Re: [BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.

[Jewel Blanch]

I know that Ray appreciates someone who has knowledge of the subject pointing 
out any errors in the articles he posts

Jewel
  - Original Message - 
  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.


  A couple of corrections.

  Edison's invention wasn't called the victrola. That was a registered 
  trademark of the Victor corporation. The machine that was known as the 
  Victrola played disk records not cylinders.

  Then the article says...

  In about 1887, Valdemar Poulsen, a Danish scientist, used the same 
  principles to record sound on a magnetic tape.

  I don't believe that. First of all, the principle of acoustic recording and 
  magnetic recording are very different. Edison's machine used no 
  electricity, except maybe to make the cylinder go around. The home playback 
  machines used a spring motor for that. I aught to know because I own to of 
  them with about 350 cylinders.

  Magnetic recording couldn't have been done in 1887 because there weren't any 
  vacuum tubes to amplify the small signal from the playback head for 
  reproduction by a headphone. Recording could have been accomplished using 
  telephone techniques but there would have been no way to play it back.

  I have heard of experiments and demonstrations of magnetic recording on 
  metal tape done in the 1930s. The Germans perfected magnetic wire recording 
  during WW II and Sears Roebuck marketed a successful wire recorder in 1948. 
  I have one of those also.

  Magnetic tape came into the radio and recording studio in 1950 and hit the 
  consumer market about 3 years later. It quickly replaced the wire recorder 
  because the tape was more robust than the somewhat fragile wire.

  Just because somebody posted it on their web site doesn't mean it is 
  correct. Please don't take this personally Ray. I know you do a lot of 
  hard work for the list. Keep posting and the rest of us will jump in when 
  we spot an error.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:08 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.

  Hi Everyone
  How is an lp record made?

  Background

  Sound has always
  fascinated
  human listeners, but, until late in the 1800s, it eluded capture. This fact 
  seems peculiar to us today because, with compact discs, cassette tapes, 
  highly
  portable players, automobiles with
  lush
  sound systems, hundreds of radio stations on the dial, television stations 
  devoted to music, and a
  myriad
  of other broadcast sounds, we are surrounded by sound.

  Among the solid forms that music and other recordings have taken in their 
  brief history, the long-playing
  phonograph
  record may be the most romantic and among the most cherished. Phonograph 
  records are no longer manufactured except by private parties with the 
  equipment
  and the interest, and most sound systems are not equipped with turntables. 
  Long-playing records, known as LPs, are coveted by collectors, however, and
  there is a large secondary market in used records among aficionados of 
  particular types of music like jazz or opera or performers like
  Frank Sinatra
  or the Beatles.

  History

  The long-playing record was a direct descendant of the first record made and 
  played on November 20, 1877, by Thomas Edison. Edison's bounty of inventions
  came from a thorough understanding of science. Edison knew that sound 
  consists of a vibrating wave of air molecules that enters our ears, strikes 
  the
  eardrum
  and sets up vibrations in the tiny bones of the inner ear, and passes along 
  nerve endings to the brain. The brain decodes these vibrations as sounds. 
  The
  number of vibrations per second is the frequency of the sound, and those 
  vibrating waves have
  amplitude
  or size that we interpret as loudness or softness. Any and all sounds have 
  these properties so, to record a bird's song, the symphony of vibrations 
  produced
  by the instruments in an orchestra, or the voice of the lead singer in a 
  rock band, the same techniques are used.

  Edison's victrola recorded the sound and played it back. He used a metal 
  cylinder with open ends that was wrapped with a sheet of
  tinfoil.
  By speaking into a "sounding disc" that vibrated and was attached to a 
  stylus or needle, the vibrations Edison created by speaking were etched by 
  the stylus
  onto the tinfoil. The etching looked like small hills and valleys that 
  spiraled around the cylinder. To play back his recording, Edison moved the 
  needle
  back to t

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

[robert moore]

I don't remember when or where this was because I am sure it was at least 25
years ago but I was at a archery range and what they had set up was a light
on top of the target and a sencer that mounted above the arrow on the bow.
It had a wire that ran to a ear piece so as the pitch changed you could tell
if you were aiming at the center or shall we say the bulls eye.
I know that was kind of a crewd description but as I said it was a long time
ago. Sad to say I haven't a clew where you might find such a beest.
I might suggest that you go to some where such as a radio shaft and see if
they have a small battery operated buzzer that you could attach.
Another idea is to go to a junk yard and pull all the dash speakers you can
get your hands on and mount them one at a time in the bulls eye and turn on
some oppra running a wire from the speeker to a radio and then try to put
the opra singer out of your mizzery. Only reason for getting all the
speekers you can is that when you get reall good you will end up breaking
the speakers when you hit them.
I actually never tried this so if any one tries this let us know how it
works.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:13 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

What can a blind person attach to the target to make noise to help the blind
person locate the target?
Michael


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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 23:07
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

Michael , the most standard and durable target for bow and arrows used
to be made with hay bales with a cloth or plastic wrap and or cover. I
will ask this weekend at my car race what they use at the camp for
blind children . interesting enough . the instructor for archery at
that camp has been a blind lady. I have been invited to go to that
camp later this summer so I will" scout out the place". Lee

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[BlindHandyMan] Wind farms

[robert moore]

Max
Could you not say the same thing about large cities as they grow rapidly.
The only exeption I might think about nothing comes for free and every thing
is inter related is solar. I could very well be wrong but what would you
loose or change with the use of solar.


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Max Robinson
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:14 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

The amount of water isn't really unlimited. That water isn't being
manufactured, it has to come out of the air. If done on a very large scale
it would dry the air and reduce rainfall in the local area. There are
studies that suggest large wind farms are taking so much energy out of the
wind the local climate is being effected. Everything is interrelated and
nothing comes for free.

Regards.

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From: "Boyce, Ray" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >
To: < blindhandyman@Yahoogroups.Com 
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

> Hi Everyone
> How good is this invention, is this the answer to the Worlds water
> problems.
> - Two architects pursuing PhDs at the Technion-Israel Institute of
> Technology have devised a low-tech way to collect dew from the air and
> turn it into fresh
> water. Their invention recently won an international competition seeking
> to make clean, safe water available to millions around the world.
>
> WatAir, shown here in an artistic rendering, could produce an unlimited
> supply of fresh water even in remote and polluted places. (Credit: Image
> courtesy
> of American Technion Society)
>
> The brainchild of Technion Architecture and Building Planning grad
> students Joseph Cory and Eyal Malka, "WatAir," is an inverted pyramid
> array of panels
> that collects dew from the air and turns it into fresh water in almost
> any climate.
>
> Inspired by the dew-collecting properties of leaves, one 315 sq ft unit
> can extract a minimum of 48 liters of fresh water from the air each day.
> Depending
> on the number of collectors used, an unlimited daily supply of water
> could be produced even in remote and polluted places.
>
> According to Cory, WatAir can be easily incorporated into both rural and
> urban landscapes because it has a relatively small base. Its vertical
> and diagonal
> design utilizes gravity to increase the collection areas. The panels are
> flexible and easy to collapse when not in use, and provide shelter from
> rain and
> heat and play areas for children.
>
> "WatAir is a wonderfully simple concept which draws its inspiration from
> nature," said competition judge Jo da Silva. "This is a simple and
> effective idea
> using tried and tested technology."
>
> The project was selected from 100 entries from North America, Europe,
> Africa and Asia as the winner of the "drawing water challenge" sponsored
> by Arup -
> a global firm of designers, engineers, planners and business consultants
> specializing in innovative and sustainable design.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

[Michael Baldwin]

What can a blind person attach to the target to make noise to help the blind
person locate the target?
Michael
 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 23:07
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Targets




Michael , the most standard and durable target for bow and arrows used 
to be made with hay bales with a cloth or plastic wrap and or cover. I 
will ask this weekend at my car race what they use at the camp for 
blind children . interesting enough . the instructor for archery at 
that camp has been a blind lady. I have been invited to go to that 
camp later this summer so I will" scout out the place". Lee

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

[Max Robinson]

The amount of water isn't really unlimited.  That water isn't being 
manufactured, it has to come out of the air.  If done on a very large scale 
it would dry the air and reduce rainfall in the local area.  There are 
studies that suggest large wind farms are taking so much energy out of the 
wind the local climate is being effected.  Everything is interrelated and 
nothing comes for free.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air


> Hi Everyone
> How good is this invention, is this the answer to the Worlds water
> problems.
> - Two architects pursuing PhDs at the Technion-Israel Institute of
> Technology have devised a low-tech way to collect dew from the air and
> turn it into fresh
> water. Their invention recently won an international competition seeking
> to make clean, safe water available to millions around the world.
>
> WatAir, shown here in an artistic rendering, could produce an unlimited
> supply of fresh water even in remote and polluted places. (Credit: Image
> courtesy
> of American Technion Society)
>
> The brainchild of Technion Architecture and Building Planning grad
> students Joseph Cory and Eyal Malka, "WatAir," is an inverted pyramid
> array of panels
> that collects dew from the air and turns it into fresh water in almost
> any climate.
>
> Inspired by the dew-collecting properties of leaves, one 315 sq ft unit
> can extract a minimum of 48 liters of fresh water from the air each day.
> Depending
> on the number of collectors used, an unlimited daily supply of water
> could be produced even in remote and polluted places.
>
> According to Cory, WatAir can be easily incorporated into both rural and
> urban landscapes because it has a relatively small base. Its vertical
> and diagonal
> design utilizes gravity to increase the collection areas. The panels are
> flexible and easy to collapse when not in use, and provide shelter from
> rain and
> heat and play areas for children.
>
> "WatAir is a wonderfully simple concept which draws its inspiration from
> nature," said competition judge Jo da Silva. "This is a simple and
> effective idea
> using tried and tested technology."
>
> The project was selected from 100 entries from North America, Europe,
> Africa and Asia as the winner of the "drawing water challenge" sponsored
> by Arup -
> a global firm of designers, engineers, planners and business consultants
> specializing in innovative and sustainable design.
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

[Lee A. Stone]

Michael , the most standard and durable target for bow and arrows used 
to be made with hay bales with a cloth or plastic wrap and or cover. I 
will ask this weekend  at my car race what they use at the camp  for 
blind children . interesting enough . the  instructor for archery at 
that camp has been a blind lady.  I have been invited  to go to that 
camp  later this summer so I will" scout out the place". Lee



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.

