. Cut it to size as needed and it'll last much longer!
Soda Tab Picture Hangers

You want to hang a new piece of art you've acquired and realize there's no 
hanger on the frame.
, we bring out pop-top smarts. When you find yourself in need of a picture 
hanger (or two), instead of heading out to the hardware store or local
art-supply house, head for the fridge and grab a cold one (a beer or soda 
can). Then, as you pop it open, continue wiggling the tab. After a time or 
two,
it'll break off and you'll be left holding the perfect picture hanger. Just 
nail or screw the bottom edge to your frame, bend the top out slightly and
place the hole on your wall hook or nail. Then settle back, sip your drink 
and admire your newly hung artwork.
Slick Ideas: WD-40/3-In-One Oil

Petroleum jelly began on his day in 1859, when an enterprising young man 
found a clever use for a pesky byproduct of drilling for oil. Soon, this 
translucent
goo (later called Vaseline) became a ?slick idea? with endless uses and a 
must-have product in American homes. WD-40 and 3-in-1 oil are two more 
lubricants
that made the transition from industrial to everyday Main Street U.S.A. If 
you (like everyone else) use them, you're in for another pleasant surprise!
Ever lost that little red straw from WD-40 or dropped the can and broken off 
the spray nozzle? Now it's a thing of the past! New caps have a groove in
the top to hold the straw, and spray nozzle heads are beefed-up and 
stronger. As for 3-in-one oil, the old square can and plastic tip have given 
way to
a new soft plastic bottle shaped like a half-round flat bottom oil 
dispenser. It even has a long extended spout for hard-to-reach places. Now 
those are
some slick ideas!
Silver Tarnish Remover

In 1914 C

Re: [BlindHandyMan] what to know about replacing your central unit

[Kevin Doucet]

Hi,

My Gas company checked for CO and all was well.

At 12:52 AM 2/16/2007 -0600, you wrote:

>You might have a hole in the heat exchanger. If you do you could wake up
>dead some morning. Better run to the nearest store and buy a C O detector.
>And do it tonight.
>
>Regards.
>
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>
> > Hi list,
> >
> > This just might be a question especially for Boyce Ray, but, I
> > welcome any help from all!
> >
> > I have been smelling gas when my heating unit starts up. The gas
> > seemed to be coming from the air vents. I had my gas company come out
> > to see if it was the gas meter and they tell me it is the burner
> > being clogged and needing servicing. I had a local HVAC company come
> > out and clean the burner but I think I still am smelling gas. Can
> > this just be an accumulation of gas which has not dissipated or do I
> > need to get the HVAC folks back out?
> >
> > Also, my central unit, natural gas heating and electric air is
> > getting long in the tooth. It is not energy sufficient and I an
> > thinking about replacing it. I would like to know what to consider
> > when replacing this sort of unit and as well as any and all
> > ramifications and concerns that matter with an undertaking of this
> > type. I am not considering doing it myself. I just want to know
> > things to look at and consider; IE, energy savings verses cost of
> > replacement, tax rebates for this sort of home improvement, heat pump
> > verses a duel gas heat / electric A C, ETC.
> >
> > Any and all help is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Doucet
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

Aloha Boop,
I think it is the other way round. We were told that we could put 
oil-based over the water-based that we had. That was ten years ago 
and it still looks great.
Betsy
At 10:19 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote:

>Hi gang,
>I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
>paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
>the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
>paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Boop
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Dale Leavens]

Put a slight tooth on the original paint with a quick rub with medium sand 
paper, maybe 120 grit, probably garnet or aluminium oxide which is sharp and 
less likely to clog.

you don't need a lot and you should wash the surface and let it dry before 
applying the water based paint.

What you are doing is removing any surface oil and breaking the surface of 
the old paint just enough to give the latex something to hold onto.

Have fun!


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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question


> Hi gang,
> I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
> paint.  Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
> the oil base paint so I can do this?  We aren't positive the
> paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is.  Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Boop
>
>
>
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[tunecollector]

Wow!  I was in the no latex on oil base camp.  Now I am confused.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

Odd i remember it the other way around. You can paint latex, water based,
over oil. Putting oil paint over latex doesn't work. Hope this lessens your
concern.
In a similar fashion one can put enamel over lacquer, but don't put laquer
over enamel. It tends to dislove it while it is wet. Lacquer thinner does a
great job of cleaning up other paint.
Ron
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To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

Hi gang,
I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Boop

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[R & S Enterprises]

Odd i remember it the other way around.  You can paint latex, water based, over 
oil.  Putting oil paint over latex doesn't work.  Hope this lessens your 
concern.
In a similar fashion one can put enamel over lacquer, but don't put laquer over 
enamel.  It tends to dislove it while it is wet.  Lacquer thinner does a great 
job of cleaning up other paint.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Boop 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:19 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question


  Hi gang,
  I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
  paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
  the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
  paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
  suggestions?

