Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Well, I'm having some trouble getting an even thickness, I'm putting too much in the center of the surface and not enough on the edges. I can tell this tactilely, so i'm going to slap a couple more coats on the thing before the examination by the sighted folks happens. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -Original Message- From: Dale Leavens[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/06 7:54:36 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish I am interested in this, I know how difficult it can be to keep brush strokes out of paint and varnish and I know how finger prints so easily get onto and into things, I find it difficult to see how you keep finger prints out of the finish when keeping brush marks out can be so difficult. My mother was constantly wiping my finger prints off of dry paint, prints I couldn't see. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Mickey Fixsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Bill, Congratulations!!! I'm sure that you noticed on coats after the first one, that you don't have to use as much finish and it can be rubbed out further. Btw, I use 400 grit sandpater between coats and be sure to make sure that everything is very clean before applying the next coat. Yes, you can use the same technique with paint. It will work fine with both alkyd based and latex paints and it doesn't matter on what type of gloss it has. I do use a brush with some painting, depending on what the job is. I use the hand technique on smaller projects like what you are working on or cabinets and such. For house painting, I use a brush. Keep us posted. - Original Message - From: William Stephan To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Well, taking Mickey's advice, I have so far put two coats of varnish on my tabletop. My wife was kind enough to pick the varnish and some paint thinner up for me at the lumber yard, and I'm not sure that it's garden variety varnish. The can says it's an antique finish. It is oil-based, and I was indeed able to feel the areas where there was too much or too little coverage. I have a reader/book-keeper with eyes scheduled to work on Tuesday evening, and i'll get him to evaluate my work after another coat and give you all a report as to how it looks. I'm curious though if the same techniques can be used with paint, and whether it matters if it's flat or gloss paint you're working with. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
I have to agree with Dale, After talking with many people about finishes, my sighted friends always complain about how difficult it is to get a perfect finish without brush strokes visible. The finishes feel fine, but you can see the marks. I find it hard to believe that finger painting a finish would have a good visible finish. I'm sure it feels perfectly smooth, that is a function of sanding and buffing, but I have my doubts as to the visible effect. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Well, if I can't get the technique right this way, I might try a thick coat of
finish, then putting a sheet of butcher paper over it and rolling it with a
very wide roller. This is something I've never tried before, so I'm more
interested in finding out what I can and can't do than actually creating a
piece of nice furniture. I mean, there's always contact paper {grin.
Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
I have to agree with Dale,
After talking with many people about finishes, my sighted friends always
complain about how difficult it is to get a perfect finish without brush
strokes visible. The finishes feel fine, but you can see the marks. I
find it hard to believe that finger painting a finish would have a good
visible finish. I'm sure it feels perfectly smooth, that is a function of
sanding and buffing, but I have my doubts as to the visible effect.
--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Bill, See, you can do it. You are learning. Like most anything, there is a learning curve and you get better as you go along I am proud of you for getting in there and doing it. You didn't listen to the sighted world's misconceptions and other blind people's doubts. Keep up the good work! -- Mickey - Original Message - From: William Stephan To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Well, I'm having some trouble getting an even thickness, I'm putting too much in the center of the surface and not enough on the edges. I can tell this tactilely, so i'm going to slap a couple more coats on the thing before the examination by the sighted folks happens. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -Original Message- From: Dale Leavens[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/06 7:54:36 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish I am interested in this, I know how difficult it can be to keep brush strokes out of paint and varnish and I know how finger prints so easily get onto and into things, I find it difficult to see how you keep finger prints out of the finish when keeping brush marks out can be so difficult. My mother was constantly wiping my finger prints off of dry paint, prints I couldn't see. