Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yes, Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?

[Dan Rossi]

I'm with Max.  It doesn't appear that this is consistently repeatable. 
And, lest anyone thinks this will save them money, thinking that since hot 
water freezes faster than cold, and thus you start making all your ice 
cubes with hot water, that is absolutely untrue.  That would definitely be 
in violation of conservation of energy, not to mention that you would be 
heating the water first, then cooling it down, so you would be doubly 
wasting energy.

  -- 
Blue skies.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yes, Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?

[Max Robinson]

Bullshit.  If anybody on this list can make hot water freeze faster than 
cold water I'll eat my words.  But you had better be able to do it any time 
you want and not just have it happen once out of many trials.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "handyman-blind" 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:35 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Yes, Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?


> The link to the information is at the bottom:
>
>
>
> Written Nov, 1998 by Monwhea Jeng (Momo),
> Department of Physics, University of California
>
>
>
>
> Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?
>
>  Yes -- a general explanation
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/PhysFAQ/General/hot_water.html
>
>
> 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Max Robinson]

I agree completely with that.  I also heard it sometime in the 60s.  And if 
anyone is wondering, a couple of winters ago I tried the experiment with two 
buckets of water set out on the porch.  The cold one froze first as physics 
would tell you.

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- Original Message - 
From: "William Stephan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig


> Max:  I don't doubt it, but it's an urban legend from before anybody ever
> heard the term "Urban Legend".  I remember the first time I heard it and I
> heard it from a rather odd uncle of mine, probably back in the late 1960s.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Max Robinson
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 19:09
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
>
>
>
>
> It's an urban legend.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Stephan"   >
> To:  
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
>> I've heard this throy that hot water freezes faster than cold, but never
>> tried or understood it completely. I know that many people use
>> submersible
>> electric heaters to keep stock tanks and the like from freezing, so
>> according to this theory if I understand it, that must be a mighty
>> energy-intensive thing to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  ]
>> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 18:22
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>> 
>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something 
>> about
>> the moving molicules. It was explained a long time ago, too far back for
>> my
>> short memory.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Cy Selfridge"  
>>  >
>> To:  
>> 
>>>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>>
>> Lennie,
>>
>> Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)
>>
>> Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from
>> it
>> and still have water?
>>
>> Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi
>>
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> 
>> 
>> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> 
>>  ]
>> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>> 
> 
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>>
>> I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold
>> drink,
>>
>> surprise, surprise, surprise
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Cy Selfridge"  
>> 
>>  >
>> To:  
>> 
>> 
>>>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank
>> had
>> less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
>> tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove
>> or
>> help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.
>>
>> I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Dale Leavens]

They used to use hot water to resurface skating ice surfaces however I believe 
part of the reason is to flow the new surface smooth to the old one. They may 
still do so.


  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig



  Max: I don't doubt it, but it's an urban legend from before anybody ever
  heard the term "Urban Legend". I remember the first time I heard it and I
  heard it from a rather odd uncle of mine, probably back in the late 1960s.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Max Robinson
  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 19:09
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

  It's an urban legend.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "William Stephan" mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.net> >
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
  >
  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

  > I've heard this throy that hot water freezes faster than cold, but never
  > tried or understood it completely. I know that many people use 
  > submersible
  > electric heaters to keep stock tanks and the like from freezing, so
  > according to this theory if I understand it, that must be a mighty
  > energy-intensive thing to do.
  >
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  
  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   ]
  > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 18:22
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something about
  > the moving molicules. It was explained a long time ago, too far back for 
  > my
  > short memory.
  >
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> 
  >  >
  > To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > 
  >>
  > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
  > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
  >
  > Lennie,
  >
  > Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)
  >
  > Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from 
  > it
  > and still have water?
  >
  > Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi
  >
  > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   
  > 
  > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   
  >  ]
  > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
  >
  > I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold 
  > drink,
  >
  > surprise, surprise, surprise
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> 
  > 
  >  >
  > To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > 
  > 
  >>
  > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
  >
  > Hi,
  >
  > Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank 
  > had
  > less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
  > tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove 
  > or
  > help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.
  >
  > I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the 
  > hot
  > water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
  > *HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
  > the comfortable temp in a shower.
  >
  > Cy, the Anasazi
  >
  > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   
  > 
  > 

[BlindHandyMan] Yes, Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?