[Max Robinson]

A couple of corrections.

Edison's invention wasn't called the victrola.  That was a registered 
trademark of the Victor corporation.  The machine that was known as the 
Victrola played disk records not cylinders.

Then the article says...

In about 1887, Valdemar Poulsen, a Danish scientist, used the same 
principles to record sound on a magnetic tape.

I don't believe that.  First of all, the principle of acoustic recording and 
magnetic recording are very different.  Edison's machine used no 
electricity, except maybe to make the cylinder go around.  The home playback 
machines used a spring motor for that.  I aught to know because I own to of 
them with about 350 cylinders.

Magnetic recording couldn't have been done in 1887 because there weren't any 
vacuum tubes to amplify the small signal from the playback head for 
reproduction by a headphone.  Recording could have been accomplished using 
telephone techniques but there would have been no way to play it back.

I have heard of experiments and demonstrations of magnetic recording on 
metal tape done in the 1930s.  The Germans perfected magnetic wire recording 
during WW II and Sears Roebuck marketed a successful wire recorder in 1948. 
I have one of those also.

Magnetic tape came into the radio and recording studio in 1950 and hit the 
consumer market about 3 years later.  It quickly replaced the wire recorder 
because the tape was more robust than the somewhat fragile wire.

Just because somebody posted it on their web site doesn't mean it is 
correct.  Please don't take this personally Ray.  I know you do a lot of 
hard work for the list.  Keep posting and the rest of us will jump in when 
we spot an error.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.


Hi Everyone
How is an lp record made?

Background

Sound has always
fascinated
human listeners, but, until late in the 1800s, it eluded capture. This fact 
seems peculiar to us today because, with compact discs, cassette tapes, 
highly
portable players, automobiles with
lush
sound systems, hundreds of radio stations on the dial, television stations 
devoted to music, and a
myriad
of other broadcast sounds, we are surrounded by sound.

Among the solid forms that music and other recordings have taken in their 
brief history, the long-playing
phonograph
record may be the most romantic and among the most cherished. Phonograph 
records are no longer manufactured except by private parties with the 
equipment
and the interest, and most sound systems are not equipped with turntables. 
Long-playing records, known as LPs, are coveted by collectors, however, and
there is a large secondary market in used records among aficionados of 
particular types of music like jazz or opera or performers like
Frank Sinatra
or the Beatles.

History

The long-playing record was a direct descendant of the first record made and 
played on November 20, 1877, by Thomas Edison. Edison's bounty of inventions
came from a thorough understanding of science. Edison knew that sound 
consists of a vibrating wave of air molecules that enters our ears, strikes 
the
eardrum
and sets up vibrations in the tiny bones of the inner ear, and passes along 
nerve endings to the brain. The brain decodes these vibrations as sounds. 
The
number of vibrations per second is the frequency of the sound, and those 
vibrating waves have
amplitude
or size that we interpret as loudness or softness. Any and all sounds have 
these properties so, to record a bird's song, the symphony of vibrations 
produced
by the instruments in an orchestra, or the voice of the lead singer in a 
rock band, the same techniques are used.

Edison's victrola recorded the sound and played it back. He used a metal 
cylinder with open ends that was wrapped with a sheet of
tinfoil.
By speaking into a "sounding disc" that vibrated and was attached to a 
stylus or needle, the vibrations Edison created by speaking were etched by 
the stylus
onto the tinfoil. The etching looked like small hills and valleys that 
spiraled around the cylinder. To play back his recording, Edison moved the 
needle
back to the start of the record of the vibrations and revolved the cylinder 
at the same speed as it had moved during recording. The vibrations came back
out of the sounding disc and were amplified by the cup, or primitive
microphone,
into which Edison had spoken.

Following significant improvements to his phonograph, the first records were 
made of wax cylinders. Jules Levy, a
coronet
player, is credited as being the first recording artist. He played "Yankee 
Doodle" on his coronet, and the wax cylinder of 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Aluminum Foil Lamps Outshine Incandescent Lights

[Lee A. Stone]

Ray, I found this article  very interesting   in the fact this type of 
lighting for some might replace night lights  and other  lower cost 
lighting. as many of us know, depending on your vision loss   will 
depend on what lighting if any will help in either doing  daily chores 
or just basic  living. No amount of lighting  would help me now but if 
all this works out to be on the market one day it would be great   for 
many home owners. what is the type of lighting used many years ago to 
light up  the windows of a bar or resturant ? I remember that had some 
sort of gas in it.Imagine the research  reports that must have hit the  
public  many years ago when someone said they could bend glass tubing to 
make a sign for  attracting business. L.



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Ladder attachments

[Lee A. Stone]

Bob, you said" rubber ends" so are these legs? the Ladder I want to use 
is one that hangs outside on a fence year round. I remember long ago  on 
the list. maybe two years  something about  rubber ends or legs that  
allows the ladder still close to the house but resting on the roof so as 
not to damage the siding. I thought of that today as  we need to get up 
to clean out the gutters again. all those whirling thingees off the 
maple tree and off the neighbors willow tree have things plugged up. 
Last rain I could hear the water running over the top of  the gutter. 
thanks.Lee



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] wind spinners

[Boop]

Try this site Lenny:

http://thewinfieldcollection.com/csearch.aspx?search=whirligig

I just did a search for whirligig on Google, and got a lot of
hits, then tried whirligig plans and got this.  There were many
others listed too.

Have a good one,
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[BlindHandyMan] wind spinners

[Lenny McHugh]

Has anyone made wind spinners? I have been looking for some patterns and have 
not been able to locate any.

Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/

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[BlindHandyMan] A little Bit on Magnets

[Boyce, Ray]

Hi All
How is a magnet made?

Background

A magnet is a material that can
exert
a noticeable force on other materials without actually contacting them. This 
force is known as a magnetic force and may either attract or
repel.
While all known materials exert some sort of magnetic force, it is so small in 
most materials that it is not readily noticeable. With other materials, the
magnetic force is much larger, and these are referred to as magnets. The Earth 
itself is a huge magnet.

Some magnets, known as permanent magnets, exert a force on objects without any 
outside influence. The
iron
ore
magnetite,
also known as
lodestone,
is a natural permanent magnet. Other permanent magnets can be made by 
subjecting certain materials to a magnetic force. When the force is removed, 
these
materials retain their own magnetic properties. Although the magnetic 
properties may change over time or at elevated temperatures, these materials are
generally considered to be permanently magnetized, hence the name.

Other magnets are known as electromagnets. They are made by surrounding certain 
materials with a
coil
of wire. When an electric current is passed through the coil, these materials 
exert a magnetic force. When the current is shut off, the magnetic force of
these materials drops to nearly zero. Electromagnet materials retain little, if 
any, magnetic properties without a flow of electric current in the coil.

All magnets have two points where the magnetic force is greatest. These two 
points are known as the poles. For a rectangular or cylindrical bar magnet,
these poles would be at opposite ends. One pole is called the north-seeking 
pole, or north pole, and the other pole is called the south-seeking, or south
pole. This terminology reflects one of the earliest uses of magnetic materials 
such as lodestone. When suspended from a string, the north pole of these
first crude compasses would always "seek" or point towards the north. This 
aided sailors in judging the direction to steer to reach distant lands and 
return
home.

In our present technology, magnet applications include compasses, electric 
motors, microwave ovens, coin-operated vending machines, light meters for 
photography,
automobile horns, televisions, loudspeakers, and tape recorders. A simple
refrigerator
note holder and a complex medical
magnetic resonance imaging
device both utilize magnets.

History

Naturally occurring magnetic lodestone was studied and used by the Greeks as 
early as 500 B.C. Other civilizations may have known of it earlier than that.
The word magnet is derived from the Greek name magnetis lithos, the stone of 
Magnesia, referring to the region on the Aegean coast in present-day Turkey
where these magnetic stones were found.