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Mickey Fixsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Bill, Congratulations!!! I'm sure that you noticed on coats after the first one, that you don't have to use as much finish and it can be rubbed out further. Btw, I use 400 grit sandpater between coats and be sure to make sure that everything is very clean before applying the next coat. Yes, you can use the same technique with paint. It will work fine with both alkyd based and latex paints and it doesn't matter on what type of gloss it has. I do use a brush with some painting, depending on what the job is. I use the hand technique on smaller projects like what you are working on or cabinets and such. For house painting, I use a brush. Keep us posted. - Original Message - From: William Stephan To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Well, taking Mickey's advice, I have so far put two coats of varnish on my tabletop. My wife was kind enough to pick the varnish and some paint thinner up for me at the lumber yard, and I'm not sure that it's garden variety varnish. The can says it's an antique finish. It is oil-based, and I was indeed able to feel the areas where there was too much or too little coverage. I have a reader/book-keeper with eyes scheduled to work on Tuesday evening, and i'll get him to evaluate my work after another coat and give you all a report as to how it looks. I'm curious though if the same techniques can be used with paint, and whether it matters if it's flat or gloss paint you're working with. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Max, I have a feeling that is a common problem for us blind folk applying finish. We perceive the need to really get a good covering. It is one way to insure the entire surface gets coated, to apply lots and work back and forth and so on. It just is instinctively right. When it comes to finishing though, this isn't quite right. I understand from talking to spray painters that it is best to apply very thin coats, this keeps the paint or lacquer from accumulating and forming drips and runs and the solvents can evaporate much more quickly resulting in a much shorter open time, no surface tension or skin to hold the solvents so the finish sets up harder and with a shorter cure time, less opportunity for specks of dust and fly sh*t to stick in it. The other thing is that a thick finish is also more likely to chip and crack. Because eyes can see that the surface is covered or the colour or shine or what ever is consistent they can stop at the desired effect. I have and still continue to apply finishes to many projects and I still tend to apply way too much finish although I am getting slowly better. In the end I buff and rub and grind off a lot between coats which uses up a lot of time and material but the outcome is usually pretty good. It could be more efficiently achieved but it is as good as I can do. I like the foam brushes for paint too and they have the advantage of disposability but I do use a lot getting the finish as I want. I like the little disposable rollers for applying contact cement and working with fiberglass resin. Those were tips given to me by a sighted chap, it makes laying that sticky stuff down a lot easier. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish this is one reason that I've had luck with paddle, or sponge brushes. I've been told that sighted folks can get it really really right. but most would rather spray and put hardly a coat on it though it looks just fine. (too fine, or thin if you ask me) On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Dan Rossi wrote: I have to agree with Dale, After talking with many people about finishes, my sighted friends always complain about how difficult it is to get a perfect finish without brush strokes visible. The finishes feel fine, but you can see the marks. I find it hard to believe that finger painting a finish would have a good visible finish. I'm sure it feels perfectly smooth, that is a function of sanding and buffing, but I have my doubts as to the visible effect. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
the trays into two rows and supports the inner edges I made of three quarters material so there would be enough meet for the grooves the trays slide in. I fitted it into the top with a sliding dovetail cut with my little router table, a tool I don't know how I ever did without. There are no fasteners except a few brads which hold a thin plywood bottom into rabbets and the screws which hold the rubber feet to that, none on the upper visible surface. The finish is just a coat of Danish oil which is just about clear but adds a little orange and easily rubbed on by a blind person. You can work it pretty hard and long which is another reason I like to use it. I often will also use just boiled linseed oil for a coat or two with light sanding between, again it doesn't do much for the colour but seems to bring the grain out or so I am told and it goes a long way toward sealing the wood and keeping the grain from lifting as you begin the clear coat finish. The girls seem to really like the device, the computer is standing on it's end in the corner, they never really even turn it off but they do occasionally proof CDs of MRI images they burn so have to access it for that. The half a dozen coats of hand-wiped poly smoothed and buffed is about indestructible. I believe the finish to be good but I distrust the comments just a little, I suspect part of their pleasure is in the fact that someone took some interest in their problem and this helps them feel valued getting back to my original point though, as you gain experience and confidence and of course skills you will find that your capabilities become limited by your tools and resources so you will acquire more of those which will result in better and more refined and more sophisticated design and therefore better looking and better designed projects. Along the way you will produce a lot of sawdust and a fairly decent pile of rubbish. Once you get the bug though it is very challenging and stimulating and can ultimately be very rewarding. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Dale. I'm taking all of this in because I'm still working on, well planning, my radio desk. If I can make something that looks really good, Sue will let me make an entertainment center for a wide screen TV she is looking at in a local high fi store. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Max, I have a feeling that is a common problem for us blind folk applying finish. We perceive the need to really get a good covering. It is one way to insure the entire surface gets coated, to apply lots and work back and forth and so on. It just is instinctively right. When it comes to finishing though, this isn't quite right. I understand from talking to spray painters that it is best to apply very thin coats, this keeps the paint or lacquer from accumulating and forming drips and runs and the solvents can evaporate much more quickly resulting in a much shorter open time, no surface tension or skin to hold the solvents so the finish sets up harder and with a shorter cure time, less opportunity for specks of dust and fly sh*t to stick in it. The other thing is that a thick finish is also more likely to chip and crack. Because eyes can see that the surface is covered or the colour or shine or what ever is consistent they can stop at the desired effect. I have and still continue to apply finishes to many projects and I still tend to apply way too much finish although I am getting slowly better. In the end I buff and rub and grind off a lot between coats which uses up a lot of time and material but the outcome is usually pretty good. It could be more efficiently achieved but it is as good as I can do. I like the foam brushes for paint too and they have the advantage of disposability but I do use a lot getting the finish as I want. I like the little disposable rollers for applying contact cement and working with fiberglass resin. Those were tips given to me by a sighted chap, it makes laying that sticky stuff down a lot easier. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL
[BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Well, taking Mickey's advice, I have so far put two coats of varnish on my tabletop. My wife was kind enough to pick the varnish and some paint thinner up for me at the lumber yard, and I'm not sure that it's garden variety varnish. The can says it's an antique finish. It is oil-based, and I was indeed able to feel the areas where there was too much or too little coverage. I have a reader/book-keeper with eyes scheduled to work on Tuesday evening, and i'll get him to evaluate my work after another coat and give you all a report as to how it looks. I'm curious though if the same techniques can be used with paint, and whether it matters if it's flat or gloss paint you're working with. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
Bill, Congratulations!!! I'm sure that you noticed on coats after the first one, that you don't have to use as much finish and it can be rubbed out further. Btw, I use 400 grit sandpater between coats and be sure to make sure that everything is very clean before applying the next coat. Yes, you can use the same technique with paint. It will work fine with both alkyd based and latex paints and it doesn't matter on what type of gloss it has. I do use a brush with some painting, depending on what the job is. I use the hand technique on smaller projects like what you are working on or cabinets and such. For house painting, I use a brush. Keep us posted. - Original Message - From: William Stephan To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Well, taking Mickey's advice, I have so far put two coats of varnish on my tabletop. My wife was kind enough to pick the varnish and some paint thinner up for me at the lumber yard, and I'm not sure that it's garden variety varnish. The can says it's an antique finish. It is oil-based, and I was indeed able to feel the areas where there was too much or too little coverage. I have a reader/book-keeper with eyes scheduled to work on Tuesday evening, and i'll get him to evaluate my work after another coat and give you all a report as to how it looks. I'm curious though if the same techniques can be used with paint, and whether it matters if it's flat or gloss paint you're working with. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish
I am interested in this, I know how difficult it can be to keep brush strokes out of paint and varnish and I know how finger prints so easily get onto and into things, I find it difficult to see how you keep finger prints out of the finish when keeping brush marks out can be so difficult. My mother was constantly wiping my finger prints off of dry paint, prints I couldn't see. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Mickey Fixsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Bill, Congratulations!!! I'm sure that you noticed on coats after the first one, that you don't have to use as much finish and it can be rubbed out further. Btw, I use 400 grit sandpater between coats and be sure to make sure that everything is very clean before applying the next coat. Yes, you can use the same technique with paint. It will work fine with both alkyd based and latex paints and it doesn't matter on what type of gloss it has. I do use a brush with some painting, depending on what the job is. I use the hand technique on smaller projects like what you are working on or cabinets and such. For house painting, I use a brush. Keep us posted. - Original Message - From: William Stephan To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in Varnish Well, taking Mickey's advice, I have so far put two coats of varnish on my tabletop. My wife was kind enough to pick the varnish and some paint thinner up for me at the lumber yard, and I'm not sure that it's garden variety varnish. The can says it's an antique finish. It is oil-based, and I was indeed able to feel the areas where there was too much or too little coverage. I have a reader/book-keeper with eyes scheduled to work on Tuesday evening, and i'll get him to evaluate my work after another coat and give you all a report as to how it looks. I'm curious though if the same techniques can be used with paint, and whether it matters if it's flat or gloss paint you're working with. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use