[Lenny McHugh]

The link to the information is at the bottom:



Written Nov, 1998 by Monwhea Jeng (Momo),
Department of Physics, University of California




Can hot water freeze faster than cold water?

  Yes -- a general explanation
http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/PhysFAQ/General/hot_water.html




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RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[William Stephan]

Max:  I don't doubt it, but it's an urban legend from before anybody ever
heard the term "Urban Legend".  I remember the first time I heard it and I
heard it from a rather odd uncle of mine, probably back in the late 1960s.

 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Max Robinson
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 19:09
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

 

  

It's an urban legend.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "William Stephan" mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

> I've heard this throy that hot water freezes faster than cold, but never
> tried or understood it completely. I know that many people use 
> submersible
> electric heaters to keep stock tanks and the like from freezing, so
> according to this theory if I understand it, that must be a mighty
> energy-intensive thing to do.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 18:22
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
>
>
>
>
> I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something about
> the moving molicules. It was explained a long time ago, too far back for 
> my
> short memory.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> 
>  >
> To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> 
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> Lennie,
>
> Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)
>
> Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from 
> it
> and still have water?
>
> Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 
>  ]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold 
> drink,
>
> surprise, surprise, surprise
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> 
> 
>  >
> To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> 
> 
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> Hi,
>
> Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank 
> had
> less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
> tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove 
> or
> help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.
>
> I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the 
> hot
> water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
> *HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
> the comfortable temp in a shower.
>
> Cy, the Anasazi
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  
> 
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 
> 
>  ]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> 
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes
>
> definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
> refrigerator that has water and ice. A

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Max Robinson]

It's an urban legend.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "William Stephan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig


> I've heard this throy that hot water freezes faster than cold, but never
> tried or understood it completely.  I know that many people use 
> submersible
> electric heaters to keep stock tanks and the like from freezing, so
> according to this theory if I understand it, that must be a mighty
> energy-intensive thing to do.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 18:22
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
>
>
>
>
> I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something about
> the moving molicules. It was explained a long time ago, too far back for 
> my
> short memory.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cy Selfridge"   >
> To:  
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> Lennie,
>
> Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)
>
> Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from 
> it
> and still have water?
>
> Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  ]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold 
> drink,
>
> surprise, surprise, surprise
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cy Selfridge"  
>  >
> To:  
> 
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig
>
> Hi,
>
> Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank 
> had
> less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
> tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove 
> or
> help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.
>
> I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the 
> hot
> water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
> *HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
> the comfortable temp in a shower.
>
> Cy, the Anasazi
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> 
>  ]
> On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes
>
> definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
> refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered
> that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was 
> he
>
> went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted
> another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis
> area or I would have done it for him.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net>
> 
>  >
> To:  
> 
> 
>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes
>
> Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
> if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
> fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
> full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
> the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
> the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
> contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
> just show up. I'll use something else first. just ra

RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[William Stephan]

I've heard this throy that hot water freezes faster than cold, but never
tried or understood it completely.  I know that many people use submersible
electric heaters to keep stock tanks and the like from freezing, so
according to this theory if I understand it, that must be a mighty
energy-intensive thing to do.  

 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 18:22
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

 

  

I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something about 
the moving molicules. It was explained a long time ago, too far back for my 
short memory.

- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

Lennie,

Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)

Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from it
and still have water?

Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold drink,

surprise, surprise, surprise
- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> 
 >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

Hi,

Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank had
less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove or
help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.

I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the hot
water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
*HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
the comfortable temp in a shower.

Cy, the Anasazi

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 
 ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he

went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted
another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net>

 >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>


>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Lenny McHugh]

I ment that it will freeze faster. I believe that there is something about 
the moving molicules. It was explained  a long time ago, too far back for my 
short memory.

- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig


Lennie,

Well, you can't have everything. (LOL)

Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from it
and still have water?

Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig





I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold drink,

surprise, surprise, surprise
- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

Hi,

Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank had
less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove or
help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.