The first use of a lodestone as a compass is generally believed to have 
occurred in Europe in about A.D. 1100 to A.D. 1200. The term lodestone comes 
from
the Anglo-Saxon meaning "leading stone," or literally, "the stone that leads." 
The Icelandic word is leider-stein, and was used in writings of that period
in reference to the navigation of ships.

In 1600, English scientist William Gilbert confirmed earlier observations 
regarding magnetic poles and concluded that the Earth was a magnet. In 1820, the
Dutch scientist Hans Christian Oersted discovered the relationship between 
electricity and magnetism, and French physicist Andre Ampere further expanded
upon this discovery in 1821.

In the early 1900s, scientists began studying magnetic materials other than 
those based on iron and steel. By the 1930s, researchers had produced the first
powerful Alnico alloy permanent magnets. Even more powerful ceramic magnets 
using rare earth elements were successfully formulated in the 1970s with further
advances in this area in the 1980s.

Today, magnetic materials can be made to meet many different performance 
requirements depending on the final application.

Raw Materials

When making magnets, the raw materials are often more important than the 
manufacturing process. The materials used in permanent magnets (sometimes known
as hard materials, reflecting the early use of
alloy
steels for these magnets) are different than the materials used in 
electromagnets (some-times known as soft materials, reflecting the use of soft,
malleable iron
in this application).

Permanent Magnet Materials

Permanent magnet lodestones contain magnetite, a hard,
crystalline
iron ferrite mineral that derives its magnetism from the effect the earth's 
magnetic field has on it. Various steel alloys can also be magnetized. The first
big step in developing more effective permanent magnet materials came in the 
1930s with the development of Alnico alloy magnets. These magnets take their
name from the chemical symbols for the aluminum-nickel-cobalt elements used to 
make the alloy. Once magnetized, Alnico magnets have between 5 and 17 times
the magnetic force of magnetite.

Ceramic permanent magnets are made from finely powdered
barium
ferrite

[BlindHandyMan] LP Records and how they are Made.

[Boyce, Ray]

Hi Everyone
How is an lp record made?

Background

Sound has always
fascinated
human listeners, but, until late in the 1800s, it eluded capture. This fact 
seems peculiar to us today because, with compact discs, cassette tapes, highly
portable players, automobiles with
lush
sound systems, hundreds of radio stations on the dial, television stations 
devoted to music, and a
myriad
of other broadcast sounds, we are surrounded by sound.

Among the solid forms that music and other recordings have taken in their brief 
history, the long-playing
phonograph
record may be the most romantic and among the most cherished. Phonograph 
records are no longer manufactured except by private parties with the equipment
and the interest, and most sound systems are not equipped with turntables. 
Long-playing records, known as LPs, are coveted by collectors, however, and
there is a large secondary market in used records among aficionados of 
particular types of music like jazz or opera or performers like
Frank Sinatra
or the Beatles.

History

The long-playing record was a direct descendant of the first record made and 
played on November 20, 1877, by Thomas Edison. Edison's bounty of inventions
came from a thorough understanding of science. Edison knew that sound consists 
of a vibrating wave of air molecules that enters our ears, strikes the
eardrum
and sets up vibrations in the tiny bones of the inner ear, and passes along 
nerve endings to the brain. The brain decodes these vibrations as sounds. The
number of vibrations per second is the frequency of the sound, and those 
vibrating waves have
amplitude
or size that we interpret as loudness or softness. Any and all sounds have 
these properties so, to record a bird's song, the symphony of vibrations 
produced
by the instruments in an orchestra, or the voice of the lead singer in a rock 
band, the same techniques are used.

Edison's victrola recorded the sound and played it back. He used a metal 
cylinder with open ends that was wrapped with a sheet of
tinfoil.
By speaking into a "sounding disc" that vibrated and was attached to a stylus 
or needle, the vibrations Edison created by speaking were etched by the stylus
onto the tinfoil. The etching looked like small hills and valleys that spiraled 
around the cylinder. To play back his recording, Edison moved the needle
back to the start of the record of the vibrations and revolved the cylinder at 
the same speed as it had moved during recording. The vibrations came back
out of the sounding disc and were amplified by the cup, or primitive
microphone,
into which Edison had spoken.

Following significant improvements to his phonograph, the first records were 
made of wax cylinders. Jules Levy, a
coronet
player, is credited as being the first recording artist. He played "Yankee 
Doodle" on his coronet, and the wax cylinder of his rendition could be played
at home on the Edison Parlor Speaking Phonograph (the first home-use 
phonograph), which sold for $10 in 1878.

In about 1887, Valdemar Poulsen, a Danish scientist, used the same principles 
to record sound on a magnetic tape. At the turn of the century, the infant
recording industry made cylinders of various materials with permanent 
recordings on them, but World War II pushed the magnetic tape into broad 
acceptance
as the medium for recording sound and then transferring it to records. Leading 
recording companies like RCA Victor found that magnetic tape produced greater
fidelity, or faithful reproduction of sound, than other methods. Also, tape can 
easily be cut and edited to shorten,
lengthen,
or remove performance errors from recordings.

Until just after World War II, records were available in only one playing speed 
and turned on their turntables at a rate of 78 revolutions per minute (
rpm).
In 1948, Peter Carl Goldmark (1906-1977), an American physicist who had been 
born in Hungary, invented a record that revolved at less than half that speed,
at 33.33 times per minute. Improvements in production also allowed the track 
(the groove for the needle) to be narrowed, and these two developments allowed
six times as much music to be recorded on a single record. Large-scale record 
production was ready for the age of Elvis and rock and roll, and entire 
symphonies
could be
reproduced
on a single long-playing album instead of a set of 78s.

Raw Materials

The raw materials for record manufacture were subdivided into those needed to 
make the master disc, those for actual pressing of the records, and the paper
goods needed for labels, sleeves, and jackets. The master disc was made of black
lacquer,
so it could be etched with grooves to carry the sound. Silver was used to coat 
the finished disc, and chromium-plated nickel discs were used to press the
"vinyl" records.

Records were most commonly made of black plastic, although some were produced 
in other colors. Recording companies developed the designs for their own labels,
sleeves, and album jackets; however, manufacture of th

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Looking for an accessible ham radio HT

[Steve]

Try the THF6A, which works on 2, 220 and 440.  Direct keypad entry.

Accessible manual at http://www.icanworkthisthing.com.  All defaults in the 
menus have a distinctive beep; and the first menu has a lower beep.

You can turn the multi-channel knob to select the different menus; although the 
menu numbering is different in general coverage mode in a couple instances.

Steve, K8SP 




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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Boop]

Jim awarded:
"hay boop you win for the best reply grin"

Thanks Jim.  Do I win detailed directions on how to build myself
a gold star, and the scroll saw to build it with??

You should have read the message I didn't send.  Hehe

Boop



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Looking for an accessible ham radio HT

[Scott Howell]

The Yaesu VX6R is a good choice and there are several Kenwood HTS  
that would probably fit the bill. I can't recall all the good rigs  
any longer, I will have to get myself a 2 meter ht sometime.


Scott
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On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:21 PM, David Sexton wrote:

> I need a duel band HT similar to the IC-W32A. My w32a suffered  
> water damage and I'm doubtful that I can fix it. I love this radio  
> as most functions are accessible and is easy to program from the  
> computer. It seems they are discontinued yet again.
> Having just moved to the midwest it's quite important to be  
> prepared for tornados and such.
> Thanks for any advice and suggestions.
> David
> KD5ULR
>
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>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders

[Scott Howell]

I have to step in here and say I have a Grillia which in fact can  
come apart and you can get a piece that would run between the two  
sections to make a tressle. Mine at least came with a set of curved  
pieces so that when the ladder is taken apart, you fit them to the  
curved pieces that make basically two step ladders. Now they aren't  
going to be very tall, but it would do the job for walking around a  
room to paint, patch, etc.


Scott
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On Jun 6, 2007, at 12:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> thank you.
>
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote:
>
> > None of the ladders I looked at could be configured as a tressle.  
> I think
> > this would be a great feature, though.
> >
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:51 PM
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
> >
> >
> >
> > so will the Gorilla make a tressle?
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Edward Przybylek wrote:
> >
> >> I've seen three such ladders. Home Depot carries the Little  
> Giant and the
> >> Gorrilla. These two ladders are virtually identical. The third  
> ladder I
> >> saw of this type was one made by Werner. You can see the Werner  
> at Lowe's.
> >> The Werner looks a little different than the Little Giant and  
> Gorilla but
> >> it's function is the same. As I recall, the Werner extended to  
> 22 feet. I
> >> own the Gorrilla and consider it to be one of my most useful tools.
> >>
> >> Take care,
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >> _
> >>
> >> From: blindhandyman@ 
> > yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
> >  yahoogroups.com]
> >> On Behalf Of David & Patricia Ferrin
> >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:19 PM
> >> To: blindhandyman@ 
> > yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You know I think there are actually two models probably from  
> different
> >> companies. The gorilla and the little giant if memory serves.
> >> David Ferrin
> >> http://www.jaws-   
> users.com>
> > users.com
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Brice Mijares
> >> To: blindhandyman@ 
> > yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Little Giant ladders
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what the longest model they make in these type  
> ladders?
> >> Some one on this list mentioned they could be bought at home  
> depot for a
> >> third of the cost. Will this person please give us a rough idea  
> of what
> >> that cost is?
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[cheetah]

hay boop you win for the best reply grin.
jim in minnesota

gun control means hitting your target.
At 10:03 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:

>Dan wrote:
>"and thus I really don't care about the mess a shot gun
>will make of my home ... "
>
>Hey Dan,
>That's because the mess will give you a chance to use all
>those power tools to fix it up. Some people will use any excuse
>at all to drill, cut, sand, and all that fun stuff.
>So Ray, just how DO you repair bullet holes?
>
>Boop
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

[Larry Stansifer]

Michael,

You are looking at two different types of targets.