  Thanks,
  Boop



   

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[BlindHandyMan] casters

[Lenny McHugh]

Hi Listers,
Is there a trick on how to figure out the correct height of casters? I just 
brought the TV stand up stairs and have a small problem that I can correct. I 
mounted the casters so that 3/4" of the wheel protrudes from the bottom. Well 
the drawer that I built in the bottom does not work. It is sunk into the 
carpet.  I am planning on first putting a 1/4" shim under the wheels, then if 
necessary 3/8" and then 1/2" shims until I find one that will work. There must 
be an easy way to figure out exactly what measurement I need.
My daughter doesn't care she just wants the stand in her room. I will make her 
wait at least 48 hours to make sure that the polyurethane is cured.

Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/

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[BlindHandyMan] FW: Visit Canadian Home Workshop show this weekend

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Armando Del Gobbo]

I believe that there is primer that can be applied! 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Boop 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:19 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question


  Hi gang,
  I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
  paint. Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
  the oil base paint so I can do this? We aren't positive the
  paint we are covering is oil base, but with our luck, it is. Any
  suggestions?

  Thanks,
  Boop



   


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[BlindHandyMan] Oil base paint question

[Boop]

Hi gang,
I know you can not use water base paint over oil base
paint.  Is there something I can do, or use, short of removing
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suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

Lenny,
I remember reading somewhere that this is now available in a clear 
substance as well as the bright orange. When I googled Hi Marks it 
took me to several places including American Foundation for the 
Blind. I saw references to Hi Marks on their website, but couldn't 
find anywhere to get an item number for it. Their number is:
800-232-5463

Also, the American Printinghouse for the Blind had references to it 
on their site but I again couldn't find it. Their number is:
800-223-1839
Betsy
At 02:16 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can purchase Hi Marks in the Us? In the past I used
>and really liked this product. For some reason I can no longer locate the
>product. So far I have ordered it from three different sources and what I am
>sent is fabric paint. The Hi Marks that I used in the past came in a tube
>that had a very small end that the glue like stuff came out. I want to mark
>my table saw at a few tilt positions.
>
>Please send me the information off list.Thanks
>Lenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>- Original Message -
>From: "martin webster" 
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>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells
>
>Hi John,
>I use a product called high mark and more recently millyput. A sighted
>person has to use the high mark which comes in a tube and takes a great
>amout of skill to apply, but the results are very great. I have seen lathes
>and milling machines marked with this stuff. Millyput is two sticks of what
>all most feels like hard plastersene
>whish you mix in equal amouts and need together until they are thuraly
>mixed. I have good results with these to, products. I can produce braille
>dots for mocrowaves washers dryers cookers and so on. It is even possible
>to produce very readable braille, It's very fiddly, but It gets results.
>The more time you are prepared to work with these two products the better
>the results. Hope this helps. High mark is abailable from the RNIB in
>england, and millyput is available from any good hardware/ironmounger shop.
>Regards
>Martin Webster
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>wrote:
>Two ideas,
>
>1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue,
>andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?
>
>2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side
>whre you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal
>strip so that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression
>on the face side?
>
>--
>Larry Martin
>Woodworking for the Blind
>--joining the world of blind wood workers
>
>-- Original message --
>From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas. I need
>a
> > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it.
>I am
> > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat
>surfaces. I
> > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be
>seen by
> > sighted individuals. What I have come up with is to use half beads and
>glue
> > dots. It works well but now I need to get my spacing down. This
>flexible peace
> > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape
>in
> > between. I need it to last as well.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially if there is an
>off the
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> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > John
> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[NLG]

Lennie,

I tried googling the distributer and came up empty, however if you google 
"spot'n line pen" you will find it.  Note the spelling of "spot'n line pen".


  - Original Message - 
  From: NLG 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:49
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells


  Here is what you are looking for. My bottle is a few years old, hopefully the 
company is still in business.