I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the hot
water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
*HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
the comfortable temp in a shower.

Cy, the Anasazi

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he

went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted
another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net>
 >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
>

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Cy Selfridge]

Lennie,

Well, you can't have everything. (LOL) 

Now, think of this, water is H2O so how could you remove any oxygen from it
and still have water?

Cy, The The (confused) Anasazi

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

 

  

I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold drink,

surprise, surprise, surprise
- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

Hi,

Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank had
less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove or
help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.

I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the hot
water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
*HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
the comfortable temp in a shower.

Cy, the Anasazi

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he

went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted
another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net>
 >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>

>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
>

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Lenny McHugh]

I believe that is true for making ice but when you expect a very cold drink, 
surprise, surprise, surprise
- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:25 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig


Hi,

Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank had
less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove or
help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.

I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the hot
water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
*HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
the comfortable temp in a shower.

Cy, the Anasazi



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes





definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new
refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he

went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted
another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
>

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Cy Selfridge]

Lee,

My side by side is a Whirlpool from Sears and it has that blamed bail which,
occasionally, gets stuck in the "up" position and no one notices until there
is no ice coming forth. (LOL)

I also want to complain bitterly about how hard that bail is to reach. I
have fixed the little top tray affair on the ice maker's hopper so that I
can just raise it up and reach the blasted bail.

Cy 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:08 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

 

  


Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that 
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray 
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is 
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out 
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary 
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we 
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to 
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On 
Sun, 
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I 
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice 
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they 
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back 
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
> 
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
> 

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[BlindHandyMan] hot water to frig

[Cy Selfridge]

Hi,

Interestingly there was a theory that the water from the hot water tank had
less oxygen thus is would freeze faster than cold water from the regular
tap. Also, it was thought that the act of heating the water would remove or
help kill bacteria which may or may not be in the city water.

I will tell you one thing, you do *NOT* want to put your hands under the hot
water in our house after it has run long enough to warm up the pipe. It is
*HOT*. I actually like it that way as it takes a lot less hot water to get
the comfortable temp in a shower.

Cy, the Anasazi

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:34 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

 

  

definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new 
refrigerator that has water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered 
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he

went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted 
another $120 to come out and correct the problem. That was in the Memphis 
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee

On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
>

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

If you have to get someone in to look at it, try 
someone besides the Sears repair guys, like a 
maytag repair person. Probably be cheaper.
Betsy
At 11:08 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down that
>if it is not touching ice cubes in the bucket then the ice cube tray
>fills with water and later dumps until the same said ice bucket is
>full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
>the warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
>the prices if you get a " go green" new machine. . . so now we
>contact Sears as she wants a real repairman which will cost $120.00 to
>just show up. I'll use something else first. just ranting. Lee
>
>On
>Sun,
>Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> > Aloha Lee,
> > Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> > seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> > maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> > installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> > on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> > Things to consider, Betsy
> >
> > At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> > >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> > >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> > >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> > >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> > >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> > >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> > >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> > >
> > >--
> > >Charlie was a chemist,
> > >But Charlie is no more.
> > >For what he thought was H2O,
> > >Was H2SO4.
> > >
> >
>
>--
>Charlie was a chemist,
>But Charlie is no more.
>For what he thought was H2O,
>Was H2SO4.
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Lenny McHugh]

definitely do something else. They charged a friend $150 to hook up a new 
refrigerator that has  water and ice. A bout a month later he discovered 
that they hooked it into the hot water line. The only way he found it was he 
went to get a drink while the dish washer was running. Anyway they wanted 
another $120 to come out and correct the problem.  That was in the Memphis 
area or I would have done it for him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes



Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down  that
if it is not touching ice cubes in the  bucket then the ice cube tray
fills  with water and later dumps  until the same said ice bucket is
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out
the  warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary
the prices if you get a " go green"  new machine.  . . so  now we
contact Sears as  she wants a real repairman  which will cost $120.00 to
just show up.  I'll use  something else first.  just ranting. Lee


 On
Sun,
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
>
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
>