The bow and arrow can be effectively stopped with a bale of
hay, while on the otherhand combat whipped cream or high
impact souper-sonic grween beans will need something that
will dicipate the energy more quickly. Many small arms
ranges use heavy sheets of rubber to absorb the impact of
that whipped cream or green beans. In either case what you
want to prevent at any cost is ricochet. 

Regards
 
Larry Stansifer
 
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
 
Sun Tzu.


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All this talk of guns has got me wondering how to construct
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Ladder attachments

[chiliblindman]

Hello Lee.  I have a set that remains on the ladder.  However, I also have 
rubber ends that I use on another ladder.  Storing is a little more difficult 
with the legs on all the time. .bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Targets

[Boyce, Ray]

Hi Michael
 
try here
http://www.ssrsi.org/sr1/Weapon/archery.htm#Targets




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All this talk of guns has got me wondering how to construct a
durable target
for either bow or gun. Any suggestions.
Michael


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[BlindHandyMan] Targets

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[BlindHandyMan] Resource

[Larry Stansifer]

Hi Folks,
 
for those of you who choose not to defend yourselves with
high pressure whipped cream, Please do a Google search on
frangible=ammunition to get an idea of what might be
appropriate for your individual situation.
 
Peace through superior fire power
 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Jeff Kisecker]

here here!
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Enough already please folks.
David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com
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as long as the grips retain that angle, you are correct about the nature
of pointing.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, William Stephan wrote:

> My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
> shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
> did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
> deteriorated significantly.
>
> Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which
is
> something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
> ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
> true for a blind person.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of GenePoole
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>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to
the
> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of
hard
> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
> defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible
to
> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
> doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
> really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun
as
> a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
> - Original Message -
> From: clifford
> To: blindhandyman@ 
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> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
> Dear List members:
> Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock
wall
> and do damage to a person on the other side.
> I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary
to
> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to
break
> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of
double
> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
> One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
> hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
> pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I
for
> that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
> A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
> rapid fire with larger clips.
> I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is
to
> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
> One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired
fire
> arms in advance.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
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[BlindHandyMan] Making Water from thin Air

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Hi Everyone
How good is this invention, is this the answer to the Worlds water
problems.
- Two architects pursuing PhDs at the Technion-Israel Institute of
Technology have devised a low-tech way to collect dew from the air and
turn it into fresh
water. Their invention recently won an international competition seeking
to make clean, safe water available to millions around the world.

WatAir, shown here in an artistic rendering, could produce an unlimited
supply of fresh water even in remote and polluted places. (Credit: Image
courtesy
of American Technion Society)

The brainchild of Technion Architecture and Building Planning grad
students Joseph Cory and Eyal Malka, "WatAir," is an inverted pyramid
array of panels
that collects dew from the air and turns it into fresh water in almost
any climate.

Inspired by the dew-collecting properties of leaves, one 315 sq ft unit
can extract a minimum of 48 liters of fresh water from the air each day.
Depending
on the number of collectors used, an unlimited daily supply of water
could be produced even in remote and polluted places.

According to Cory, WatAir can be easily incorporated into both rural and
urban landscapes because it has a relatively small base. Its vertical
and diagonal
design utilizes gravity to increase the collection areas. The panels are
flexible and easy to collapse when not in use, and provide shelter from
rain and
heat and play areas for children.

"WatAir is a wonderfully simple concept which draws its inspiration from
nature," said competition judge Jo da Silva. "This is a simple and
effective idea
using tried and tested technology."

The project was selected from 100 entries from North America, Europe,
Africa and Asia as the winner of the "drawing water challenge" sponsored
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] guns in the home

[Larry Stansifer]

Folks...

The Wright to defend your home and family is not mitigated
or diminished by any disability. If you have a preferred
method of home defense, that you are comfortable with and
you practice with   regularly in a tactically specific
environment then please implement that method of  defense. I
happen to be a firm believer in high pressure whipped cream
at a designated range of no less than 7 Meters. Others of
you might consider 12 Gage double0 buckshot. This is
comparable to putting 9 rounds of 32-caliber slugs
down-range at one time at a velocity of 450-ft per second.
Alternatively depending on your individual situation and
your tactically defendable environment.
You might consider one of the semi-auto loaders with an
extended capacity magazine.
This information is all readily available on the web by
typing in the appropriate search terms. 

Regards
 
Larry Stansifer
 
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
 
Sun Tzu.


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With the master bedroom as the chosen saferoom, if that
perspective were 
achieved; I had a great narrowed approach to defend.
However, the bedroom 
occupied by my (extremely mechanically inclined!) daughter
is exactly at 
the T where the two approach legs meet, were I defending in
this manner. 
These are the factors that caused my disposal of a very nice
collection of 
over 20 different pieces.
45/70, M1s, Krag rifle, Edistone rifle, *artillery Luger,
1917 revolver, 
1911 auto, 30 carbine,, AR15, 03 Springfield, 1907 .45long,
Walther PK, 
Desert Eagle in .50mag, P38, Radom pistol and Rifle and
more, and so on 
and so on.
What tickles me, there was a scene in the movie Scent of a
woman, where a 
supposed Colonel, (or was it Major) went blind. He used to
time himself to 
assembl his 1911 .45 Colt. Great, 45 seconds, or 
whatever it was. I had cleaned alot of pistols by then, and
though I 
didn't like the manner of that pistol's breakdown compared
to the Radom, 
P38, Sig's, High Power (also called p38) or any of the other
and later 
Browning designs, I found I could both "break down" and
"assemble" that 
pistol in *his same time.
27 seconds for the P38 Radom or Sig.
Oh well.

  On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Lenny  McHugh wrote:

> Well Dale had a very valid point. When I was a kid I had a
small 
> collection of firearms and was fairly good with all of
them. When I 
> married Karen 33 years ago I knew that we planned on
having kids. I 
> also knew that I was losing more and more vision. I made
the decision 
> to sell all of the guns. My daughters wish  that  I would
have kept 
> some of them so they could have learned to shoot. I
mistakenly sold 
> some collectable rifles for practically nothing. A 32 cal
rim fire 
> hexagon barrel Savage with a 3 digit serial number. I sold
it  for 
> $50. Oh Well! There have been so many cases where a child
got their 
> hands on a gun in the house. A few years ago, I don't
remember exactly 
> where, a 5 year old got his father's, a police officer,
revolver and 
> shot his dad playing. I still would not mind possessing
Chet's old 
> 45/410 only because it was so unique. The only firearm
that we have in 
> the home is a conversational piece. It is an 1861 Colt 58
cal musket 
> used in the Civil War. It belonged to my late
father-in-law.  I have 
> been planning on making a display case for that musket. We
have one 
> ball from the time period that we purchased at Gettysburg.
No powder 
> or cap. I often think it would be nice if I had my old
Daisy BB rifles 
> and pellet guns for my 10 year old grandson. I had a lot
of fun with 
> them when I was 10.
>
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[BlindHandyMan] Aluminum Foil Lamps Outshine Incandescent Lights

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Hi All
- Researchers at the University of Illinois are developing panels of
microcavity plasma lamps that may soon brighten people's lives. The
thin, lightweight
panels could be used for residential and commercial lighting, and for
certain types of biomedical applications.

Photograph of an aluminum foil lamp having a radiating area of 225
square centimeters. The inset is a magnified view of several
diamond-shapes microcavities.

"Built of aluminum foil, sapphire and small amounts of gas, the panels
are less than 1 millimeter thick, and can hang on a wall like picture
frames," said
Gary Eden, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at the U.
of I., and corresponding author of a paper describing the microcavity
plasma lamps
in the June issue of the Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics.

Like conventional fluorescent lights, microcavity plasma lamps are
glow-discharges in which atoms of a gas are excited by electrons and
radiate light. Unlike
fluorescent lights, however, microcavity plasma lamps produce the plasma
in microscopic pockets and require no ballast, reflector or heavy metal
housing.
The panels are lighter, brighter and more efficient than incandescent
lights and are expected, with further engineering, to approach or
surpass the efficiency
of fluorescent lighting.

The plasma panels are also six times thinner than panels composed of
light-emitting diodes, said Eden, who also is a researcher at the
university's Coordinated
Science Laboratory and the Micro and Nanotechnology Laboratory.