  Spot'n Line Pen distributed by;
  See-More Vision Aiding Co.
  Farmingdale, NY. 11735

  Hope this helps :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 07:16
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells

  Does anyone know where I can purchase Hi Marks in the Us? In the past I used 
  and really liked this product. For some reason I can no longer locate the 
  product. So far I have ordered it from three different sources and what I am 
  sent is fabric paint. The Hi Marks that I used in the past came in a tube 
  that had a very small end that the glue like stuff came out. I want to mark 
  my table saw at a few tilt positions.

  Please send me the information off list.Thanks
  Lenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  From: "martin webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells

  Hi John,
  I use a product called high mark and more recently millyput. A sighted 
  person has to use the high mark which comes in a tube and takes a great 
  amout of skill to apply, but the results are very great. I have seen lathes 
  and milling machines marked with this stuff. Millyput is two sticks of what 
  all most feels like hard plastersene
  whish you mix in equal amouts and need together until they are thuraly 
  mixed. I have good results with these to, products. I can produce braille 
  dots for mocrowaves washers dryers cookers and so on. It is even possible 
  to produce very readable braille, It's very fiddly, but It gets results. 
  The more time you are prepared to work with these two products the better 
  the results. Hope this helps. High mark is abailable from the RNIB in 
  england, and millyput is available from any good hardware/ironmounger shop.
  Regards
  Martin Webster

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Two ideas,

  1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue, 
  andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?

  2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side 
  whre you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal 
  strip so that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression 
  on the face side?

  --
  Larry Martin
  Woodworking for the Blind
  --joining the world of blind wood workers

  -- Original message --
  From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas. I need 
  a
  > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it. 
  I am
  > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat 
  surfaces. I
  > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be 
  seen by
  > sighted individuals. What I have come up with is to use half beads and 
  glue
  > dots. It works well but now I need to get my spacing down. This 
  flexible peace
  > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape 
  in
  > between. I need it to last as well.
  >
  > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially if there is an 
  off the
  > shelf item someone knows about.
  >
  > Thanks
  >
  > John
  >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[NLG]

Here is what you are looking for.  My bottle is a few years old, hopefully the 
company is  still in business.

Spot'n Line Pen distributed by;
See-More Vision Aiding Co.
Farmingdale, NY.  11735

Hope this helps :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 07:16
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells


  Does anyone know where I can purchase Hi Marks in the Us? In the past I used 
  and really liked this product. For some reason I can no longer locate the 
  product. So far I have ordered it from three different sources and what I am 
  sent is fabric paint. The Hi Marks that I used in the past came in a tube 
  that had a very small end that the glue like stuff came out. I want to mark 
  my table saw at a few tilt positions.

  Please send me the information off list.Thanks
  Lenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message - 
  From: "martin webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells

  Hi John,
  I use a product called high mark and more recently millyput. A sighted 
  person has to use the high mark which comes in a tube and takes a great 
  amout of skill to apply, but the results are very great. I have seen lathes 
  and milling machines marked with this stuff. Millyput is two sticks of what 
  all most feels like hard plastersene
  whish you mix in equal amouts and need together until they are thuraly 
  mixed. I have good results with these to, products. I can produce braille 
  dots for mocrowaves washers dryers cookers and so on. It is even possible 
  to produce very readable braille, It's very fiddly, but It gets results. 
  The more time you are prepared to work with these two products the better 
  the results. Hope this helps. High mark is abailable from the RNIB in 
  england, and millyput is available from any good hardware/ironmounger shop.
  Regards
  Martin Webster

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Two ideas,

  1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue, 
  andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?

  2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side 
  whre you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal 
  strip so that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression 
  on the face side?

  --
  Larry Martin
  Woodworking for the Blind
  --joining the world of blind wood workers

  -- Original message --
  From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas. I need 
  a
  > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it. 
  I am
  > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat 
  surfaces. I
  > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be 
  seen by
  > sighted individuals. What I have come up with is to use half beads and 
  glue
  > dots. It works well but now I need to get my spacing down. This 
  flexible peace
  > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape 
  in
  > between. I need it to last as well.
  >
  > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially if there is an 
  off the
  > shelf item someone knows about.
  >
  > Thanks
  >
  > John
  >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[Mickey Fixsen]

I have made Braille tags in both thin brass and thin sheet metal by putting the 
metal in a slate and use an automatic center punch to punch the dots.  I would 
think a pperson could use this method and then drill out the punch marks to 
make flexible Braille cell templates.  It would be a bit tedious, but it should 
work.


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells


  Two ideas,

  1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue, 
andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?

  2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side 
whre you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal 
strip so that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression on 
the face side?