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Lee A. Stone]

I just sent this checklist to the one who is , well non supportive   
of  whatever. yes we get cold water from the  spicket   in front and 
it has the auto select for ice cubes, crushed ice and so on. only one  
tube feeds the  machine from down  in the basement but will have them 
check  oh forgot, yes it says with the new filter to purge it  by 
tapping out  I think 2 galons of water?  to activate   the filter.so 
give me  21 hours to finish a couple of  cold ones  and until someone 
will listen to other suggestions. at this time I think it is safer in 
Iraq. Lee


 On Sun, Jul 
18, 2010 at 01:55:18PM -0400, Bob Kennedy wrote:
> This was a problem on several models when they changed the filter.  
> 
> First question.  Do you get cold water through the dispenser?  
> 
> Some guys would change the filter and not purge the line which can cause an 
> air bubble.  
> 
> If the cold water runs through the door, then check to make sure there isn't 
> a separate line feeding the ice maker.  The valve may be closed at the back 
> of the fridge.
> Next, check  the arm on the ice maker.  If it is up, 90 degrees to the tray, 
> that is in the off position.  Flip it down and see if you hear water run.  
> 
> The water running isn't always instant after flipping the lever back down.  
> There is a timer in place and solenoids and all that fun stuff.
> 
> Check this and see if everything is as it should be.  
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Lee A. Stone 
>   To: Blind Handyman 
>   Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:29 PM
>   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years 
>   ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a 
>   new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough 
>   no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is 
>   from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced 
>   different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no 
>   longer being made and dropping down into the bin. 
>   any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> 
>   -- 
>   Charlie was a chemist,
>   But Charlie is no more.
>   For what he thought was H2O,
>   Was H2SO4.
> 
> 
>   
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Lee A. Stone]

Betsey, thre is like a metal wire loop which flips up or down  that  
if it is not touching ice cubes in the  bucket then the ice cube tray 
fills  with water and later dumps  until the same said ice bucket is 
full. This is one of those older Maytags a year or so ago you sent out 
the  warnings on . so today they are out shopping. holy mother of Mary 
the prices if you get a " go green"  new machine.  . . so  now we 
contact Sears as  she wants a real repairman  which will cost $120.00 to 
just show up.  I'll use  something else first.  just ranting. Lee


 On 
Sun, 
Jul 18, 2010 at 07:36:12AM -1000, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote:
> Aloha Lee,
> Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I 
> seem to remember that you could turn off the ice 
> maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they 
> installed the filter and forgot to turn it back 
> on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
> Things to consider, Betsy
> 
> At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
> >ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
> >new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
> >no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
> >from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
> >different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
> >longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
> >any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
> >
> >--
> >Charlie was a chemist,
> >But Charlie is no more.
> >For what he thought was H2O,
> >Was H2SO4.
> >
> 

-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?

[Lee A. Stone]

I cannot say on this list where I end up but  that is a darned good 
idea and I know the same  bed you are referring too. . way to go.  now 
get a patent on it. Lee