A plasma panel consists of a sandwich of two sheets of aluminum foil
separated by a thin dielectric layer of clear aluminum oxide (sapphire).
At the heart
of each lamp is a small cavity, which penetrates the upper sheet of
aluminum foil and the sapphire.

"Each lamp is approximately the diameter of a human hair," said visiting
research scientist Sung-Jin Park, lead author of the paper. "We can pack
an array
of more than 250,000 lamps into a single panel."

Completing the panel assembly is a glass window 500 microns (0.5
millimeters) thick. The window's inner surface is coated with a phosphor
film 10 microns
thick, bringing the overall thickness of the lamp structure to 800
microns.

Flat panels with radiating areas of more than 200 square centimeters
have been fabricated, Park said. Depending upon the type of gas and
phosphor used,
uniform emissions of any color can be produced.

In the researchers' preliminary plasma lamp experiments, values of the
efficiency -- known as luminous efficacy -- of 15 lumens per watt were
recorded.
Values exceeding 30 lumens per watt are expected when the array design
and microcavity phosphor geometry are optimized, Eden said. A typical
incandescent
light has an efficacy of 10 to 17 lumens per watt.

The researchers also demonstrated flexible plasma arrays sealed in
polymeric packaging. These devices offer new opportunities in lighting,
in which lightweight
arrays can be mounted onto curved surfaces -- on the insides of
windshields, for example.

The flexible arrays also could be used as photo-therapeutic bandages to
treat certain diseases -- such as psoriasis -- that can be driven into
remission
by narrow-spectrum ultraviolet light, Eden said.

With Eden and Park, co-authors of the paper are graduate students Andrew
Price and Jason Readle, and undergraduate student Jekwon Yoon. Funding
was provided
by the U.S. Air Force Office of Scientific Research and the Office of
Naval Research.

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[Ray Boyce]

Hi All
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?

[Max Robinson]

Oh.  Don't forget the speakers too.

Regards.

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?


> Don.  You need to figure out how much power you need.  Think of everything
> you want to keep running. The computer obviously, the monitor, but how 
> about
> the printer?  Do you have a cable modem? You will want to keep it going
> because the cable usually stays up when the power goes out , at least it
> does here.  Do you have a network router?Don't forget it.  Look in the
> manual or on the label on the back of each thing to find the power
> consumption of everything you want to keep going and add them up.  That's
> how big a UPS you need.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>
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>
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
>
>
>>I could sure live with that.  I'll will look around at
>> these.  Don
>> --- Max Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think they are under a hundred dollars as long as
>>> you don't want to run
>>> half the house off of it.  There are big ones but
>>> they cost a lot.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>>
>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
>>> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
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>>>
>>> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an
>>> email to,
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>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
>>>
>>>
>>> > Most interesting Max.  how much will one of these
>>> U P S systems set a guy
>>> > back fore?   Don
>>> >  - Original Message - 
>>> >  From: Max Robinson
>>> >  To: Blind Handyman
>>> >  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:25 PM
>>> >  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  My what? Up to who? I don't mean United Parcel
>>> Service. In this context
>>> >  UPS stands for uninterruptible power supply. By
>>> par I don't mean Phil, I
>>> >  mean average.
>>> >
>>> >  This posting is based on my personal experience
>>> and knowledge of
>>> >  electronics. I have been using a UPS on my
>>> computer, and another one on
>>> >  Sue's computer for about 8 years.
>>> >
>>> >  What is a UPS? It's a device you can buy that
>>> will keep your computer
>>> > going
>>> >  in the event of a power failure. In most cases it
>>> will keep you running
>>> > for
>>> >  about 10 minutes which is plenty of time to save
>>> what you are working on
>>> > and
>>> >  do an orderly shutdown so no files will be
>>> damaged. A UPS will also let
>>> > you
>>> >  ignore those little power bumps that make the
>>> lights flicker but will
>>> > drive
>>> >  a computer bananas. It will also keep you going
>>> through those 5 second
>>> >  interruptions that happen sometimes when the
>>> power company is switching
>>> >  equipment.
>>> >
>>> >  How do they work? There are three basic parts to
>>> a UPS. 1. The control
>>> >  circuit. 2. The storage battery. and 3. The DC to
>>> AC converter. The
>>> >  battery is kept charged from the power line
>>> during normal operation. When
>>> >  the power fails, the control circuit switches on
>>> the DC to AC converter
>>> >  which operates off the battery and powers your
>>> computer until the mains
>>> >  power comes back on or the battery runs down. The
>>> control circuit also
>>> >  senses the condition of the battery which is what
>>> prompted this posting.
>>> >
>>> >  Sometimes your UPS will start beeping for no
>>> apparent reason. If you call
>>> >  someone with eyes they will tell you there is a
>>> yellow light glowing that
>>> >  says replace battery, or something like that.
>>> Sometimes this is a false
>>> >  alarm and sometimes it isn't. Obviously, the safe
>>> thing to do is to
>>> > replace
>>> >  the battery but they aren't cheap so you might
>>> like to know if you really
>>> >  need to replace it.
>>> >
>>> >  Here's how to test it. Save all files and close
>>> all applications but
>>> > leave
>>> >  your computer on. It won't really hurt to let the
>>> power fail as long as
>>> >  nothing is running. Unplug the UPS from the wall
>>> socket and note the
>>> > time.
>>> >  The ups will start to bee

Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Max Robinson]

Boop wrote.

So Ray, just how DO you repair bullet holes?

If it's out there to be found, Ray will find it.

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


> Dan wrote:
> "and thus I really don't care about the mess a shot gun
> will make of my home ... "
>
> Hey Dan,
> That's because the mess will give you a chance to use all
> those power tools to fix it up.  Some people will use any excuse
> at all to drill, cut, sand, and all that fun stuff.
> So Ray, just how DO you repair bullet holes?
>
> Boop
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?

[Max Robinson]

Don.  You need to figure out how much power you need.  Think of everything 
you want to keep running. The computer obviously, the monitor, but how about 
the printer?  Do you have a cable modem? You will want to keep it going 
because the cable usually stays up when the power goes out , at least it 
does here.  Do you have a network router?Don't forget it.  Look in the 
manual or on the label on the back of each thing to find the power 
consumption of everything you want to keep going and add them up.  That's 
how big a UPS you need.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?


>I could sure live with that.  I'll will look around at
> these.  Don
> --- Max Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think they are under a hundred dollars as long as
>> you don't want to run
>> half the house off of it.  There are big ones but
>> they cost a lot.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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>>
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>> email to,
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>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
>>
>>
>> > Most interesting Max.  how much will one of these
>> U P S systems set a guy
>> > back fore?   Don
>> >  - Original Message - 
>> >  From: Max Robinson
>> >  To: Blind Handyman
>> >  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:25 PM
>> >  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
>> >
>> >
>> >  My what? Up to who? I don't mean United Parcel
>> Service. In this context
>> >  UPS stands for uninterruptible power supply. By
>> par I don't mean Phil, I
>> >  mean average.
>> >
>> >  This posting is based on my personal experience
>> and knowledge of
>> >  electronics. I have been using a UPS on my
>> computer, and another one on
>> >  Sue's computer for about 8 years.
>> >
>> >  What is a UPS? It's a device you can buy that
>> will keep your computer
>> > going
>> >  in the event of a power failure. In most cases it
>> will keep you running
>> > for
>> >  about 10 minutes which is plenty of time to save
>> what you are working on
>> > and
>> >  do an orderly shutdown so no files will be
>> damaged. A UPS will also let
>> > you
>> >  ignore those little power bumps that make the
>> lights flicker but will
>> > drive
>> >  a computer bananas. It will also keep you going
>> through those 5 second
>> >  interruptions that happen sometimes when the
>> power company is switching
>> >  equipment.
>> >
>> >  How do they work? There are three basic parts to
>> a UPS. 1. The control
>> >  circuit. 2. The storage battery. and 3. The DC to
>> AC converter. The
>> >  battery is kept charged from the power line
>> during normal operation. When
>> >  the power fails, the control circuit switches on
>> the DC to AC converter
>> >  which operates off the battery and powers your
>> computer until the mains
>> >  power comes back on or the battery runs down. The
>> control circuit also
>> >  senses the condition of the battery which is what
>> prompted this posting.
>> >
>> >  Sometimes your UPS will start beeping for no
>> apparent reason. If you call
>> >  someone with eyes they will tell you there is a
>> yellow light glowing that
>> >  says replace battery, or something like that.
>> Sometimes this is a false
>> >  alarm and sometimes it isn't. Obviously, the safe
>> thing to do is to
>> > replace
>> >  the battery but they aren't cheap so you might
>> like to know if you really
>> >  need to replace it.
>> >
>> >  Here's how to test it. Save all files and close
>> all applications but
>> > leave
>> >  your computer on. It won't really hurt to let the
>> power fail as long as
>> >  nothing is running. Unplug the UPS from the wall
>> socket and note the
>> > time.
>> >  The ups will start to beep but the computer
>> should stay on. At first it
>> >  will beep every minute or so but as the battery
>> runs down the beeping
>> > will
>> >  grow more urgent. At the end of the cycle it will
>> beep continuously for a
>> >  while and then shut down. Note the time again. If
>> it keeps your computer
>> >  up for 5 minutes or more you are safe. If the
>> computer goes down almost
>> >  immediately, or after a minute or so, it is time
>> to replace the battery.
>> >
>> >  I would say it wouldn't hurt to do this exercise
>> about every 3 months
>> > even
>> >  without a warning light. The battery needs to be
>> cycled once i

Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[David & Patricia Ferrin]

Don't worry about it, all is well.
David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


I didn't see your request prior to emailing my comments; David.
The second part of my last message was regarding the assembling and 
disassembling.
Thanks

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, David & Patricia Ferrin wrote:

> Enough already please folks.
> David Ferrin
> http://www.jaws-users.com
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
>
> as long as the grips retain that angle, you are correct about the nature
> of pointing.
>
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, William Stephan wrote:
>
>> My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
>> shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
>> did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
>> deteriorated significantly.
>>
>> Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
>> something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
>> ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
>> true for a blind person.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of GenePoole
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
>> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
>> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
>> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
>> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
>> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
>> defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
>> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
>> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
>> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
>> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
>> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
>> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
>> doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
>> really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
>> a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: clifford
>> To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>>
>> Dear List members:
>> Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
>> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
>> and do damage to a person on the other side.
>> I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
>> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
>> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
>> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
>> One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
>> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
>> hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
>> pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
>> that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
>> A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
>> rapid fire with larger clips.
>> I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
>> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
>> One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
>> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
>> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
>> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
>> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
>> arms in advance.
>>
>> Yours Truly,
>>
>> Clifford Wilson
>>
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>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[spiro]

I didn't see your request prior to emailing my comments; David.
The second part of my last message was regarding the assembling and 
disassembling.
Thanks


On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, David & Patricia Ferrin wrote:

> Enough already please folks.
> David Ferrin
> http://www.jaws-users.com
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
>
> as long as the grips retain that angle, you are correct about the nature
> of pointing.
>
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, William Stephan wrote:
>
>> My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
>> shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
>> did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
>> deteriorated significantly.
>>
>> Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
>> something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
>> ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
>> true for a blind person.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of GenePoole
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
>> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
>> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
>> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
>> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
>> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
>> defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
>> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
>> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
>> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
>> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
>> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
>> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
>> doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
>> really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
>> a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: clifford
>> To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>>
>> Dear List members:
>> Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
>> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
>> and do damage to a person on the other side.
>> I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
>> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
>> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
>> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
>> One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
>> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
>> hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
>> pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
>> that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
>> A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
>> rapid fire with larger clips.
>> I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
>> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
>> One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
>> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
>> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
>> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
>> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
>> arms in advance.
>>
>> Yours Truly,
>>
>> Clifford Wilson
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns in the home

[spiro]

With the master bedroom as the chosen saferoom, if that perspective were 
achieved; I had a great narrowed approach to defend. However, the bedroom 
occupied by my (extremely mechanically inclined!) daughter is exactly at 
the T where the two approach legs meet, were I defending in this manner. 
These are the factors that caused my disposal of a very nice collection of 
over 20 different pieces.
45/70, M1s, Krag rifle, Edistone rifle, *artillery Luger, 1917 revolver, 
1911 auto, 30 carbine,, AR15, 03 Springfield, 1907 .45long, Walther PK, 
Desert Eagle in .50mag, P38, Radom pistol and Rifle and more, and so on 
and so on.
What tickles me, there was a scene in the movie Scent of a woman, where a 
supposed Colonel, (or was it Major) went blind. He used to time himself to 
assembl his 1911 .45 Colt. Great, 45 seconds, or 
whatever it was. I had cleaned alot of pistols by then, and though I 
didn't like the manner of that pistol's breakdown compared to the Radom, 
P38, Sig's, High Power (also called p38) or any of the other and later 
Browning designs, I found I could both "break down" and "assemble" that 
pistol in *his same time.
27 seconds for the P38 Radom or Sig.
Oh well.

  On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Lenny  McHugh wrote:

> Well Dale had a very valid point. When I was a kid I had a small collection 
> of firearms and was fairly good with all of them. When I married Karen 33 
> years ago I knew that we planned on having kids. I also knew that I was 
> losing more and more vision. I made the decision to sell all of the guns. My 
> daughters wish  that  I would  have kept some of them so they could have 
> learned to shoot.
> I mistakenly sold some collectable rifles for practically nothing. A 32 cal 
> rim fire hexagon barrel Savage with a 3 digit serial number. I sold it  for 
> $50. Oh Well!
> There have been so many cases where a child got their hands on a gun in the 
> house. A few years ago, I don't remember exactly where, a 5 year old got his 
> father's, a police officer, revolver and shot his dad playing.
> I still would not mind possessing Chet's old 45/410 only because it was so 
> unique. The only firearm that we have in the home is a conversational piece. 
> It is an 1861 Colt 58 cal musket used in the Civil War. It belonged to my 
> late father-in-law.  I have been planning on making a display case for that 
> musket. We have one ball from the time period that we purchased at 
> Gettysburg. No powder or cap.
> I often think it would be nice if I had my old Daisy BB rifles and pellet 
> guns for my 10 year old grandson. I had a lot of fun with them when I was 10.
>
> Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[David & Patricia Ferrin]

Enough already please folks. 
David Ferrin
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


as long as the grips retain that angle, you are correct about the nature 
of pointing.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, William Stephan wrote:

> My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
> shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
> did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
> deteriorated significantly.
>
> Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
> something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
> ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
> true for a blind person.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of GenePoole
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
> defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
> doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
> really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
> a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
> - Original Message -
> From: clifford
> To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
> Dear List members:
> Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
> and do damage to a person on the other side.
> I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
> One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
> hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
> pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
> that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
> A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
> rapid fire with larger clips.
> I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
> One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
> arms in advance.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[Dale Leavens]

Here here! I wear my Blind Rifle Association cap and tee shirt with pride 
because of the absurdity. But then I don't really get the point of flying an 
ultralight aeroplane taking direction from a GPS and someone calling out over 
my shoulder.

As a blind person I can understand the insecurity and vulnerability of being 
confronted by someone or something you cannot see or evaluate and how a weapon 
might help one feel less vulnerable but it seems to me that insecurity would 
also be a formula for disaster.

If some crackhead wants my television that badly I'd sooner help him load it 
into his car! There isn't usually anything on there I want to see anyway.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Fowle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment


  I won't get into arguments over it, but I strongly object to extended
  discussions of guns on this list.

  I suppose if somebody wanted to discuss repair techniques
  for blind folks, it might be acceptable, but general discussion of
  your favorite way to kill an innocent person you didn't recognize by 
  sound is out of bounds and will drive me away fast.

  I will have nothing further to say on the subject.

  Tom Fowle



   

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[spiro]

as long as the grips retain that angle, you are correct about the nature 
of pointing.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, William Stephan wrote:

> My experience was completely different regarding accuracy.  The best
> shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel.  I
> did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
> deteriorated significantly.
>
> Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
> something we all can do.  And, most of the time, you're going to be within
> ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
> true for a blind person.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of GenePoole
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
> defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
> doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
> really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
> a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
> - Original Message -
> From: clifford
> To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
> Dear List members:
> Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
> and do damage to a person on the other side.
> I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
> One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
> hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
> pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
> that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
> A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
> rapid fire with larger clips.
> I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
> One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
> arms in advance.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[spiro]

here we go...
anything over .32 will depress the hearing.
Any hand gun not (body sized accurate) at 25 feet should be returned to 
Kmart.
a .44 is bigger than both .40 and .45 as the shell is either mag or equal 
to "long" thus is 3 steps higher than 9MM (more if the FBI's 10MM still 
existed)
and there are semi-auto shotguns to reduce loading.
The rest of this is gonna get tedious, fast I bet.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, GenePoole wrote:

> I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like, 
> say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the 
> fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get 
> something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard 
> to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like 
> smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better 
> defense weapon than a shot gun, for  the  following reasons. One, loading 
> time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back 
> together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30 
> seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two, 
> maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to 
> get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of 
> certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be 
> doing a lot of collateral, and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are really 
> awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as a 
> perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
>  - Original Message -
>  From: clifford
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home
>
>
>  Dear List members:
>  Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no 
> mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall 
> and do damage to a person on the other side.
>  I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to 
> keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break 
> in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double 
> ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
>  One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast. 
> With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not hear 
> to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic pistol 
> and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for that 
> reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
>  A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve 
> rapid fire with larger clips.
>  I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to 
> allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
>  One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future, 
> and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home 
> intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more 
> brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it 
> doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire 
> arms in advance.
>
>  Yours Truly,
>
>  Clifford Wilson
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[David & Patricia Ferrin]

Interestingly enough that is what I was trying to convey in my earlier post. So 
enough talk about the best way of shooting people ETC. Unless it's broken 
there's no need to discuss guns on here at all.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Tom Fowle 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment


I won't get into arguments over it, but I strongly object to extended
discussions of guns on this list.

I suppose if somebody wanted to discuss repair techniques
for blind folks, it might be acceptable, but general discussion of
your favorite way to kill an innocent person you didn't recognize by 
sound is out of bounds and will drive me away fast.

