[BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread Tom Hodges
I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?

 

Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
miter saw, I have the following problems.

 

First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
of the board.  So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.

Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.

Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut.  After the cut I pull
the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement.  Again, I have to
work fast or the thing will turn off again.

 

Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic.  Since I've never
used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
applications.  Can anyone out there advise me on this

 

Thanks, Tom Hodges?



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread Lenny McHugh
Tom,
I do not believe that the click rule or the rotomatic will be long enough. 
Try and make a story stick. Basically the story stick is two pieces of wood 
each longer than half the total distance that you want to measure. Then you 
slide each stick to the walls for the baseboard length. then you clamp the 
two sticks together. Now you have the correct length to transfer to your 
saw.
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From: "Tom Hodges" 
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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:03 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic


I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?



Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
miter saw, I have the following problems.



First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
of the board.  So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.

Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.

Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut.  After the cut I pull
the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement.  Again, I have to
work fast or the thing will turn off again.



Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic.  Since I've never
used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
applications.  Can anyone out there advise me on this



Thanks, Tom Hodges?



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread Ron Yearns
OK I have and uise a click rule for stuff 4 feet and under and even at that it 
gets a little cumbersume to handle.  If you are cutting trim to go between two 
walls two strips of board that will span the  distance and overlap so you can 
clamp them together with a couple of c clamps works best for longer pieces.  
Even with the click rule I use the distance between the two ends rather than 
use it as a real measuring tool.  The idea is to put the rule or the boards 
into the space with the tightness of fit you want and then saw it the exact 
same length.  Who cares how many inches as long as it fits?
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:03 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic


I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
  Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
  length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?

  Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
  miter saw, I have the following problems.

  First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
  of the board. So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
  into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.

  Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
  pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.

  Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
  my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut. After the cut I pull
  the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement. Again, I have to
  work fast or the thing will turn off again.

  Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
  have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic. Since I've never
  used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
  applications. Can anyone out there advise me on this

  Thanks, Tom Hodges?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread john schwery
I know that with the rotomatic, you can buy as many extensions as you 
want, so it would be long enough.
earlier, Lenny McHugh, wrote:
>
>
>Tom,
>I do not believe that the click rule or the rotomatic will be long enough.
>Try and make a story stick. Basically the story stick is two pieces of wood
>each longer than half the total distance that you want to measure. Then you
>slide each stick to the walls for the baseboard length. then you clamp the
>two sticks together. Now you have the correct length to transfer to your
>saw.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Tom Hodges" <<mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net>tomhod...@fuse.net>
>To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:03 AM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic
>
>I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
>Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
>length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?
>
>Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
>miter saw, I have the following problems.
>
>First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
>of the board. So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
>into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.
>
>Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
>pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.
>
>Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
>my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut. After the cut I pull
>the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement. Again, I have to
>work fast or the thing will turn off again.
>
>Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
>have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic. Since I've never
>used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
>applications. Can anyone out there advise me on this
>
>Thanks, Tom Hodges?
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread Terry Klarich
Just make yourself some story sticks.  Often the less techniqual the better.

Terry

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:03:33 -0400you write:
>
>I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
>Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
>length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?
>
> 
>
>Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
>miter saw, I have the following problems.
>
> 
>
>First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
>of the board.  So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
>into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.
>
>Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
>pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.
>
>Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
>my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut.  After the cut I pull
>the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement.  Again, I have to
>work fast or the thing will turn off again.
>
> 
>
>Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
>have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic.  Since I've never
>used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
>applications.  Can anyone out there advise me on this
>
> 
>
>Thanks, Tom Hodges?


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic

2009-10-23 Thread Dale Leavens
Personally I have trouble measuring and cutting miters precisely and generally 
have to go a little long then sneak up on them.

Because there usually isn't enough length on the Rotomatic, my weapon of 
preference I often cut a 45 on the end of a suitable length or more of the 
material then using that and the Rotomatic to make up the length I can then use 
that to set the saw distance more exactly. Just lay the piece on the stock to 
be cut and measure from the but end to the end of the stock. The saw can then 
easily be lined up along the cut.

A tape is really difficult to use which is probably why sighted people use a 
sharp pencil line.

Many also use a conventional tape measure with a good lock, lock the distance 
in then take that to the saw. I sided this two story house exactly that way 
several years ago. Never knew the actual length of any of it just the spanned 
distance using a locking tape measure. For long cuts it meant bolding the tape 
gently over and some care not to permit the lock to slip and several times I 
had to renew the measure because I lost the lock.

Hope these are useful suggestions.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:03 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Click Ruler versus Rotomatic


I'm getting ready to put in some baseboards and some interior door casings.
  Can anyone recommend which of the above would work best for measuring the
  length needed and then measuring the wood for the miter saw cut?

  Previously when I used my talking tape for measuring the board to cut on my
  miter saw, I have the following problems.

  First of all the metal tab on the end of the tape won't hold around the edge
  of the board. So, I have to hold the dumb end down by sticking a push pin
  into the first perforated hole in the tape to hold it down.

  Bear in mind, if I don't work fast the talking tape turns off and I have to
  pull the pin and reset the tape and start over.

  Secondly, I run the tape down the board to the correct measurement, against
  my saw blade, then badk the tape off and make my cut. After the cut I pull
  the tape to the end of the board to check my measurement. Again, I have to
  work fast or the thing will turn off again.

  Anyway, all this stuff is ridiculous, so, I was wondering whether I would
  have better luck using a click ruler or the rotomatic. Since I've never
  used either of them, I don't know which one might work the best for these
  applications. Can anyone out there advise me on this

  Thanks, Tom Hodges?

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