 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:43:15AM -0600, Cy 
Selfridge wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> We traded for a king size waterbed a couple of years ago. It was a softside
> type. It had 9 or so little tubes rather than the large bladder and al
> worked fairly well but I never did quite like the way it felt so, one day,
> we went to good old Wal-Mart and purchased 2 twin Ozark air mattresses and,
> WALLA, we now have an air bed which we cah each have the amount of firmness
> we desire. The two twins completely fill the king cavity and it is quite
> comfortable. "When you partner gets out of bed you do not feel anything
> unless you are over on your partner's space. (LOLLOLLOL)
> 
> Cy, The Anasazi
> 
>  
> 
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> good to see you back here Cy. Just found some other friends who 
> bough I think for $89 dollars a air mattress of heavier matterial 
> from Walmart. It is a temp deal as they want a whole new bed but what 
> they did was toss their queen sized mattress and just put this blow up 
> air mattress on their bed and so far so good. they are saving up for I 
> think the style Alan was talking about the kind you can adjust the 
> firmness at the touch of a button. anyway this $89 bed was in a local 
> Walmart and of all places the Sporting Goods area. Lee
> 
> On 
> Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 02:02:15PM -0600, Cy 
> Selfridge wrote:
> > Hey Alan,
> > 
> > I saw what appears to be an air bed such as these at Matress King for
> around
> > $500.
> > 
> > Cy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> 
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  ]
> > On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:07 PM
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I would take a look at the comfort select beds. They let each person
> select 
> > their own comfort number. My wife and I tried them out of all places, at 
> > Camping World for RVs and I liked my setting of 80. She liked her side at 
> > 89. The scale is 0 to 100 so the difference between our 2 comfort settings
> 
> > is about 10 percent. That's a huge difference but you can change your 
> > settings at any time depending on how your back feels at any given moment.
> 
> > There are 2 remotes. One for each side of the bed.
> > 
> > These beds are also in stores as well and go by several names. Comfort 
> > select, Air Select, Adjustable air comfort and others. These kinds of beds
> 
> > are everything the water bed never was. No hundreds of pounds of water to 
> > worry about or leaks etc. These beds have a blatter inside the mattress 
> > that is filled with air forced in by a small compressor. There are no
> lumpy 
> > spots. My concern was with an air blatter that there might be a hill or a 
> > valley depending on how much air was used. This was not the case however. 
> > At the time we saw these beds they sold for 3,000 bucks for a queen size
> but
> > 
> > we're talking for a motor home and around 2002. Sense then, quite a few 
> > companies make them for folks who could use better back support and the 
> > costs have come down. If you try one of these beds out, I can tell you, 
> > your going to want one at any price. That's what we're going to get for
> our 
> > next bed. But, you be the judge. Try it! you'll like it! 
> > 
> > Alan
> > 
> > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
> > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> > 
> > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> > available upon request.
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Claudia"   
> >  >
> > To: "Claudia"   
> >  >
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:18 PM
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Here is a question for you!
> > > We have been talking about a new bed for some time; we've had ours for 
> > > over 10 years now, and our backs are really starting to hurt.
> > > Tonight, we were offered a Quote Unquote "New king-size bed", for $50, 
> > > from the friend of a friend.
> > > I have a thing about used beds, so even though I was told that it's new,
> I
> > 
> > > don't trust that. I'm leery about sleeping in beds, particularly when
> you 
> > > don't know whose be

Re: [BlindHandyMan] another freezer question

[Bob Kennedy]

The first thing that comes to mind here is the temp in the fridge side.  Many 
models had a door or vent that opened and closed between the two sides.  This 
door would close too far when the fridge side was turned all the way up, 
directing most of the cold air to the fridge and not allowing enough to stay in 
the freezer.  

It's a place to start.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:36 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] another freezer question





  okay it is that time of year when we plug in a old side by side in 
  our shed . the refrigerator side seems to be fine but nothing is 
  freezing up on the freezer side. I usually fill what I call number 
  ten cans/ institutional sized cans I buy beans and other thngs. 
  normally i fill a few of those cans with water and within a day I 
  have frozen ice blocks . the machine is running now two days and the 
  water in the freezer is very cold but not a drop of ice. I do not want 
  to spend a dime on that old machine and would rather use it on its back 
  as a raised garden bed or a new home for night crawlers if it will not 
  work right. the other part of me thinks this old unit is burning up 
  way to much electric . however the other side of the family says" give 
  it a chance". again any suggestions beside a burial would be 
  appreciated. thanks Lee

  -- 
  Charlie was a chemist,
  But Charlie is no more.
  For what he thought was H2O,
  Was H2SO4.


  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Bob Kennedy]

This was a problem on several models when they changed the filter.  

First question.  Do you get cold water through the dispenser?  

Some guys would change the filter and not purge the line which can cause an air 
bubble.  

If the cold water runs through the door, then check to make sure there isn't a 
separate line feeding the ice maker.  The valve may be closed at the back of 
the fridge.
Next, check  the arm on the ice maker.  If it is up, 90 degrees to the tray, 
that is in the off position.  Flip it down and see if you hear water run.  

The water running isn't always instant after flipping the lever back down.  
There is a timer in place and solenoids and all that fun stuff.