I will have nothing further to say on the subject.

Tom Fowle



 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[Tom Fowle]

I won't get into arguments over it, but I strongly object to extended
discussions of guns on this list.

I suppose if somebody wanted to discuss repair techniques
for blind folks, it might be acceptable, but general discussion of
your favorite way to kill  an innocent person you didn't recognize by 
sound is out of bounds and will drive me away fast.

I will have nothing further to say on the subject.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[Larry Stansifer]

Better the NRA then the anti-gunners.

Regards
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Lee A. Stone]

Gene, I'll have to go with Clifford on this one. If I was a sighted 
person staring  down the barrel of a shotgun  I would want some toilet 
paper close by. the other good thing, in my opinion, about a shot gun 
single or double barrel  is  is it will spray a pattern  where the 
pistol   even though more accurate in some ways may take several shots 
to hit your target.   I used a shotgun not that long ago at a party 
which got out of control. by removing several  sections of the ceiling I 
did in fact have  the attention of whoever was still left on the 
property. .  One other  option  about a shotgun is nobody is going to 
sneak away with your shotgun  but they might hide your pistol in a 
pocket or jacket pocket.. I've never cleaned a  pistol. auto or 
otherwise but the ease of cleaning a shotgun is  very blind friendly. 
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[BlindHandyMan] Ladder attachments

[Lee A. Stone]

Do any of you own or use ladder attachments that would allow the ladder 
to lean on the  roof and not against the siding? and do you leave these 
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[BlindHandyMan] guns

[GenePoole]

Wellfolks, I guess it's like computers. SOme of us prefer macs, some of us 
prefer intel based, some of us before AMD based. I like pistols and rifles and 
smg's, yall like shotguns. All have their merits. Happy shooting!

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Understanding the Mechanics Behind a Hay Baler

[Lee A. Stone]

Before haybalers Geno and I had a grandfather who used horses  on his 
farm. all hay was forked onto a hay wagon and then that wagon was backed 
up to the barn where a large  horse shoe shapped  fork was dropped 
quickly  by rope into the center of that hay wagon and  with horses 
pulling the fork back up eventually that hay made it inside the barns. 
as the kids would say" back in the day" I know someone who makes those 
big  round bales and those bales are so heavy  no human hands can move 
them like  the original square or rectangular  bales. . Lots of fun on a 
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[BlindHandyMan] Looking for an accessible ham radio HT

[David Sexton]

I need a duel band HT similar to the IC-W32A. My w32a suffered water damage and 
I'm doubtful that I can fix it. I love this radio as most functions are 
accessible and is easy to program from the computer. It seems they are 
discontinued yet again.
Having just moved to the midwest it's quite important to be prepared for 
tornados and such.
Thanks for any advice and suggestions.
David
KD5ULR


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[cliffwilson]

Dear Gene:
All shotguns are not the same.  The pump  and automatic shotguns load by 
sliding the shells in a tube at the bottom and putting one in the chamber 
requires no more time than pulling the slide on a Glock  or Colt automatic.  I 
do agree that smaller guns are more maneuverable than the large variety, but 
when the stock is replaced with a pistol grip,  it becomes much easier to 
handle in close quarters.  

While I don't enjoy the noise made by a 38 revolver, I have a friend who is 
a deputy sheriff  who has a few miles on her odometer , like this hillbilly, 
and due to arthritis, she has difficulty operating the slide on automatic 
pistols, so she carries a revolver, with which she qualifies as expert, as the 
effort required to fire that weapon is less and within her physical 
capabilities.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson.

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  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


  I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like, 
say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the 
fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get 
something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard to 
get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like smashing 
a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better defense weapon 
than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading time. You have to 
break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back together, aim, then 
fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30 seconds, even a minute if 
you don't know what you're doing. Two, maneuvreability. Also contrary to 
popular belief, it's almost impossible to get a good shot off from the hip and 
hit somebody with any degree of certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in 
the movies. You'll also be doing a lot of collateral, and unnecessary, damage. 
Yes, shotguns are really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. 
Use a shot gun as a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
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  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  Dear List members:
  Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no 
mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall and 
do damage to a person on the other side. 
  I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to 
keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break in 
to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double ought 
buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area. 
  One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast. 
With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not hear 
to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic pistol and 
a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for that reason 
prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
  A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve 
rapid fire with larger clips. 
  I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to 
allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
  One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future, and 
to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home 
intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more 
brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it doubles 
or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire arms in 
advance.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Heating and Air Conditioning Question

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Folks,

Sorry for being so late with this, but business has kept me away from 
sending this reply to everyone's help.

I would like to thank everyone that responded to my message about the fan 
and whether I should keep it on all the time, as opposed to keeping it on 
auto.

At this point, I haven't run it long enough to determine whether the cost 
savings is sufficient to warrant keeping it on all the time, but 
environmentally, it has kept the house a constant temperature.

I can now go from level to level in my home, without too much of a notice in 
temperature change.  I guess I'll just have to keep it going for a long 
enough time to figure out whether the billing amount is drastic enough to 
keep it going or not.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Boop]

Dan wrote:
"and thus I really don't care about the mess a shot gun
will make of my home ... "

Hey Dan,
That's because the mess will give you a chance to use all
those power tools to fix it up.  Some people will use any excuse
at all to drill, cut, sand, and all that fun stuff.
So Ray, just how DO you repair bullet holes?

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[Donnie Parrett]

David said:
Just please remember guys we don't want the NRA to invade our little group.

Donnie says:
Nor the B R A either!!!

Contact me at:
Donnie Parrett
1956 Asa Flat Road
Annville, KY  40402
Home #  606-364-3321
Cell #  606-438-2557
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Just please remember guys we don't want the NRA to invade our little group.
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[BlindHandyMan] guns in the home

[Lenny McHugh]

Well Dale had a very valid point. When I was a kid I had a small collection of 
firearms and was fairly good with all of them. When I married Karen 33 years 
ago I knew that we planned on having kids. I also knew that I was losing more 
and more vision. I made the decision to sell all of the guns. My daughters wish 
 that  I would  have kept some of them so they could have learned to shoot.
I mistakenly sold some collectable rifles for practically nothing. A 32 cal rim 
fire hexagon barrel Savage with a 3 digit serial number. I sold it  for $50. Oh 
Well!
There have been so many cases where a child got their hands on a gun in the 
house. A few years ago, I don't remember exactly where, a 5 year old got his 
father's, a police officer, revolver and shot his dad playing.
I still would not mind possessing Chet's old 45/410 only because it was so 
unique. The only firearm that we have in the home is a conversational piece. It 
is an 1861 Colt 58 cal musket used in the Civil War. It belonged to my late 
father-in-law.  I have been planning on making a display case for that musket. 
We have one ball from the time period that we purchased at Gettysburg. No 
powder or cap.
I often think it would be nice if I had my old Daisy BB rifles and pellet guns 
for my 10 year old grandson. I had a lot of fun with them when I was 10.

Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?

[Don]

I could sure live with that.  I'll will look around at
these.  Don
--- Max Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think they are under a hundred dollars as long as
> you don't want to run 
> half the house off of it.  There are big ones but
> they cost a lot.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
> 
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> 
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> 
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> email to,
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
> 
> 
> > Most interesting Max.  how much will one of these
> U P S systems set a guy 
> > back fore?   Don
> >  - Original Message - 
> >  From: Max Robinson
> >  To: Blind Handyman
> >  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:25 PM
> >  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Is your UPS up to par?
> >
> >
> >  My what? Up to who? I don't mean United Parcel
> Service. In this context
> >  UPS stands for uninterruptible power supply. By
> par I don't mean Phil, I
> >  mean average.
> >
> >  This posting is based on my personal experience
> and knowledge of
> >  electronics. I have been using a UPS on my
> computer, and another one on
> >  Sue's computer for about 8 years.
> >
> >  What is a UPS? It's a device you can buy that
> will keep your computer 
> > going
> >  in the event of a power failure. In most cases it
> will keep you running 
> > for
> >  about 10 minutes which is plenty of time to save
> what you are working on 
> > and
> >  do an orderly shutdown so no files will be
> damaged. A UPS will also let 
> > you
> >  ignore those little power bumps that make the
> lights flicker but will 
> > drive
> >  a computer bananas. It will also keep you going
> through those 5 second
> >  interruptions that happen sometimes when the
> power company is switching
> >  equipment.
> >
> >  How do they work? There are three basic parts to
> a UPS. 1. The control
> >  circuit. 2. The storage battery. and 3. The DC to
> AC converter. The
> >  battery is kept charged from the power line
> during normal operation. When
> >  the power fails, the control circuit switches on
> the DC to AC converter
> >  which operates off the battery and powers your
> computer until the mains
> >  power comes back on or the battery runs down. The
> control circuit also
> >  senses the condition of the battery which is what
> prompted this posting.
> >
> >  Sometimes your UPS will start beeping for no
> apparent reason. If you call
> >  someone with eyes they will tell you there is a
> yellow light glowing that
> >  says replace battery, or something like that.
> Sometimes this is a false
> >  alarm and sometimes it isn't. Obviously, the safe
> thing to do is to 
> > replace
> >  the battery but they aren't cheap so you might
> like to know if you really
> >  need to replace it.
> >
> >  Here's how to test it. Save all files and close
> all applications but 
> > leave
> >  your computer on. It won't really hurt to let the
> power fail as long as
> >  nothing is running. Unplug the UPS from the wall
> socket and note the 
> > time.
> >  The ups will start to beep but the computer
> should stay on. At first it
> >  will beep every minute or so but as the battery
> runs down the beeping 
> > will
> >  grow more urgent. At the end of the cycle it will
> beep continuously for a
> >  while and then shut down. Note the time again. If
> it keeps your computer
> >  up for 5 minutes or more you are safe. If the
> computer goes down almost
> >  immediately, or after a minute or so, it is time
> to replace the battery.
> >
> >  I would say it wouldn't hurt to do this exercise
> about every 3 months 
> > even
> >  without a warning light. The battery needs to be
> cycled once in a while 
> > to
> >  keep its chemistry in good shape.
> >
> >  Replacing the battery. The battery in a UPS has a
> limited life and it was
> >  meant to be replaced. The manufacturers have made
> it easy for that 
> > reason.
> >  Unplug the UPS and make sure it is turned off.
> Somewhere on the back or
> >  bottom you will find a trap door. It may require
> a screwdriver to open 
> > but
> >  usually it just pops open. The battery is
> equipped with push on 
> > terminals.
> >  Pull the wires off of the old battery. Take the
> old one to a store that
> >  sells office supplies, computer supplies or
> batteries. They will sell you
> >  the proper replacement and take the old one for
> safe recycling. The new
> >  battery will have safety covers over the
> terminals. Remove them before
> >  attempting to connect the wires from the UPS.
> Some UPSs are designed so 
> > you
> >  can't put the connectors on wrong, the positive
> wire will not fit on the
> >  negative battery connector. Some don't. Sighted
> assistance is
> >  recommended here. It's not rocket science. T