  --
  Larry Martin
  Woodworking for the Blind
  --joining the world of blind wood workers

  -- Original message --
  From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas. I need a 
  > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it. I 
am 
  > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat surfaces. 
I 
  > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be 
seen by 
  > sighted individuals. What I have come up with is to use half beads and glue 
  > dots. It works well but now I need to get my spacing down. This flexible 
peace 
  > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape in 
  > between. I need it to last as well.
  > 
  > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially if there is an off 
the 
  > shelf item someone knows about.
  > 
  > Thanks
  > 
  > John
  > 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] (hi marks) Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[Lenny McHugh]

Does anyone know where I can purchase Hi Marks in the Us? In the past I used 
and really liked this product. For some reason I can no longer locate the 
product. So far I have ordered it from three different sources and what I am 
sent is fabric paint. The Hi Marks that I used in the past came in a tube 
that had a very small end that the glue like stuff came out. I want to mark 
my table saw at a few tilt positions.

Please send me the information off list.Thanks
Lenny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "martin webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells


Hi John,
I use a product called high mark and more recently millyput.  A sighted 
person has to use the high mark which comes in a tube and takes a great 
amout of skill to apply, but the results are very great.  I have seen lathes 
and milling machines marked with this stuff.  Millyput is two sticks of what 
all most feels like hard plastersene
 whish you mix in equal amouts and need together until they are thuraly 
mixed.  I have good results with these to, products.  I can produce braille 
dots for mocrowaves washers dryers cookers and so on.  It is even possible 
to produce very readable braille,  It's very fiddly, but It gets results. 
The more time you are prepared to work with these two products the better 
the results.  Hope this helps.  High mark is abailable from the RNIB in 
england, and millyput is available from any good hardware/ironmounger shop.
Regards
Martin Webster

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Two ideas,

 1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue, 
andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?

 2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side 
whre you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal 
strip so that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression 
on the face side?

 --
 Larry Martin
 Woodworking for the Blind
 --joining the world of blind wood workers

 -- Original message --
 From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas.  I need 
a
 > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it. 
I am
 > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat 
surfaces.  I
 > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be 
seen by
 > sighted individuals.  What I have come up with is to use half beads and 
glue
 > dots.  It works well but now I need to get my spacing down.  This 
flexible peace
 > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape 
in
 > between.  I need it to last as well.
 >
 > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Especially if there is an 
off the
 > shelf item someone knows about.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > John
 >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Flexible Pattern Braille cells

[martin webster]

Hi John,
I use a product called high mark and more recently millyput.  A sighted person 
has to use the high mark which comes in a tube and takes a great amout of skill 
to apply, but the results are very great.  I have seen lathes and milling 
machines marked with this stuff.  Millyput is two sticks of what all most feels 
like hard plastersene
 whish you mix in equal amouts and need together until they are thuraly mixed.  
I have good results with these to, products.  I can produce braille dots for 
mocrowaves washers dryers cookers and so on.  It is even possible to produce 
very readable braille,  It's very fiddly, but It gets results.  The more time 
you are prepared to work with these two products the better the results.  Hope 
this helps.  High mark is abailable from the RNIB in england, and millyput is 
available from any good hardware/ironmounger shop. 
Regards
Martin Webster

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Two ideas,
 
 1 - would it make any sense to take a fine stylus, dip the end in glue, 
andapply a tiny glue drop to the surface?
 
 2 - would it make any sense to use a thin metal strip on its reverse side whre 
you would take a pointed metal punch and tap the surface of the metal strip so 
that a depression is made on the back side and a raised impression on the face 
side?
 
 --
 Larry Martin
 Woodworking for the Blind
 --joining the world of blind wood workers
 
 -- Original message --
 From: John Freiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > I need to find a product and this list seems to have good ideas.  I need a 
 > flexible peace of metal with two rows of braille dots drilled out in it.  I 
 > am 
 > trying to glue dots on different items and none have regular flat surfaces.  
 > I 
 > know I could use dymo tape but it won't work because I need it not to be 
 > seen by 
 > sighted individuals.  What I have come up with is to use half beads and glue 
 > dots.  It works well but now I need to get my spacing down.  This flexible 
 > peace 
 > of metal needs to go around cylinders, cones, ovals and any other shape in 
 > between.  I need it to last as well.
 > 
 > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Especially if there is an off 
 > the 
 > shelf item someone knows about.
 > 
 > Thanks
 > 
 > John
 > 
 
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