Check this and see if everything is as it should be.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:29 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes





  We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years 
  ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a 
  new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough 
  no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is 
  from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced 
  different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no 
  longer being made and dropping down into the bin. 
  any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee

  -- 
  Charlie was a chemist,
  But Charlie is no more.
  For what he thought was H2O,
  Was H2SO4.


  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?

[Cy Selfridge]

Lee,

We traded for a king size waterbed a couple of years ago. It was a softside
type. It had 9 or so little tubes rather than the large bladder and al
worked fairly well but I never did quite like the way it felt so, one day,
we went to good old Wal-Mart and purchased 2 twin Ozark air mattresses and,
WALLA, we now have an air bed which we cah each have the amount of firmness
we desire. The two twins completely fill the king cavity and it is quite
comfortable. "When you partner gets out of bed you do not feel anything
unless you are over on your partner's space. (LOLLOLLOL)

Cy, The Anasazi

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:20 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?

 

  


good to see you back here Cy. Just found some other friends who 
bough I think for $89 dollars a air mattress of heavier matterial 
from Walmart. It is a temp deal as they want a whole new bed but what 
they did was toss their queen sized mattress and just put this blow up 
air mattress on their bed and so far so good. they are saving up for I 
think the style Alan was talking about the kind you can adjust the 
firmness at the touch of a button. anyway this $89 bed was in a local 
Walmart and of all places the Sporting Goods area. Lee

On 
Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 02:02:15PM -0600, Cy 
Selfridge wrote:
> Hey Alan,
> 
> I saw what appears to be an air bed such as these at Matress King for
around
> $500.
> 
> Cy
> 
> 
> 
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]
> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would take a look at the comfort select beds. They let each person
select 
> their own comfort number. My wife and I tried them out of all places, at 
> Camping World for RVs and I liked my setting of 80. She liked her side at 
> 89. The scale is 0 to 100 so the difference between our 2 comfort settings

> is about 10 percent. That's a huge difference but you can change your 
> settings at any time depending on how your back feels at any given moment.

> There are 2 remotes. One for each side of the bed.
> 
> These beds are also in stores as well and go by several names. Comfort 
> select, Air Select, Adjustable air comfort and others. These kinds of beds

> are everything the water bed never was. No hundreds of pounds of water to 
> worry about or leaks etc. These beds have a blatter inside the mattress 
> that is filled with air forced in by a small compressor. There are no
lumpy 
> spots. My concern was with an air blatter that there might be a hill or a 
> valley depending on how much air was used. This was not the case however. 
> At the time we saw these beds they sold for 3,000 bucks for a queen size
but
> 
> we're talking for a motor home and around 2002. Sense then, quite a few 
> companies make them for folks who could use better back support and the 
> costs have come down. If you try one of these beds out, I can tell you, 
> your going to want one at any price. That's what we're going to get for
our 
> next bed. But, you be the judge. Try it! you'll like it! 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> 
> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Claudia" mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> 
>  >
> To: "Claudia" mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> 
>  >
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:18 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Here is a question for you!
> > We have been talking about a new bed for some time; we've had ours for 
> > over 10 years now, and our backs are really starting to hurt.
> > Tonight, we were offered a Quote Unquote "New king-size bed", for $50, 
> > from the friend of a friend.
> > I have a thing about used beds, so even though I was told that it's new,
I
> 
> > don't trust that. I'm leery about sleeping in beds, particularly when
you 
> > don't know whose been sleeping in them before you.
> > We've been saving for it, so the money is there. What would you all do?
> > I turned it down and will continue to look at the store ads!
> >
> > Claudia
> >
> >
> > Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
 
>  
> > Skype: claudiadr10
> >
> >
> > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> > signature database 5273 (20100712) __
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

Aloha Lee,
Haven't had an ice maker for many years, but I 
seem to remember that you could turn off the ice 
maker. I wonder if they turned it off when they 
installed the filter and forgot to turn it back 
on, or if they turned off the water valve and didn't turn it back on.
Things to consider, Betsy