Re: 45/410 Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Rob Monitor]

Hi, Well here in Minnesota you have to get a hand gun permit to carry a hand 
gun. Well I'm thinking of going and seeing about getting a permit to carry 
wondering how much krap they will give me  for being blind...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:30 AM
  Subject: 45/410 Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


  An old friend had an interesting piece for home protection. It is a small 
  hand gun that takes either a 45 cal or a 410 shotgun shell. It has about a 
  4" barrel It had a leathal range of about 15 feet. It was a great point and 
  shoot weapon. Since he passed away I wonder where it ended up.
  He had an awsum gun collection but that was his favorite piece for home 
  protection. He kept it ready to go in his bedroom night stand. Downstairs 
  was his 357 also ready to go.
  Chet was sighted but often stated that I would have no problem using that 
  45/410 in the home. He also had it where his wife could quickly access since 
  as he said it was a point and shoot weapon. That was the only time I saw 
  such a gun.
  Lenny

  - Original Message - 
  From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:43 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
  shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
  did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
  deteriorated significantly.

  Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
  something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
  ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
  true for a blind person.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of GenePoole
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
  say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
  fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
  something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
  to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
  smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
  defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
  time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
  together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
  seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
  maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
  get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
  certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
  doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
  really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
  a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford
  To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  Dear List members:
  Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
  mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
  and do damage to a person on the other side.
  I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
  keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
  in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
  ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
  One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
  With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
  hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
  pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
  that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
  A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
  rapid fire with larger clips.
  I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
  allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
  One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
  and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
  intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
  brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
  doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
  arms in 

[BlindHandyMan] guns and armerment

[David & Patricia Ferrin]

Just please remember guys we don't want the NRA to invade our little group.
David Ferrin
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Dan Rossi]

I've seen a rather nice little home defense shot gun.  You could keep one 
shell in the barrel and six in a clip.  It had a vertical pistol grip on 
the barrel which made it exceedingly easy to pump and load the next shell, 
less than a second.

Also, if someone is breaking into my home, I can only assume it is with 
intent to do harm to me or my family, and thus I really don't care about 
the mess a shot gun will make of my home, as long as it makes a mess of 
the guy I am shooting at.  I would much more prefer the scatter of a shot 
gun blast to a single bullet at a time.

-- 
Blue skies.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Dale Leavens]

And if it turns out to be the wife you depend on or one of your kids or your 
guide dog which you either misidentify or which accidentally or otherwise gets 
in the way? Accuracy will really count!


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  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:43 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


  My experience was completely different regarding accuracy. The best
  shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel. I
  did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
  deteriorated significantly.

  Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
  something we all can do. And, most of the time, you're going to be within
  ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
  true for a blind person.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of GenePoole
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
  say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
  fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
  something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
  to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
  smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
  defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
  time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
  together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
  seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
  maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
  get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
  certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
  doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
  really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
  a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford 
  To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

  Dear List members:
  Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
  mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
  and do damage to a person on the other side. 
  I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
  keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
  in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
  ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area. 
  One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
  With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
  hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
  pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
  that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
  A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
  rapid fire with larger clips. 
  I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
  allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
  One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
  and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
  intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
  brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
  doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
  arms in advance.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson

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45/410 Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[Lenny McHugh]

An old  friend had an interesting piece for home protection. It is a small 
hand gun that takes either a 45 cal or a 410 shotgun shell. It has about a 
4" barrel It had a leathal range of about 15 feet. It was a great point and 
shoot weapon. Since he passed away I wonder where it ended up.
He had an awsum gun collection but that was his favorite piece for home 
protection. He kept   it ready to go in his bedroom night stand. Downstairs 
was his 357 also ready to go.
Chet was sighted but often stated that I would have no problem using that 
45/410 in the home. He also had it where his wife could quickly access since 
as he said it was a point and shoot weapon. That was the only time I saw 
such a gun.
Lenny

- Original Message - 
From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home


My experience was completely different regarding accuracy.  The best
shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel.  I
did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
deteriorated significantly.

Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
something we all can do.  And, most of the time, you're going to be within
ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
true for a blind person.





-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of GenePoole
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home



I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
- Original Message - 
From: clifford
To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

Dear List members:
Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
and do damage to a person on the other side.
I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area.
One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
rapid fire with larger clips.
I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
arms in advance.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[chiliblindman]

They really do make some nice pump and semi-auto fire shotguns with clips.  The 
only draw back is if you miss your target you have to clean up a lot of s**t, 
and probably repair your home. ..bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

[William Stephan]

My experience was completely different regarding accuracy.  The best
shooting I ever did was with a little .38 Smith with a two inch barrel.  I
did sraw-point-and-shoot, and when I actually tried to aim, my results
deteriorated significantly.

Presumably, this is because a short barrel mimics finger pointing, which is
something we all can do.  And, most of the time, you're going to be within
ten feet of whoever you're shooting at, this is particularly and hopefully
true for a blind person.

 

 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of GenePoole
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:08 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

 

I'm not sure if this point was made, however, a small semi automatic like,
say, a .38, is not very accurate beyond a range of around 10 feet due to the
fact that most of them have real short barrels. Your best bet is to get
something like a 9mm glock or a .44, though the latter ones are kind of hard
to get hold of. Shot guns are not good in home defense weapons. It's like
smashing a butterfly with a hammer. A good 9mm pistol is a much better
defense weapon than a shot gun, for the following reasons. One, loading
time. You have to break open the shot gun, put in the shells, put it back
together, aim, then fire. A process which takes anywhere from 15 to 30
seconds, even a minute if you don't know what you're doing. Two,
maneuvreability. Also contrary to popular belief, it's almost impossible to
get a good shot off from the hip and hit somebody with any degree of
certainty. That kind of shot only looks good in the movies. You'll also be
doing a lot of collateral , and unnecessary, damage. Yes, shotguns are
really awesome weapons. But they don't belong in the home. Use a shot gun as
a perimeter defense, not a close range weapon.
- Original Message - 
From: clifford 
To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] shotguns in the home

Dear List members:
Shotguns are among the deadliest of weapons at close range, and make no
mistake, a twelve gage with any type of shot will take out a sheetrock wall
and do damage to a person on the other side. 
I live 20 miles from the sheriff's office and I feel that it is necessary to
keep a firearm around for home defense, in case some person decides to break
in to our home at night. I am not a marksman, but with seven shots of double
ought buck shot, I can be assured of covering a rather large area. 
One problem which I have found with revolvers is the noise from the blast.
With a short barreled revolver, the crack hurts my ears, and I could not
hear to tell what is taking place after the first shot. With an automatic
pistol and a similar length barrel, the noise is a good deal less and I for
that reason prefer the Simi-automatic pistols.
A Simi-automatic 22 rifle is also a fairly quiet gun, and they can achieve
rapid fire with larger clips. 
I truly hope to never fire a weapon against anyone, but if the choice is to
allow someone to break in or to shoot them, then they are toast.
One of the difficulties which we face is trying to anticipate the future,
and to what extent we will all find it necessary to defend our homes. Home
intrusions are becoming more common, and the meth heads are becoming more
brazen. Hopefully, this is a spike in that type of activity, but if it
doubles or triples in the next decade, I will be glad that we acquired fire
arms in advance.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson

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