At 07:29 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>We own a big I think 22 or 24 cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years
>ago. all seemed to be fine until this week they replaced or installed a
>new water filter as apparently the light came on. okay oddly enough
>no othr changes were made except installing a new water filter which is
>from Sears and it just screws on. this type of filter has been replaced
>different times over the years but oddly enough the ice cubes are no
>longer being made and dropping down into the bin.
>any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. thanks Lee
>
>--
>Charlie was a chemist,
>But Charlie is no more.
>For what he thought was H2O,
>Was H2SO4.
>

[BlindHandyMan] No ice cubes

[Lee A. Stone]

We own a big I think 22 or 24  cubic inch Maytag sold by Sears years 
ago. all seemed to be fine until  this week they replaced or installed a 
new water filter as apparently the light came on.  okay  oddly enough  
no othr changes were  made except installing a new water filter which is  
from Sears and it just screws on.  this type of filter has been replaced   
different times over the years but oddly enough  the  ice cubes are no 
longer being made  and dropping down into the bin.  
any suggestions or thoughts  would be appreciated. thanks Lee



-- 
Charlie was a chemist,
But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?

[Lee A. Stone]

good to see you back here Cy.  Just found some other  friends who 
bough I think  for $89 dollars a  air mattress of heavier matterial 
from Walmart. It is a temp deal as they want a whole new bed but what 
they did was toss their queen sized mattress and just put this blow up 
air  mattress on their bed and so far so good. they are saving up for  I 
think the style Alan was talking about the kind you can adjust the  
firmness  at the touch of a button.  anyway this $89 bed was in a local  
Walmart  and of all places the Sporting Goods area. Lee


 On 
Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 02:02:15PM -0600, Cy 
Selfridge wrote:
> Hey Alan,
> 
> I saw what appears to be an air bed such as these at Matress King for around
> $500.
> 
> Cy
> 
>  
> 
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I would take a look at the comfort select beds. They let each person select 
> their own comfort number. My wife and I tried them out of all places, at 
> Camping World for RVs and I liked my setting of 80. She liked her side at 
> 89. The scale is 0 to 100 so the difference between our 2 comfort settings 
> is about 10 percent. That's a huge difference but you can change your 
> settings at any time depending on how your back feels at any given moment. 
> There are 2 remotes. One for each side of the bed.
> 
> These beds are also in stores as well and go by several names. Comfort 
> select, Air Select, Adjustable air comfort and others. These kinds of beds 
> are everything the water bed never was. No hundreds of pounds of water to 
> worry about or leaks etc. These beds have a blatter inside the mattress 
> that is filled with air forced in by a small compressor. There are no lumpy 
> spots. My concern was with an air blatter that there might be a hill or a 
> valley depending on how much air was used. This was not the case however. 
> At the time we saw these beds they sold for 3,000 bucks for a queen size but
> 
> we're talking for a motor home and around 2002. Sense then, quite a few 
> companies make them for folks who could use better back support and the 
> costs have come down. If you try one of these beds out, I can tell you, 
> your going to want one at any price. That's what we're going to get for our 
> next bed. But, you be the judge. Try it! you'll like it! 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> 
> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Claudia"   >
> To: "Claudia"   >
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:18 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New Bed?
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Here is a question for you!
> > We have been talking about a new bed for some time; we've had ours for 
> > over 10 years now, and our backs are really starting to hurt.
> > Tonight, we were offered a Quote Unquote "New king-size bed", for $50, 
> > from the friend of a friend.
> > I have a thing about used beds, so even though I was told that it's new, I
> 
> > don't trust that. I'm leery about sleeping in beds, particularly when you 
> > don't know whose been sleeping in them before you.
> > We've been saving for it, so the money is there. What would you all do?
> > I turned it down and will continue to look at the store ads!
> >
> > Claudia
> >
> >
> > Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
>  
> > Skype: claudiadr10
> >
> >
> > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> > signature database 5273 (20100712) __
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >
> > Send any questions regarding list management to:
> > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com
>  
> > To listen to the show archives go to link
> > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster
>  page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29>
> &PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29
> > Or
> > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
> >
> > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
> >
> > Visit the archives page at the following address
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/
> >
> > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man 
> > list just send a blank